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trans am GTA rims fit? by joshh44
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Report this Post05-01-2009 02:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for joshh44Send a Private Message to joshh44Direct Link to This Post
howdy.
i was just surfing my local online ads website and i came across these.

http://www.usednanaimo.com/classified-ad/7841755

would they fit or would i need new hubs with a different bolt pattern?
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Report this Post05-01-2009 02:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mrfieroSend a Private Message to mrfieroDirect Link to This Post
Different bolt pattern.....5x115mm, I believe.

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Report this Post05-01-2009 02:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jweismanSend a Private Message to jweismanDirect Link to This Post
there 5 X 4 3/4
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They are 16x8 and I have been told by the local tire shop to not exceed a 7.5, best would be a 7
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Report this Post05-01-2009 10:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Trans Am wheels first off have a bolt pattern of 5 X 4.75"
Second they are for RWD which uses a different offset then the FWD style wheels used on a Fiero. Typically FWD wheels use a positive offset and RWD uses 0 or negative offset.

The offset of the T/A wheels will move the center of the wheels outboard. This will put undo stress on the bearing hub and kill it in short time.
Not to mention it will ruin the handling of the car.

Don't use RWD wheels on a FWD style suspension set-up.

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Originally posted by Shill:

They are 16x8 and I have been told by the local tire shop to not exceed a 7.5, best would be a 7


The width can vary as long as the offset is changed correctly.
Some examples:
8" wide needs 42 mm or less
8.5" wide needs 35 mm or less
9" needs 30 mm or less

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Report this Post05-01-2009 05:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ARFieroSend a Private Message to ARFieroDirect Link to This Post
Also Trans Am GTA style Front lace wheels have different off-set than the rear. I don't remember what it is right off hand but all of the 16 inch 3rd gen wheels had this to be able to fit the 245/50R16 tires under them. My 16 inch IROC wheels are the same way (I owned a GTA at one time so thats how I know this).

Shelby

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Report this Post05-01-2009 06:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IsoldeSend a Private Message to IsoldeDirect Link to This Post
The Trans Am bolt circle is 5 on 4.75", NOT 4.50"
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Originally posted by Isolde:

The Trans Am bolt circle is 5 on 4.75", NOT 4.50"


Opps, Thanks.
I change my previous post.
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Report this Post05-02-2009 12:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Flyboy81Send a Private Message to Flyboy81Direct Link to This Post
Maybe im overshootin a little here, but the offset isnt THAT big of a difference it seems to me? The rear wheels on the 88's and all 4 GT wheels on other years seem to have a slight offset to the rear. I wanted to do the same thing to my Formula for the rear. But, as mentioned, different bolt pattern. Anyway I was only curious.... )
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Report this Post05-02-2009 04:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for joshh44Send a Private Message to joshh44Direct Link to This Post
ahh. thanks for the info. i did not know about the differences between RWD and FWD rims.
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Originally posted by Flyboy81:

Maybe im overshootin a little here, but the offset isnt THAT big of a difference it seems to me? The rear wheels on the 88's and all 4 GT wheels on other years seem to have a slight offset to the rear. I wanted to do the same thing to my Formula for the rear. But, as mentioned, different bolt pattern. Anyway I was only curious.... )


Going from a positive offset (Fiero wheels) to a negative offset (Firebird/Trans Am wheels) is a very big difference.
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Report this Post05-03-2009 12:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Flyboy81Send a Private Message to Flyboy81Direct Link to This Post
I guess I just never really noticed the difference in the wheels on the 2 other than being a little wider.
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Report this Post05-03-2009 12:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
Just for the record the 4th gen Trans Am switched to a FWD offset, even though they were still RWD.

The bolt pattern is still wrong, but if you adapt te Fiero to the correct bolt pattern the wheels will look correct from an offset standpoint anyway.

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Report this Post05-03-2009 01:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for kyunderdawgSend a Private Message to kyunderdawgDirect Link to This Post
How did they get them to fit the '90 Prototype or are they the same wheels? They look it in the pics that I've seen.
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Report this Post05-03-2009 06:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for joshh44Send a Private Message to joshh44Direct Link to This Post
interesting info.
maybe the 90's prototype had 4.75 bolt pattern?
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Report this Post05-03-2009 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by joshh44:

interesting info.
maybe the 90's prototype had 4.75 bolt pattern?


Interesting question. I'm inclined to say no, yet those wheels never appeared anywhere else in the 5 x 100 family.
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Originally posted by kyunderdawg:

How did they get them to fit the '90 Prototype or are they the same wheels? They look it in the pics that I've seen.


If I recall correctly, I thought the ones on the prototype were the Bonneville wheels painted black.
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Originally posted by Oreif:


If I recall correctly, I thought the ones on the prototype were the Bonneville wheels painted black.


They look to have a negative offset hence the deep lip.

Found a pic......'90 Prototype. The prototype is just missing the center caps.





GTA....

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Report this Post05-03-2009 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AlibiSend a Private Message to AlibiDirect Link to This Post
Bonneville rims are 5 x 115 so they would have only fit the prototype if the hubs were different.
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Report this Post05-03-2009 11:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joshh44Send a Private Message to joshh44Direct Link to This Post
yeah you can really tell the deep lip on the GTA.
i like the deep look.
i would like to have the GT rims but i would like a bigger rim in that style. keep it stock looking. but a bigger rim.
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Report this Post06-20-2010 09:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Y_B_A_FOOLSend a Private Message to Y_B_A_FOOLDirect Link to This Post
Well from what I can tell these are on the Delta 204t Fiero. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/077264.html (scroll down a little)
It says they are 16s, so I'm guess'n these are the rims. I would like to imagine they used a form of spacer? Or they had them drilled from the factory 5x100... I'm hoping its a spacer thing or something ^.^ 9" wide rims would look sick from the rear
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