quote Originally posted by RWDPLZ: My favorite was a 2000 Mazda 626, one of the caliper bolts acts as a pivot for the caliper, so you don't have to worry about kinking the hose.

On my Mercedes C2230 and E430, you don't remove the calipers at all. Just pull the retaining pins of the top, push the pistons in with a BF screwdriver and install new pads. It takes longer to jack the car and remove the wheels than to swap the pads. I've got the Duralast Golds on both of them and swap them out every year or so.

It's not just the discount places. I saw the problem back in the late 80's with a Mercury Sable, using Wagner pads I got at a "real" parts store. They were hard, and I had to re-do the brakes about every year.

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: yes, this is the case for Pepboys/Autozone/Advanced Auto bottom of the barrel NAPA/Carquest for the good stuff

I don't buy NAPA anymore either. I used NAPA pads on my first brake job on my Formula, and they were great. Then for the next two brake jobs I used something else that was crap. Then I tried another set from NAPA. Crap, too. Now I have Thermo Quiets, and I love them. Now I just use OEM pads if I can get them, which, of course, I can't for my Fiero. I've never had a problem with OEM pads.

There is a local non advertising wholsaler that sells all bendix and USA hard parts for less than autozone prices. Its awesome, they dont even have a sign out from and takes cash only.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: There is a local non advertising wholsaler that sells all bendix and USA hard parts for less than autozone prices. Its awesome, they dont even have a sign out from and takes cash only.

hmmmm - did they "fall off the truck"?

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: hmmmm - did they "fall off the truck"?

Perhaps they're a "Home Boy Shopping Network" franchise....

..I will continue to promote American made products ..One of America,s major problems is people like sell out Dopey ,..Try to always buy American products,,promote America, we can only hope Dopey moves to Japan or China,, the land he really loves with his wallet..I know Japan does not have the smell of urine it use to ,when I lived there, but please move as soon as possible Dopey
..Many here do not want to hear the stuff I write ,,WE ,us have destroyed America,,and the origin of the parts we use on the forum is important , just look at the crap our cars now have installed on them..The acceptance of the destruction of our manufacturing base is a tragedy.and the sad,pathetic moron members who wrap thier arms around this ?? think about it . This is a mechanical issue of the greatest importance..
..My friends know me as a liberal,,but they are superpatriot,s who defended America with thier blood and life !! ,,FIGHT BACK,I know its not popular or politically correct..GET OFF YOUR "fanny"Never tire of the fight..I do not care if you dislike me,stand in the door for America

..GOD, GUTS, GUNS & FIERO made America great,screw Toyota
Sgt. U.S.Newton USMC (abn)

quote Originally posted by uhlanstan: ..I will continue to promote American made products ..One of America,s major problems is people like sell out Dopey ,..Try to always buy American products,,promote America, we can only hope Dopey moves to Japan or China,, the land he really loves with his wallet..I know Japan does not have the smell of urine it use to ,when I lived there, but please move as soon as possible Dopey ..Many here do not want to hear the stuff I write ,,WE ,us have destroyed America,,and the origin of the parts we use on the forum is important , just look at the crap our cars now have installed on them..The acceptance of the destruction of our manufacturing base is a tragedy.and the sad,pathetic moron members who wrap thier arms around this ?? think about it . This is a mechanical issue of the greatest importance.. ..My friends know me as a liberal,,but they are superpatriot,s who defended America with thier blood and life !! ,,FIGHT BACK,I know its not popular or politically correct..GET OFF YOUR "fanny"Never tire of the fight..I do not care if you dislike me,stand in the door for America ..GOD, GUTS, GUNS & FIERO made America great,screw Toyota

I can understand just fine that you are and full up on so you like to about it until you're . And this topic you're tossing on about it in, is about brakes. If you don't have any valid factual information about the Duralast Gold pads, please don't waste everyone's time with it. If you want to spout off your racist hatred, do it in Totally O/T. Frankly, you're about as coherent as an empty box of rocks.

If you really want to try to get into a petty argument over your petty ignorances with me, feel free to hit that little PM button, and I will gladly rip you a new one, without having to waste everyone else's time in glossing over it. There may be valuable information yet to come in the thread, and it'd be nice if it didn't end up in the trash because of your idiotic ramblings.

Many garages and brake shops use the duralast brand Pads
every one who likes Chinese & Japanese products best MOVE there, leave America to those who love it..Stand up for american made products
time to make the liberal foreign parts loving traitors eat it ,
..TO HARSH?? NO WAY WE ARE PAYING A VERY HEAVY PRICE ,DRIVE THRU DETROIT ,,INDUSTRIAL OHIO,,GET HARD WE ARE BEING DESTROYED BY DOPEY,S ATTITUTE & THOSE LIKE HIM
Let Dopey & the politically correct ,and the other Chinese parts loving people move there !!
..Buy american made brake parts parts when ever possible ,,ASK FOR THEM
WAKE UP ,,unfortunately this has become relevant to tech,, there are many accidents because of cheap foreign made brake components,,it has been a topic on many national mechanic RADIO talk shows..
Fiero owners have had thepads fall off the metal backing
Hate me,detest me,,get back to American parts ,ask for American made parts
Many liberals here hate my guts,,ask for american parts ..
A hard lesson is comming ,this is the warmup ?? ask for American parts
The hardcore military veterans are finally stiring & they are angry,,I have been waiting for them to come out of thier slumber,WAKE UP !!

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quote Originally posted by uhlanstan: Many garages and brake shops use the duralast brand Pads every one who likes Chinese & Japanese products best MOVE there, leave America to those who love it..Stand up for american made products time to make the liberal foreign parts loving traitors eat it , ..TO HARSH?? NO WAY WE ARE PAYING A VERY HEAVY PRICE ,DRIVE THRU DETROIT ,,INDUSTRIAL OHIO,,GET HARD WE ARE BEING DESTROYED BY DOPEY,S ATTITUTE & THOSE LIKE HIM Let Dopey & the politically correct ,and the other Chinese parts loving people move there !! ..Buy american made brake parts parts when ever possible ,,ASK FOR THEM WAKE UP ,,unfortunately this has become relevant to tech,, there are many accidents because of cheap foreign made brake components,,it has been a topic on many national mechanic RADIO talk shows.. Fiero owners have had thepads fall off the metal backing Hate me,detest me,,get back to American parts ,ask for American made parts Many liberals here hate my guts,,ask for american parts .. A hard lesson is comming ,this is the warmup ?? ask for American parts The hardcore military veterans are finally stiring & they are angry,,I have been waiting for them to come out of thier slumber,WAKE UP !!

well, at least thru this ramble you get it 1/2 right
might wanna look at which side is for outsourcing
and also which side has sold out the USA to asians

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quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: well, at least thru this ramble you get it 1/2 right might wanna look at which side is for outsourcing and also which side has sold out the USA to asians

Gah. Don't encourage the bum. Conservative crackpots like him never use logic or facts. Those are the tools of the liberal devil! And he's not half right at all. The only thing right about him, is his alignment on the political spectrum. Hell, ALL the "foreigners" I know, speak and write better English than this idiot… as their third language.

Dopey..Thank you for helping me spread the word ,,And also thank you for revealing your true colors as a Marxist left wing liberal useful idiot,,..
..I am not to smart now ,, some democrat hit me while drunk driving and left me for dead beside the road ,severely brain damaged,, could not walk for years ,I imagine he was a lot like you??
I speak 3 lanquages,,went to college which is crap,But I served many years fighting and killing the communist/liberals which is a million times more important than the time I spent listening to marxist teachers

Quality american tool,,available at AUTOZONE,excellent for fiero slave
AJUSTABLE SLAVE CYLINDER HONE by O E M..
listed as ajustable brake cylinder hone 3/4 to 21/2

quote Originally posted by uhlanstan: I imagine he was a lot like you??

Clearly you know absolutely nothing about me, or anyone like me. Hell, you can't even seem to spell my username correctly, even though it's right there in front of you while you're typing. You just like to believe whatever you were told by someone who is probably a more insane conservative crackpot than yourself.

There is no such thing as "Made in America" any more, or expecting that you can survive only on resources from your own country, if you want to live in the modern world. I'm sure there are a few caves in the Rockies, Ozarks, or Appalatia, that would be quite suitable for you though. There is an old saying, "No man is an island." And that saying is just as true to extend it with "Nor is any nation." It is simply impossible for any nation to sustain itself on its own resources, in the modern technological world. But you would rather live and die an ignorant life now, than try and make the world a better place for generations to come. Nobody is going to need brakes, no matter where they are made, when they can't afford to buy oil and gasoline to drive their cars anywhere.

Back to brake pads..

When I was using my Fiero as a dailey driver years ago, I had the best results using AC Delco pads, no question. Same with my Buick. Accordingly I check the AC Delco website and the frt & rr pads & rotors are still available...for how long?? Well..who knows, not too long I would guess. They are of course usually the highest price.

BTW..good ol' USA is still #1 in manufacturing output from a monitary point- about 1.8 trillion.

Mark

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86 SE V6 4 speed
86 SE V6 Auto
2008 G6 GT "Street" Coupe

Personally, I avoid Chinese branded products because they are inferior in quality...and I have a good idea how lax their quality controls are, especially for a non-name branded product that is almost exclusively price driven. Go buy a $1 Chinese screwdriver and a $4 USA Husky screwdriver and tell me which one is made from a higher quality steel. For light duty jobs, the cheap stuff works - but its honestly just a lousy product. The head will distort because of the soft metal. Thankfully still there are USA manufacturers of auto parts and tools, for the most part.

It doesn't help that seemingly every week theres news that Chinese products are laced in some new toxic metal or chemical. Toys with lead, milk with melamine, and now jewelry with cadmium. While I don't agree with the accusations of Marxism going on here it would be nice if the average American stood up for the home team a little bit more...