Too funny

quote Originally posted by Jefrysuko: I would pitch in if that is what it would take for you to stand up to one of your challenges. I for one was really dissappointed that you simply backed down to Archie like you did. I would have thought alot more of you if you would have simply stated that your challenge didn't involve any financial stakes but you still stood behind your challenge. So let us know when you are going to stand behind one of your challenges and if I can make it I will buy you dinner or give you some gas money to help you afford it.

Gas money does not help me afford a $5000 challenge that archie gave me, you guys are throwing things WAY out of proportion if your still bringing up that crap he played on me. No fiero I have ever built has been worth 1/3 that, and no race would ever be worth me risking that sort of money at this point in my life. Sorry to all that can not seem to see this.

I never backed out of a friendly race with archie, thats all I was looking for at the first and thats all I was looking for when I asked for a race, "anywhere in the midwest, any time", and I eluded for racing for pinks (which honestly for any v8 guy would be pure suicide for the wallet if they were to lose).

quote I would have thought alot more of you if you would have simply stated that your challenge didn't involve any financial stakes but you still stood behind your challenge.

It takes 2 to tango, archie wouldnt have anything to do with a "for fun" race, and I obviously would, so I dont understand why you think less of me. I never once "turned down the challenge" I merely said I could never under any situations race for that sort of money. But, even now your reading this and interpreting it in your head the way "you want to see it" which is just the way people did in that archie thread.

quote Just remember for your future posts DarkHorizon: If you are going to Talk the Talk, you better be able to Walk the Walk.

I never "talked" anything, I merely asked for some type of 1/4 mile run to be posted. I never said "I would race you" or that "my stuff is faster than yours" or anything, I was just trying to be witty when asking for a time. NO CHALLENGE was put forth, no intention of a challenge was put forth, this is just a continuation of that stupid archie crap for months ago.

Sorry guys, im with dark on this one. I read it and totally didnt get the slightest hint of him throwing out a challenge to pro.

But i to would love to see an automatic sc3800 vs sbc.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I never "talked" anything, I merely asked for some type of 1/4 mile run to be posted. I never said "I would race you" or that "my stuff is faster than yours" or anything, I was just trying to be witty when asking for a time. NO CHALLENGE was put forth, no intention of a challenge was put forth, this is just a continuation of that stupid archie crap for months ago.

Dude, calm down. I never said that you did say you were faster than me. When you said you live your life a 1/4 mile at a time and you would love to see what it can do in the 1/4. I took it as a challenge and called you on it. If you don't want to race it is no big deal. I am not calling you a chicken or degrading you in anyway.
Whatever happend between you and Archie, is between you and Archie!! This is not a continuation of anything. I'm not a follower. I lead my own path, and do things my way.

Craig

Sure, I was not calling blame on anyone, I just try to keep the record straight around here so nobody gets the wrong idea.

quote Originally posted by prostreet505: I understand if you can't afford it at the time and you might be worried about something breaking and you have the chance of being stranded, but I would not leave you stranded at the track. I would tow you into the shop and have you up and running the next day at no charge to you. I don't hold a grudge against you, even though you tryed bashing the s**t out of me on your post on RFT. I just fiqured that this could have been a nice and friendly showdown of your 3800sc vs my sbc. If you can't do it at this time for whatever reasons you may have, maybe it will happen in the near future. Just remember for your future posts DarkHorizon: If you are going to Talk the Talk, you better be able to Walk the Walk. Craig

Wow! This plus the chip in from others is a great offer to Darkhorizon. Kind of a win win. But he has set his reputation as a V8 people hater with many many sarcastic comments on almost any V8 thread. So he can't be surprised when people jump on him. Just has been more calm after the huge Archie's blooper.

quote Originally posted by Alex4mula: Wow! This plus the chip in from others is a great offer to Darkhorizon. Kind of a win win. But he has set his reputation as a V8 people hater with many many sarcastic comments on almost any V8 thread. So he can't be surprised when people jump on him. Just has been more calm after the huge Archie's blooper.

I dont see the archie crap as a "blooper" I meant what I said and I stand behind itl.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I am waiting for the manual v8 guys to accept my challenge, I will race for whatever, money/pinks, heads up best of 5 races pinks style anywhere in the midwest.

Get a better memory

hey prostreet your part number for the intake is wrong, did you mean 350-2101?

prostreet505
Your build up has been well done and well documented. Keep the info and results coming.

prostreet505
darkhorizon
I would like to see you guys run at the track, not for any bragging rights, but to enjoy the racing and have fun. Don't let others turn this into an unpleasant thread. Maybe other midwest guys can coordinate and have a fiero track day together with you two.

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Tom
Suffolk, Va
87 Gt 350-5spd

quote Originally posted by FieroWannaBe: hey prostreet your part number for the intake is wrong, did you mean 350-2101?

Your right, it is part number 350-2101
Thanks, I edited the list with the correct part number.

Craig

I guess I can keep the thread going some by posting some pictures of the install into the car, since this is the car that the engine is going to be dynoed in.

Here is the engine, trans and all the accessories ready to be mounted to the cradle:









Here is the engine and trans mounted to the cradle:









Here is the engine in its new temporary home until after break-in and dyno run. Then this set-up is getting transfered to the wifes 86 GT:









And before everybody starts asking, The engine compartment is not going to look this crappy when it's done. I still have to install the new braided fuel, coolant, and vacuum lines along with hiding all the wiring. So it will look 100 times better. I just wanted to hook up the fuel and ignition so I could test fire the engine, and when it fired up, all I can say is WOW!!!

More progress to come......

Craig

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WOW

Did you install the GT front bumper????

You know you gotta post the video right? I dont have to remind you.....

dominik

quote Originally posted by dozol: WOW Did you install the GT front bumper???? You know you gotta post the video right? I dont have to remind you..... dominik

I did install the front and rear GT bumpers already. I still have to get the side ground effects and my quarter scoops. Hopefully that will be done before summer.
My camera takes movies, but they don't have any sound. It's a cheap and old camera.

Craig

Looking good, what a change from page 1

Can't wait to see the dyno results.

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quote Originally posted by prostreet505: Here is the engine, trans and all the accessories ready to be mounted to the cradle:

No water pump? Or am I missing something?

quote Originally posted by kwagner: No water pump? Or am I missing something?

I am running a remote mounted CSR electric waterpump. So the fittings for the pump gets installed after the engine is in the car.

Craig

quote Originally posted by kwagner: No water pump? Or am I missing something?

That is why it is a Budget Build had to save $$$ someplace.

Here is the completed engine install. The engine is ready to be broken in and enjoyed.











Craig

sweeeeeeeeet !

Very Nice Lots of Chrome. Is this an 84 car? Just wondering based on hose routing.

Looks great. Thanks for keeping up with the thread.

I was wondering, do you have a cap in the back for putting in water? I have an in-line filler cap and have been thinking about replacing it with a modified stock setup off of a Duke. That way I can change the thermostat without pulling the hose off the intake.
I also ran my hose to the front of the compartment but like your setup better and may change mine later just to make it easier to check the water and oil, I have to watch checking the oil when the car is warm or I will burn my arm on the hose.

It's a beauty!!

quote Originally posted by linuxpowered88: Very Nice Lots of Chrome. Is this an 84 car? Just wondering based on hose routing.

It is a 84, I just added the 85 GT bumper covers.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Looks great. Thanks for keeping up with the thread. I was wondering, do you have a cap in the back for putting in water? I have an in-line filler cap and have been thinking about replacing it with a modified stock setup off of a Duke. That way I can change the thermostat without pulling the hose off the intake. I also ran my hose to the front of the compartment but like your setup better and may change mine later just to make it easier to check the water and oil, I have to watch checking the oil when the car is warm or I will burn my arm on the hose.

I do not have a fill cap in the rear. I fill and bleed the cooling system from the radiator. I have had good luck with bleeding the air out of the cooling system at the radiator. Plus with no coolant fill in the engine compartment, it gives the engine a cleaner look. One more advantage of filling and bleeding at the radiator is that you don't get no coolant spilled on the engine, then I don't have to clean all the coolant off the chrome in the engine compartment.

Thanks to everyone for all the compliments and advice throughout this build. I am planning on taking this car and engine to the 25th, along with that will be all the reciepts and dyno sheet from the engine.
I will post the dyno results as soon as I break the engine in a bit.

Craig

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Thanks for the info craig I wish I could make it to the 25th but I doubt Ill be able too You should move to TN I could keep your employeed lol.

Thanks for a real nice build thread Craig. You really endured some BS along the way and I'm looking forward to seeing how your very pretty SBC does on the dyno. I'm still betting 300

Arn

Later this evening Dozol will post a video of the engine running. Hopefully this will give you an idea how healthy a 305 can be. I also took him for a ride in the car, because I am building another engine like this for his car.

Craig

Hello Guys

Yes, I saw Craig's screamer #1 today (mine will be #2 :P). He took me for a ride and..................... I can only say one thing........

Craig ! I want to have my car done !

No, but seriously that thing is a true screamer and is really fast. I lost breath when he fed it some gas.

Craig didnt even give it a full thottle, because the engine has less than 100 miles on it.

It sounded awesome too !!!

The video seems to be a little quiet. It was LOUD.

Enjoy ! Next time I visit Craig I will record another one.

Thanks for posting the video Dominik. Next time you stop by maybe you can take some video of the car in action.

Craig

You bet I will !

Thanks for sharing I'm ready to see it in action

How many miles on the new engine?

BUMP

dominik

Did you ever get this dyno's was wondering how it ended up HP wise.

Unfortunately, I did not get to the dyno yet. I have been so wrapped up in Dozol's build that it has not left me with much time. Check out his build and you will see why.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/067909-5.html

I should have enough miles on the engine within the next month to do a dyno run. Honestly, I would like to do a dyno run at a upcoming fiero event if there is an on site dyno, that way there can be alot of witnesses to the actual numbers. I have nothing to hide from the results of the dyno run. I know I am going to hit my hp goal. Maybe if the non-believers and the believers were present during the run, there will be less room for bashing after the results are posted.

Craig

That's the spirit. Just get a bunch of witnesses and make it happen. Thumbs up for getting numbers, so people can get an idea of what they can get out of a similar build. As I said before, there's a billion ways to build a SBC, and a billion different results!

Thanks prostreet I dont doubt you will hit your mark from the specs you built from im wondering how far over you might go. Good Luck.

Hey guys !

Here is a video we recorded with Craig. The background noise toward the end is me ( lol )
It is kind of shaky but you gotta understand that it was pulling pretty hard

Next time i will try to keep the camera more stable.



dominik

Before people start asking what is on the outside of the windshield on the hood. I figured I better let you know that it is my new heat extractor hood. Here are several pics: