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Ford Fusion Instrument Cluster by michfiero
Started on: 03-11-2010 08:41 PM
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Report this Post03-11-2010 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for michfieroSend a Private Message to michfieroDirect Link to This Post

Anyone tried to install the Ford Fusion instrument cluster in their Fiero?
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Report this Post03-12-2010 10:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TopNotchClick Here to visit TopNotch's HomePageSend a Private Message to TopNotchDirect Link to This Post
Do you have a picture of one?
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Report this Post03-12-2010 12:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post
2010 one from car and driver

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Report this Post03-12-2010 01:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for michfieroSend a Private Message to michfieroDirect Link to This Post
I was thinking more of the non-hybrid version...

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/fo...nstrumentcluster.jpg

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Report this Post03-12-2010 03:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post
'Ere you go, looks quite nice:




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Report this Post03-12-2010 05:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
the chances of it working in a fiero are zero to none. ALL modern cars use a digital data format to the gauges. You will not get them to talk to the Fiero without several hundred dollars worth of custom electronics. GM and Ford absolutely hate car tinkerers and modders so they make all te communication protocols to their stuff super secret.
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Yeah, GM and Ford are evil to modders. You should find a nice set of Nissan or Mercedes gauges, they are designed to be easy to tinker with.
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Report this Post03-12-2010 07:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Chris HodsonSend a Private Message to Chris HodsonDirect Link to This Post
who cares if they work, they look sick! j/k it would be neat to have them work on something other than a space ship.
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Report this Post03-12-2010 08:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DefEddieSend a Private Message to DefEddieDirect Link to This Post
Give me year make model you want info from and i'll pull the service manual (i'm a ford tech).

I'll tell you right now though it's not going to happen more than likely.
Most clusters in Fords are known as HEC's,and they are a seperate body module all their own.
They hold the security info and other things,and have a direct network link via medium speed CAN IIRC.
It would really surprise me if you get it into a vehicle,though i'm saying that without looking at when inputs it requires (though I really doubt it will happen without WORK)

And while those are nice,if I were going to the trouble I would get one of the electroluminescent clusters from the lincoln continentals around 99-02ish.
They reflect onto a plexi backboard,and makes it look 3d or like it's floating there.
No fancy color changing but meh.

And make sure you don't get one like pictured above,it is from a hybrid and would cause even more issues more than likely.
I've seen them but not had to tear into one yet.
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Originally posted by Chris Hodson:

who cares if they work, they look sick! j/k it would be neat to have them work on something other than a space ship.


I dunno, those gauges look like they'd be right at home in a spaceship...

But they would be pretty cool in a fiero too.
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Originally posted by D_sensitized:


I dunno, those gauges look like they'd be right at home in a spaceship...

But they would be pretty cool in a fiero too.


I thought the Fiero WAS a spaceship? :O
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Report this Post03-12-2010 10:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rickady88GTSend a Private Message to Rickady88GTDirect Link to This Post
They kind of remind me of the current V6 Malibu. They have a really cool blue back light that is bright in the center and fades away at the edges.


I tried to find a pic of them lit but, could not.


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Report this Post03-12-2010 11:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tednelson83Click Here to visit tednelson83's HomePageSend a Private Message to tednelson83Direct Link to This Post
might be able to do it if you gutted it, and used the electronics from something else, like autometer guages, or modified fiero guage guts. calibration would be a chore, but im sure it could be done with enough tinkering.
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Report this Post03-13-2010 12:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DefEddieSend a Private Message to DefEddieDirect Link to This Post
Took a quick look at the wiring diagram for a '10 fusion,I would say it's not worth it unless you can make your own controllers that will convert the signals.
The cluster communicates exclusively on an HS-CAN network for data,and also MS-CAN to the smart junction box (BCM for Fords).
If you want to look at the diagrams I can post them up,lotta stuff in these including the security circuit,traction control etc.. ignition has a logic circuit internal to the cluster.
Aftermarket would be easier and cheaper i'll bet,it'll cost you $100 for the Ford dealer to plug in for any programming not counting the high cost of these clusters.
I replace HEC's regularly,and almost always have to return the core(so no freebies). They start at about $600 for most vehicles from what i've paid attention too. (that fusion will be quite a bit more eeven used)
If you can create your own network,alter the programming in the cluster than it would be a fun hack though.
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Report this Post03-13-2010 02:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for michfieroSend a Private Message to michfieroDirect Link to This Post
Thanks DefEddie

Ok...now, where did I put that Plan B.
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