BUMP!

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'86 Fiero GT

www.KylesFiero.tk
www.XoticRydz.tk

How bout' another bump?

For those that might not have seen an update of a few days ago, we're still waiting for the darn flanges. We were also told that some, maybe the TB flanges, went to the wrong place and are being rerouted......... Anyway everything is still a go with the project. We have too much money invested now to change our minds, not that we want to. I want one of them more than most of you. Hang in there people.

on a stock 2.8, what kind of power increases are we talkin about...

pics, pics , please..........................

Pics pics pics? Of what, we didn't make it yet. We're still in the designing stages and waiting for parts. We'll post them when we have something to show. As for power gains, can't really say until we get one built and on a dyno. I can say this, it will be worth it, or as some like to say, 'quite cost effective' especially for those with other engine mods. We got the monster MR2 running again out of the way today and just need for the parts to arive to start on the manifolds.

im sorry if i missed it, but do u have an approximate price range for the new intake. i may be interested depending on how much it is.

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hi i meant when you had them done .......not meaning to rush you

Since I am currently running a 3.4L, I too want to be on the list! I am extremely interested!

Steve

Well, we picked up two of the three types of flanges we've been waiting for today. We had to go the Richmond since they sent them to the wrong city. Anyway the last one should be in next week and then we can start on the prototype.

I may also be interested in a purchase, depending on cost. But judging on what you did with the mr2's it will probably be a great product and worth every penny. Also, thanks for the updates.

Put me on your "interested list".

Is there any guess yet on the price? Also if someone (like me) had a bored out TB and intake plenum, are those going to be useful in the new setup?

Thanks,
Steve

Don't want to guess yet on a price just yet, sorry. As for your TB, it would help some but also require us or you (cheeper if you do it) to enlarge the TB flange opening to match. If you had a stock TB made bigger it won't take much to open up the flange some since they could not have made yours much bigger. If everything works out, we'll be doing special orders for larger TB. And that's a no-go for your plenium, we're designing completly new one with better runners.

Sign me up! I already have ported heads and lower plennum, all I need is a better intake.

Hell ya! Im DEFINETLY interested. Anything would be better than the current setup we're all stuck with. Good luck with the project and keep us posted.
-Chris

Put me on the interested list, also.

Want your thoughts on this; we are trying to use the stock fuel rail setup to keep cost down. Thus far (from drawings) it looks like we can and keep the manifold a one piece unit. However, if we cannot, we can go one of two routs:

1st make a new custom fuel rail setup, which would add to the cost

2nd make the manifold a 2 piece deal. If we do the 2 piece thing, we may use short hose/claps to connect them. More flanges would drive up the cost a lot and probably not flow any better or worse than the hose setup. Yes it would look like a custom race manifold that way, but it would keep the cost down and not affect performance.

So, how many of you people would rather spend more (don’t how much yet, but let’s say $100 for now) for a one piece with custom fuel rails versa the 2 piece? Vote for either 1 or 2

*2*

Besides the lower cost, the two-piece manifold with connecting hoses/clamps would have a nice industrial look. It would probably be easier to clean, too.

[This message has been edited by Blacktree (edited 07-07-2004).]

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: *2* Besides the lower cost, the two-piece manifold with connecting hoses/clamps would have a nice industrial look. It would probably be easier to clean, too.

I'd be interested also in the lower cost setup.

I'm thinking two-piece as well.

2

LOWER COST, LOWER COST, LOWER COST. I'm just as cheap as the next guy . any idea when the test dumy will be up and runnin?????

2 piece, so long as performance isnt compromised.

2

2 for cost.

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1986 Pontiac Fiero GT
Auto, soon to be 5 spd Getrag from 88 z24, Best 1/4 = 16.1 at 83mph, mods, wires, CRX intake, and power pulley. Planning Turbo 2.8 swap for a little more umph!!!!

Bought for 2500$ Canadian.

quote Originally posted by P.O.L. Mafia: LOWER COST, LOWER COST, LOWER COST. I'm just as cheap as the next guy . any idea when the test dumy will be up and runnin?????

my test dummy is running.... just with a stock intake :P he has to build the intake before i drive the 6 or so hours to have it tested.

matthew

I like the Idea of 1, but I'd have to go with 2, I'm a cheap type of guy also

Thanks people and keep the input coming.
Matt, don't want you up here until were ready to put it on your car at the dyno.
For those that might not know what what I mean by hoses/clamps, I think we still have some pics of my 124 Fiat spider on the trueleo.com site. It has 4 Mikuni carbs on a ram manifold we made an uses hose/clamps. It also has an Electromotive Tec I distributorless ign, headers and other goodies and I doubt if there's another Fiat spider anyway in the world with that setup! Hope you can see the manifold good enough.
And we are still waiting for the last of the damn flanges!

Been thinking about this a bit more (I know, that's a dangerous thing ) and need to throw out this question...

I believed you mentioned looking forward to installing this on your 2.8 turbo. Why's this a good idea for a forced induction engine? If my limit for boost is the amount of hp my block can survive, then why would this be any different than simply cranking up the psi a notch or two? Kind of simple thinking, but both methods just put more in the cylinder for combustion.

It's one of those ' because I can' things. I know I could simply up the boast and get more power, but that wouldn't 'look' half as cool.
Really, we want a turbo test mule beside an NA engine to compare with on the dyno. Besides it can't hurt when I'm not in boost. The manifold will fit other engines with more potential than my 2.8 and I suspect some those guys would like to see what it will do for a turbo setup. In addition to a dyno run with the new manifold and my turbo functioning, I'm going to do a dyno run with my turbo disabled (the inlet tube to the TB off) to see what gains we get from a modfied engine and then compare the results with what I had with my stock manifold. The turbo will confuse the results some even off, as it will restrick the exhaust some, but I think we'll still get usefull data. Besides, I'm sure we'll get lots of 'but what will it do for my turbo setup?' questions if we don't. Then again, I do like rad looking engines as you may have seen with my spider.

I am gonna have to be a follower here and go with # 2 as well. However, if it comes down to having to develop a new rail, i would still be very interested.
-Chris

*kicks shipment companies* come on guys! get these flanges moving! and i thought postponing a delivery for one month was bad, i'm sure it's worth when you have so many people looking forward to seeing what ur doing. I'm saving my money now Hopefully I'll have enough to get ur intake when it gets out of the prototype stage. good luck and god speed with those flanges!

i vote for two... mainly due to lower cost and the fact that i like that race part look... plus its CHEAPER!!!

so whats the status on the manifold now???

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'86 Fiero GT

www.KylesFiero.tk www.XoticRydz.tk

bump. mainly to get your attention and ask a question that will be in the general section. don't want to muck up the thread.

I would also go with the "flow" (pun intended) and say 2, but if it came down to it, either would work.

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We got more stuff today and are only waiting for those big and exspensive flanges. We are bugging the suplier. As for 'having so many people interested' and so fourth, that we should have ordered them made as soon as posiable, we ent GM, and don't have the funds to simple blow thousands of dallors because a lot of people MIGHT want to buy them! We're sticking our necks (read that wallets) pretty far as is, what with committing to something like 25 units, lots of dyno time and no 'firm orders' and you can read that as, "we haven't ask anyone to put so much as a dime down." This is difficult to write, cause I just want to.... ##$$^&* scream. That said, I feel a little better, anyway, what with the voting thus far heavy towards 'keeping it afordable' I think we made the right call on those exspensive flanges. When we make and evaluate the prototype, things will be diffrent, we'll have the orders and the checks to gear up for a big run accordingly. Have to get past the R&D first. We'd like thank most everyone else for hanging in there and waiting.

I am interested, and I vote for "2", I really like that industrial look.