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Is this AC orifice tube plugged? by sjmaye
Started on: 06-28-2009 02:36 PM
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Report this Post06-28-2009 02:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sjmayeSend a Private Message to sjmayeDirect Link to This Post
OK have a laugh on me as I am new to AC.

I just redid my 88gt AC system and all went well. I went to do the same on my 87 gt, but I was getting some pretty high low side reading compared to the 88. Someone mentioned to check the orifice tube. Here it is.




* Is it plugged?
* I was going to just replace it, but thought I should ask if I should dig deeper.

Anyone?


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Report this Post06-28-2009 02:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rodrv6Send a Private Message to Rodrv6Direct Link to This Post
Yes, it's plugged--go ahead and get another one (they're pretty cheap).
You need to flush the lines and replace the receiver/dryer. The compressor may be bad, too. It looks like "black death".......

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Report this Post06-28-2009 02:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TKSend a Private Message to TKDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post06-28-2009 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TopNotchClick Here to visit TopNotch's HomePageSend a Private Message to TopNotchDirect Link to This Post
That's actually pretty clean compared to the one I pulled out of my 88 coupe.
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Report this Post06-28-2009 03:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sjmayeSend a Private Message to sjmayeDirect Link to This Post
I guess the compressor could be bad, bit it is a rebuilt I bought and I have used it very little.

With regard to flushing the lines.

* I assume it is a no brainer. The flushing needs to be done?
* Do I have to disconnect the lines from the compressor and flush inlet and outlet front to back?
* Or disconnect each component and flush separately?
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How long has that tube been in there? That's not black death to me. Just used with some compressor wear. Is the goop hard chunks or just slimy grease?

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Report this Post06-28-2009 04:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Yes that's plugged. Looks like the compressor exploded and sent metal fragments throughout the system.

Flush individual parts. I can't remember if the Fiero condenser is flushable. Don't flush the lines with mufflers on them (by the compressor).

The accumulator needs to be replaced as well, any time you open up the system. Replace the orifice tube with a variable one, if you can find one.

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Report this Post06-28-2009 05:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sjmayeSend a Private Message to sjmayeDirect Link to This Post
Ok, I laid the orifice on a paper towel and flushed with spray card cleaner. The black residue flew off the orifice tube on to the paper towel. most of it dissolved in the carb cleaner. There were black specks remaining. These were NOT magnetic.

The tube was in there for a year or two, but with the AC running only maybe 10 hours. I don't drive this car much.
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Originally posted by sjmaye:

Ok, I laid the orifice on a paper towel and flushed with spray card cleaner. The black residue flew off the orifice tube on to the paper towel. most of it dissolved in the carb cleaner. There were black specks remaining. These were NOT magnetic.

The tube was in there for a year or two, but with the AC running only maybe 10 hours. I don't drive this car much.


The parts in the compressor that tend to fail are the piston rings, which are made of teflon type plastic, and the pistons themselves, which are made of aluminum. If the car had a previous compressor failure, you may be seeing leftover residue. Put in a new orifice tube and reciever/dryer, evacuate and recharge the system and give it a try. It's a lot cheaper than changing the compressor.

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Originally posted by sjmaye:

I went to do the same on my 87 gt, but I was getting some pretty high low side reading compared to the 88. Someone mentioned to check the orifice tube.



In my mind a plugged orifice tube will give low low side pressure readings not high. I can see that a weak compressot would give high low sode pressure readings. But a new orifuce tube is less than $10, So I''d replace it and charge the systen up and see what happens
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Report this Post06-29-2009 03:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sjmayeSend a Private Message to sjmayeDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for all your input guys. This next week end I will be flushing the system, evacuating and recharging. I will let you know how it goes.

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