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The Miura project begins by Archie
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Report this Post12-08-2007 07:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
Some of you may recall the Miura project we were getting ready to start on my What's Up At Archie's thread.

Well here it begins.

We got this body in a few weeks ago to build for a customer who also monitors this forum.

This will be a long term project & we'll keep you up to speed as we go.

Here is a link to what was posted in the other thread https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...024804-52.html#p2059

Here is what the donor car looked like Friday morning.....



By the end of the day, it looked like this



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This is going to be good!
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What drivetrain is the new owner going with?
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Originally posted by Doc John:

What drivetrain is the new owner going with?


Right now the plan is for an LS1 6 speed.

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Report this Post12-08-2007 10:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
Sweet project, definately new. What rims are those? I love the look on the fastback.
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I wanna' watch this! The Lambo Miura was one of the prettiest cars ever built. The last I heard was Jay Leno has two of 'em. I'm going to guess that a frame stretch will be in order, but this stretch will probably be at the front end. Hmmm ... just reposition the front crossmember?
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Report this Post12-08-2007 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mnstrfieroSend a Private Message to mnstrfieroDirect Link to This Post
the wheels that the fiero has are most likely "drag DR-14's" the DR-14 doesn't stang for 14" rims, that's just the style. i actually like the line of wheels that Drag carries. They can be purchased at tires.com

if you take the time, you can also see that in a wheel search with 5x100 being the bolt pattern, and 17", Drag has a lot of cost effective and attractive wheels. They even have a mesh gold with a polished lip (looks like the HP evo wheels). at only $105 a piece!

these might also be Axis wheels, but those are much more expensive, and axis also has several different widths of wheel to choose from much like FieroTaz's car (the wide body chop top, primer black).
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the miura, to me at least is among the most beautifully styled cars ever produced. both aggressive and elegant.

its sexy.

i'll be watching this one closely.
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The body looks like it was molded for another car - maybe a VW ? To get that to fit, you're gonna have to be 1/2 designer, 1/2 engineer and 1/2 magician . You're gonna have people begging for kits of this one Archie (maybe me included) .... BIG thanks for the thread .....

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Archie check your PM.
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This is going to be great.

If this is the body shell I think it is, are you going to modify it to exact Miura proportions, or leave it the way it is?
(IIRC if I'm thinking of the same kit, it is a bit shrunken with some proportions changed to fit the European donor car (don't remember what the original donor car was at the moment) )

lots of pics requested

This is going to be such a gorgeous car when it's done, I can tell..

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Report this Post12-11-2007 10:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
We spent the day cutting up the Fiero chassis & doing a simple trial fit of the body to get a general idea of how we are going to mount it.







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Report this Post12-12-2007 07:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
OK - i already decided i want one

The parallel designs website has the answer to "what car was it originally made for" ? It was made for "a semi-spaceframe structure constructed from 16 gauge mild steel square tube of varying dimensions."




From the other thread: http://www.paralleldesigns.co.uk/indexframe.html

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Wow, the fit is actually relatively close from what I can see, still alot of work though. I will be watching this one.
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Report this Post12-12-2007 06:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
After looking at that frame set-up, I'm thinking that building on a functional fiero like Archie's doing is THE way to go with the project. i can't imagine trying to even complete the interior on the frame set-up. How the heck would you put in the A/C heater box, defrosters, ducting, etc. let alone pedal assemblies, etc., etc. What would you do for doors and working windows ?

Looking at the side view, the car looks WELL proportioned. Unlike a lot of kits mounted on a fiero (my corson included), it doesn't look too short in the section from the doors rearward. I think my corson would have looked a LOT better with a 7- inch stretch.

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Report this Post12-18-2007 12:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
Time to stretch the wheelbase a little.







Measure twice, cut once.







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We got a long way to go but just sitting the body on the chassis, it looks pretty good.











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Bravo!

Watching closely since hour one of this thread. Cant wait to see it on the road. Way to go Archie!

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How does the windshield work? Is it still the stock fiero windshield?
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Report this Post12-18-2007 12:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Chris Hodson:

How does the windshield work? Is it still the stock fiero windshield?


This body uses the original Miura windshield. They are very rare, the customer found one in Houston & it's going to be on the way.

They are very expensive when you can find one.

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Originally posted by Archie:

Measure twice, cut once.




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until I realised this piece was from another donor car, I was thinking "what the F@#$". don't scare me like that Archie. Or maybe it WAS the actual project car and now he's begging for forgivness???
Looks cool so far.

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Wow, I like how the windshield is pushed back, I was wondering how this was going to be accomplished. Your the man Archie...

Did the customer decide on the final color yet?

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Report this Post12-18-2007 03:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
We extended the front wheelbase by some 5".

We did that by cutting off the original frame horns on the build car & cutting off the frame horns on a donor front end (5" longer) & then welding it all back together with reinforcement etc.

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until I realised this piece was from another donor car, I was thinking "what the F@#$". don't scare me like that Archie. Or maybe it WAS the actual project car and now he's begging for forgivness???
Looks cool so far.

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Are all the dimensions on the kit accurate?
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Report this Post12-18-2007 08:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
The dimensions look close. Since it was designed to fit on a totally custom frame I would assume its 100% exact in dimensions. Looking great, can't wait to see more. Does the guy want to sell those Drag wheels?
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Archie
Thanks for posting the pics, the car is looking great

The one thing I am wondering is how are you going to get the correct ride hight.
By looking at the pics, it almost seams like if the body has to be "chaneled" on the frame...
I am just wondering... then I thougth I guess the car has to have all the weight on it..
I am really looking forward to this build.

Keep up the good work
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Report this Post12-18-2007 09:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
I think I see a coil over in the back.... You gotta remember with no fluids, no motor, no glass, no trans, stock wheels, no interior, and a somewhat stock suspension, yeah its sitting high. You add back that 1,000lbs+ yeah, it'll come down. Tweak the suspension, get the right wheel and tire package and it'll look right.
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Awesome! I've always love the Miura. Beautiful car. Simply beautiful!
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Report this Post12-19-2007 03:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HCClick Here to visit HC's HomePageSend a Private Message to HCDirect Link to This Post
I can't wait to see what you guys are gonna do to the headlamp motors... Lambo OEM?

(Edit: 100th post!)

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Originally posted by HC:

I can't wait to see what you guys are gonna do to the headlamp motors... Lambo OEM?

(Edit: 100th post!)



Its a really easy job, lambo miura lights are fixed...

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Report this Post12-20-2007 12:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
Actually the headlights do pivot up a little bit.





You can see the actuator motor on this page http://www.huskyclub.com/tavheadlights.html

I don't pretend to be an expert on the Miura. The customer is my expert on the car & we're going to try to make it as accurate as we can.

Right now the plan is to use 928 lights.

Archie

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Report this Post12-20-2007 12:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JimmySClick Here to visit JimmyS's HomePageSend a Private Message to JimmySDirect Link to This Post
This is going to be good!. I will be watching this build for sure.
I spy Front Coilovers on the Fiero. Where might someone find those for sale?

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https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-1-061575.html <~ The drama with kitcarman
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/078336.html <~ finishing and fixing kitcarmans mess
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/079860.html <~ re-do after kitcarmans motor blew up.

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Tony Montana's car? Hehe.

"Bulletproof this, and this right here, and get me one of them scramblers."


The Porsche's pop out more though.

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hunh, well I had never seen them swivel up like that, I even googled around before I commented. Sorry to whoever I corrected.
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No biggie!

Any more eye candy?
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Oh great, I can't wait to see this progress.

I've been wanting to see a Miura project ever since Bubba mentioned doing one in his build thread. I never thought about one before then, and I've always loved the Miura.
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This is one bad @ss project, and I just thought about the Jota version of this lambo its just insane...Also the one that was at display at the Detroit auto show last year is one nice looking car too, but just keep in mind that this is a car that even in the vintage look from the factory trim still shows well, and yet the other versions are none the less doable and beautiful!

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I love that design but the headlights always struck me as a bit odd. i think it would look a LOT better with headlights into fenders like these:

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Here's a guy who has the Miura Eyelashes, rear lights and lenses,front screen,and a complete set of wheels for sale.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C26686?pt=pf

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