What's a DOD

Are you talking about this black connector under the dash near the accelerator behind the radio ?



So if I understand correctly, I will need to find in a cruise donor car the "jumper harness" and plug it at this black connectors and plug it at the switch and module also.

Is that correct?

Department of Defense. They are very sensitive to folks using the internet for non-duty related stuff.

yeap that is the little bugger you need to plug into

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Oh yeah...now I think that all the pieces of the puzzle are now togeter.

Now I will add the "jumper" wiring harness in the shopping list.

Hope not other surprise will arise.

Thanks.

Another conversion guide on the way

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Thanks Perry
Yep I didn't grab #20 the servo and as I mentioned the wiring.
I think I even have all the switches that attach to the brake.
Jim

Well I'm home now time for some factory scans that i have

here we have the simple brake down of the cruise control system


here is the manuals location of the wiring





here is the start of the taillight harness

in the passenger rear fender well (best to remove both halves of the fender well) there is a feed through for the rear engine fan, the one that tries to cool the alternator and coil. just forward of that is a ground wire mounted to the frame, sorry but couldn't get the camera in much further from under the car


since i don't have pics of the harness with the bumper remove we skip from the fan to the drivers side where the harness comes back into the engine bay


here you see that you will have to remove the evap canistor to route the harness

here is how the harness routes from the other side of the evap can

here is how the servo, vac can and the brake solenoid are installed, not that the harness for the solenoid routes over the mount

here is a top view, as you can see the trunk light wires run to a grommet on the left of the servo. you will have to knock out the plastic plug to install


i have more in the next post

Tanlrat
Thanks for all the useful images.
Good fortune in my case- I did save the servo.

you're welcome

that's the Solenoid btw, the servo is the rubber diaphragm part that controls the throttle. the solenoid is the electric back up to the cruise brake switch. In most regular cars w/cruise there is a vacuum relief valve attached to the brake pedal as well as the switch. It is a mechanical back up to cutting off the cruise in case the electrics has a hiccup and not turn off the cruise when you apply the brakes. so there is two switches on the brake in the Fiero, one that runs though the module providing the electrical cutoff and the other that doesn't providing the mechanical cutoff.

Sears used to sell these kits at their automotive store. I found a sealed unit new in the box at a flea market a while back. I installed it on my brothers Jeep Cherokee

I replied to the OP's PM a minute ago (Honestly forgot about this thread), but looks like people have posted better pictures than I could take!

Just remember if you're doing stock-style, make sure the tail-light harness you grab is cruise-enabled and FOR YOUR BODY STYLE!

If you end up with the wrong body style, you should still be able use it, you'll just have to take it apart and get the cruise related wires only (and repin the C500 on your original harness IIRC....nevermind!)

Good news for me, I got the after market cruise that was on my car disconnected when I bought it to finally work today, so I don't have to go thru the installation of the OEM parts.
It was a bit of a PITA, but I kept after it and all I have left to do is replace the vac lines and mount the GM vac cannister tomorrow. It functions just like factory.

Very good thread here on cruise.

Yeah. Thanks all for your contribution here. Its more than a year since I started the thread, but since i'm not in a rush, the wait was worth it. Today I found (I was lucky...today) several needed parts for my stock setup. From two people (thanks "bigbobalicious robert2" my friend and Ben from AZ Mecanic) I found the servo/solenoid /trhottle cable on the support. Also the clutch and brake switch.

I found the cable braket (near the throttle body), the vacuum canister can...but this one will need to be replaced with a tomato juice can .

I also found the "jumper" harness (under the driver side dash).

Yesterday I found in a box of junk in the garage a cruise electronic module.

Now the only thing I need is one of the little round clip that hold the clutch switch. Also will need vacuum hose and a new vacuum canister. Not a big deal. And the rear harness.

Almost an happy man.

Edit: I forgot..need the cruise stalker too.

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Good

@Tanlrat : Is your interior is the original one with a new vinyl covering? if its the case could you send us more picture of your center console and pod for us to see what it look like? My interion will be in need of this type of treatment and I was not sure if it can be done.

Sorry Perry but the interior is in bit of a mess right now, i currently have the original interior vinyl except for the center console. I bought this current center console from PISA, already vinyled. I'm not happly with it since i still have to mod and figure out how to mount some of the stuff in it. I haven't had much time since the car is my daily driver to work on it.

In the future after i do the engine swap in the car I plan on complete redo fo the interior. some of the plans include repalcing all the gauges and locating them in the main dash pod and the driver's pillar. the center console gauge set is being deleted, with the gear shift, and console being relocated back 2-3" for easier reach. teh rest of the redesign of the consol for a double din GPS system, a thiner width, relocation of the ashtrays and lighter. and having a final touch of real brushed aluminum cover plates.

there will be 5 1/4" speakers and a hud installed ont he dash as well. over all i'm going to make the interior look Fiero but modern.

Ok. Thanks.

Someone have ever seen the little "air filter" that is supposed to be on the solenoid valve of the servo?

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It's like looking for a needle in a bail of hay with boxing gloves my men
Never seen one on any Fiero i've looked at . Neither on any pics .

quote Originally posted by perry rhodan: Ok. Thanks. Someone have ever seen the little "air filter" that is supposed to be on the solenoid valve of the servo?

Found this in a previous thread, the part number for the filter is ACDelco 219-13 (scroll down):

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/084870.html

Mike

Thans Nosferatu187..

I asked in the thread you gave me if the filter come with the clip that retain the filter or if it's juste the foam part that you can buy.

quote Originally posted by perry rhodan: Thans Nosferatu187.. I asked in the thread you gave me if the filter come with the clip that retain the filter or if it's juste the foam part that you can buy.

Ah sorry, I didn't see that. Anyway, here is the best picture I could find of it:



I've never actually seen one but I imagine the clip is not included. Really you could just make one out of foam and install that, maybe use a small wire tie to hold it in place. Advance Auto can get them, I might order one from there someday. They list it as an EGR filter, go figure.

Mike

PS: I think I actually found the GM part # for that clip: 1985870

Go to http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ and type in the above number in the search there.

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Youre right for the clip...but go figure if its the good one lollll

On www.rockauto.com the filter is listed under "supercharger" lollll , but picture show its the correct part.

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Supercharger? Well there you go, that's gotta be good for 10-15HP right there!

I use the picture and name all the wires and switch.


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