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What's the Best Way to Clean Valves, Without Pulling the Heads? by Blacktree
Started on: 03-21-2009 07:20 PM
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Report this Post03-21-2009 07:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
While I was replacing the cam in my 2.8, I noticed that the valve stems (on the intake valves) had some gunk buildup on them. I'd like to get rid of the gunk, but don't want to pull the heads. Do you think spraying Seafoam in the intake (while the engine is running) will clean it off?

I know that Seafoam (and water) work for cleaning the combustion chambers, but am unsure about the valve stems.
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Report this Post03-21-2009 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hklvetteSend a Private Message to hklvetteDirect Link to This Post
seafoam will work on the intakes, but not exhaust.
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Report this Post03-21-2009 07:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jetmanClick Here to visit jetman's HomePageSend a Private Message to jetmanDirect Link to This Post
Seafoam will decarbon the valves, you can also run some in the gas and a tiny bit (follow directions) in the oil. I really prefer Rislone in the oil crankcase, that really works well over the long term.
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Report this Post03-21-2009 09:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for carnut122Send a Private Message to carnut122Direct Link to This Post
I'll third the Seafoam!
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Report this Post03-22-2009 09:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for thefredmanSend a Private Message to thefredmanDirect Link to This Post
Supposedly Shell gasoline works really well. I always run shell fuel in my 4 cyl. Never tried the BP w/invigorate.
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Report this Post03-22-2009 11:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pmbrunelleSend a Private Message to pmbrunelleDirect Link to This Post
How about a PCV catch can, to keep it clean in the future?
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Report this Post03-22-2009 11:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Nebiros88Click Here to visit Nebiros88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Nebiros88Direct Link to This Post
At the dealership, we use a full line of BG products. Very good product, works great and can boost fuel economy if your rail or injectors are clogging up.

http://www.bgprod.com/products/fuelair.html

I have a box of 44k in my garage, and several cans of cf5.
We also use the GM top engine cleaner, good stuff as well.
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Report this Post03-22-2009 01:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for User00013170Send a Private Message to User00013170Direct Link to This Post
I've done seafoam a couple of times in the intake while running ( used the vacuum port on the side of the plenum and a spare piece of hose to suck it out of the can )

I honestly never noticed a difference, but did smoke up the neighborhood pretty good.

EDIT: Oh, i do run a can in the tank on a regular basis.

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Report this Post03-23-2009 09:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
tough to say - I too use Seafoam thru the intake. I use Techron in the fuel.
having actually pulled heads, and manually cleaned valves - I have a hard time imagining ANY additive could do anything.
but, I also cant create the heat which is present in a running engine.
and, being I see junk near the tailpipe after a seafoam session - I know it does something.
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Report this Post03-23-2009 10:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for whodeanieClick Here to visit whodeanie's HomePageSend a Private Message to whodeanieDirect Link to This Post
seafoam works the best after that I would say to keep them clean I use Zmax
and high octain gas. I have torn down race motors after using Zmax in them and this stuf works
the motors are clean.
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Report this Post03-23-2009 11:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Silentassassin185Send a Private Message to Silentassassin185Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by whodeanie:

seafoam works the best after that I would say to keep them clean I use Zmax
and high octain gas. I have torn down race motors after using Zmax in them and this stuf works
the motors are clean.


No offense but I wouldnt run Zmax in anything I own.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm
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Originally posted by pmbrunelle: How about a PCV catch can, to keep it clean in the future?

That's a good idea.

edit to add: There's a trail of dark brown residue starting at the PCV vacuum fitting and leading down the intake ports to the heads. So guess which vacuum port the cleaner is going into... hehe.

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Originally posted by User00013170:
I've done seafoam a couple of times in the intake while running ( used the vacuum port on the side of the plenum and a spare piece of hose to suck it out of the can )


someone got a pic of this vacuum port, that i'm too stupid to figure out.

thanks...
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Report this Post03-24-2009 12:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sardonyx247Click Here to visit sardonyx247's HomePageSend a Private Message to sardonyx247Direct Link to This Post
GM Top Engine Cleaner!
It is worth its weight in gold.

Second choice is the seafoam.


BTW the smoke it spits out is all the carbon being burned out.

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Report this Post03-24-2009 03:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tayneSend a Private Message to tayneDirect Link to This Post
any issues with seals and gaskets?
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Originally posted by tayne:

any issues with seals and gaskets?


Not that I have ever had, Top engine cleaner is the s**t
Just follow the directions on the can, suck up till about 1/3 of the can left then dump it all in to choke the engine so it stalls,or kill it if it doesnt.
Let it sit 15 mins, and then start it up. BTW make sure you are outside. It will blow thick smoke for a bit till it is all cleaned out. Probably best to change the oil after incase any seeps past the rings.

BTW just FYI, doing this will get rid of the "tick" in DSM motors

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to add, after you start it up, now is a Great time to look for exhaust leaks as you can see the smoke blowing out any leaks.

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