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3.4l OHV swaps t45 TURBO Flops. by 3.6lvvt6spdgt
Started on: 10-23-2007 04:59 PM
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I would return them and order elsewhere if possible. Flow testing will cost you the increase in price of going to a reputable vendor.
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Report this Post03-08-2008 02:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.6lvvt6spdgtSend a Private Message to 3.6lvvt6spdgtDirect Link to This Post
WOW i just got my seat covers from mr. mike and wow thats all i can say. as soon as i get them on i will post pics.
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just a old pic of the new hubs cv jounts were checked and greased and new boots put on also new e-brake cables (all of them), also replaced ball joints. eventuly i will get to the brakes. when i find the cd with the pictirec of the front rebuild i will post them
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fiddled around with the ecm swap today
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sorry ive been destracted by my 40mpg toy
ita a 2004 yamaha R6
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this car is FOR SALE 6500.00 with all parts except turbo kit
6800.00 for everythig
forced to sell by wife and new baby.
engine has 1000.miles on it runs strong.
location: Salem Oregon 50mi south of portland

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Congratulations about the baby! It's going to be sad not having more of this build thread to read through. You were doing a very fine job!

Good luck Man!

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price drop 6000.00 takes her home will ship any where you pay shipping
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After following this thread and your progress its sad to see your Fiero be put up for sale but I can understand that a new addition to the family can force a lifestyle change. Hope that you get a fair price for all of the work that you put into it. Good luck

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Originally posted by 3.6lvvt6spdgt:

this car is FOR SALE 6500.00 with all parts except turbo kit
6800.00 for everythig





I'll pay you the $300 right now for all the turbo stuff if thats the only difference in your asking price!

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well i tryed to sell it but pepole are just to poor around here so he we go agin today i started the new Y pipe for the turbo and im taking apart the interior so i car reupolster the seats and install the new ECU and the Stereo System i will post pics as soon as i figure out whats wrong with my PIP
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i deleted and reinstalled my PIP and its not uploading my pictures is the sever full?????

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just finnesed my Y pipe looks awsome wish my pip was working
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Try photobucket.com
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my new Y pipe sorry im not welder for a living
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this is what ive been so destracted by. ummmmmm fast does not sum it up
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my new MR. Mikes, seats.
need to find a way to tighten the lower back rest still 100% improvment




tomorow the sterio

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ok i contacted Tiago and he says his 3.4l at 8psi made 270hp but he goes on to say
Tiago said "With correct fuel and timing they will take alot of boost. I ran as much as 15 psi on mine"
so i will be running at around 250hp on a 3.4l turbo until..............................lol



Tiago is running an air to air intercooled 3.4L. He also uses a cryo cooler to ice his heat exchanger. Anything over about 9 psi on a 3.4L makes intercooling a must. I would not want to push the 3.4L above 300HP. Its just a best guess estimate but with a cast crank and smallish rods better to play it safe than sorry.
The 3.4L responds great to turbochaging, and I agree that its because the engine doesn't flow real well in stock trim especially when you use the Fiero plenum.

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my rear speakers pioneer good sound fit rite in with no problem. also put pioneer in the front forgot to take pictures. i got a bad cd player that i need to take it back tomarrow. will post pics then.

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just got the raido in and poped off a speker cover for pic

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will be starting the ecu swap tomarrow
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ecu in

turbo mocked up and it sits perfectly level


will be running my intercooler piping through here

sits kinda close to the lid i think a heat shild is in order

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How do you plan on running ic piping with the turbo angled like that?
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How do you plan on running ic piping with the turbo angled like that?


the compressor side can rotate. forgot to rotate it for the picture. the compressor outlet will be pointing down and from there its just a matter of piping.
and if you realy want to see just keep checking my build out. nice to know some ones looking.

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oh and for any one that wants to know the seats look even better after they sat in the sun a little bit and got hot. the heat made the materal tighten up and contur to the seat

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installed the new 30# injectors today and deleted the coldstart injector i welded the cold start cap to fill the hole.



i will be selling the old 19# injectors in the mall fourm.

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Howdy all, I just found this thread VIA Fieros NW. I must say having now 5 years of turbo experience ,that motor would have no problem spooling your old T45. Many people with the same car I have (Talon, Eclipse, Laser, Lancer EVO-same motor as the triplets) the T45 is a normal mod supporting over 500HP when tuned right on our 2.0L I4 with 7.8-8.5 compression (depending on year). True the 4G63 engine turns up to 7250 before fuel cut hits, but the turbo still spools before 4000. Your 3.4 with 9:1 would make that spool around 3500, but you wouldn't see much power because the turbos efficiency is at a much higher PSI than the 9 you are running. My stock turbo is a TD04 with a 14B wheel, which is significantly smaller than a standard Garret T3/T4, and I'm still cranking out about 280-300 crank HP @ 18-20 PSI, and still not dyno tuned. I only have my laptop, DSMLink ECU, and MAF-Translator, and seat of the pants to tell me whats going on. I'm running only my stock TINY sidemount intercooler, which I need to upgrade right away... If I had known what I know now about turbos, I would of kept the Fiero, and saved for this swap... It seems like a screaming mod, but I would of totally went with an air/water intercooler, and got rid of the trunk entirely lol. Just curious are you still selling it, or decided to keep it? I would love to see some dyno sheets off this build too.

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Howdy all, I just found this thread VIA Fieros NW. I must say having now 5 years of turbo experience ,that motor would have no problem spooling your old T45. Many people with the same car I have (Talon, Eclipse, Laser, Lancer EVO-same motor as the triplets) the T45 is a normal mod supporting over 500HP when tuned right on our 2.0L I4 with 7.8-8.5 compression (depending on year). True the 4G63 engine turns up to 7250 before fuel cut hits, but the turbo still spools before 4000. Your 3.4 with 9:1 would make that spool around 3500, but you wouldn't see much power because the turbos efficiency is at a much higher PSI than the 9 you are running. My stock turbo is a TD04 with a 14B wheel, which is significantly smaller than a standard Garret T3/T4, and I'm still cranking out about 280-300 crank HP @ 18-20 PSI, and still not dyno tuned. I only have my laptop, DSMLink ECU, and MAF-Translator, and seat of the pants to tell me whats going on. I'm running only my stock TINY sidemount intercooler, which I need to upgrade right away... If I had known what I know now about turbos, I would of kept the Fiero, and saved for this swap... It seems like a screaming mod, but I would of totally went with an air/water intercooler, and got rid of the trunk entirely lol. Just curious are you still selling it, or decided to keep it? I would love to see some dyno sheets off this build too.



well honestly i was for sale for 5000.00 a fu<king steal and no one was interested. and so i decided the new baby will just ride in the trunk. lol JOKE. so im continuing the build. mostly because my wife said i could keep it .
if i sold it now it would be for 9000.00 interested??
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well today i decided that i better install the rest of my stuff while i got the inside torn apart.
looking sexy



thats an adjustable shift light on the top there.
also finnished the rest of the 7730 swap
and started the underglow kit.

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well today i jacked up the car to install the under glow and decided while i got the car in the air there is more i can do.
so i installed the new high flow fuel pump sorry no pics i was in to much of a hurry...
it was a pain in the A** to drop that fuel tank.
also re-replaced the fuel filter while i was down there might as well.
then finnished the under glow kit agin no pics want to wait till i get the car running.

tommarow turbo oil lines.
and cleaning up the lose wires from the 7730 swap.
im hoping to get my V-band flange & clamp any day now so i can finnish the exhaust.
thanks for tunning in check back latter.

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its a bit ranny lately not much done the last 2 days.
here is the progress
removed these for better compartment cooling

heres what it looks like.


i ran the oil lines, air preassure/vacume lines and the intercooler piping. also installed the airfillter




that silver knob is for adjustable boost it leeks out air pressure to trick the wastegate to think your running 8psi when your really running ....... still to come lol

got kinda close to the shifter linkage

got an 88 4cly ecm tray so i finnaly got the inside back together. the red box is my underglow kit i will be mounting bolth boxes in the center glove box

still waiting on my v-band clamp and flange so i can finnish the exhaust.
i will try to get the heat shelds made here shortly stay tunned.

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went and got some sheet metal today for the heat shields and buttoned up a few lose wires.
here is a better pic of the intecooler piping fyi
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ok today sep 5 is my birthday and i bought me an intercooler
Core Size 21" X 5.5" X 2.5"


i will be putting this where the stock cat goes lots of room with no exhaust there.
and will be mounting 2 fans on the back of the intercooler for obvious reasons (intercolling and compartment cooling in town)
here are the fans

well thats all for today still waiting on an exhaust flange to finnish up

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some pics of the underglow kit



it realy lights up the engine bay nicely
got the exhaust flange in but now im waiting on my intercooler.
is any one realy interested?
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For sure, keep the updates coming. I'm wondering if your at all worried about rain water and leaves and pine needles falling onto your turbo, it will sure smell, and probably promote corrosion. Personally, I would make some sord of sheild between it and the vent.
Your work does look very quality and well planned from these pictures. Only thing I would change that I see is the under glow, they just aren't for me.
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You may want to attempt to fabricate a shroud and use one fan centrally located on your intercooler because the buisness area of the blades are so widely spaced on your fans you're going to have a large area of poor airflow beneath the hubs.
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You may want to attempt to fabricate a shroud and use one fan centrally located on your intercooler because the buisness area of the blades are so widely spaced on your fans you're going to have a large area of poor airflow beneath the hubs.


sorry the fans are only 7" inches across i should have said that. i will be useing 2 or 3 of them the part your talking about is only 4sq inches. however a duct might work better ill keep it in mind if i have any problems

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For sure, keep the updates coming. I'm wondering if your at all worried about rain water and leaves and pine needles falling onto your turbo, it will sure smell, and probably promote corrosion. Personally, I would make some sord of sheild between it and the vent.
Your work does look very quality and well planned from these pictures. Only thing I would change that I see is the under glow, they just aren't for me.


even with the vent backs in you still get pine nedles in the vents and through in tho the engine bay and the engine bay will be hotter,
so am i woried ....NO
but i'll let you know if i have any problems of course. thanks for the concern

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got the intercooler in today its looking good. "when the fans get here i will install them. with pics
also tried to start it but i must be missing somthing cause it only starts for about 1 second then dies. im working on the issue with darth via email so stay tunned.

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