Hmmm, whichever Hella 90mm lights that F1F said to get... are the ones I got. I think they're just projectors, not HID. And I'm using F1Fs first gen buckets.

quote Originally posted by americasfuture2k: what bracket assemblies are these? are there two different ones made? these seem to be metal and the onces ive seen from projectorretrofit are plastic. also, where do you get the HID version of the projectors? ive only seen the H9 version on hella's web page. and it wasnt even the projector one.

These are the metal buckets that Fiero1Fan and Synthesis have been selling for quite some time now. This has nothing to do with the plastic buckets recently on the market.

HL68136 Headlamp, 90mm High Beam - currently $59.75 ea.
Free form reflector design meant for use as a high beam. DOT lamp uses H9 Halogen Bulb, which is included.

HL68137 Headlamp, 90mm Low Beam - currently $64.25 ea.
Projector design with DOT cut off meant for use as a low beam. DOT lamp uses H9 Halogen Bulb, which is included.

The HID version of the low beam will not work with F1F's buckets due to clearance with the headlight door. You really have to see these modules in person before making a judgment call that you need to have HID. The H9 spec is 65-watt, 2100-lumens. Upgraded Fiero sealed beam headlights with replaceable 65/55W H4 bulbs are around 1650/1000 lumens...

For reference though...
HL68139H Lamp Unit Only DE Xenon 90MM, Low beam, DOT - currently $167.16 housing only or $453.85 with Hella D2S capsule and ballast, each.

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im wanting a look along with function setup on my car. modernized look and function... HIDs, LEDs, the SCIII, technology stuff... check out the modernize your fiero with technology thread for some references

does that make sense or did i just confuse everyone and maybe too?

bah doh! i fofrgot about that site. thanks carbon!

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quote Originally posted by americasfuture2k: im wanting a look along with function setup on my car. modernized look and function... HIDs, LEDs, the SCIII, technology stuff... check out the modernize your fiero with technology thread for some references

I am right there with you, but you're assuming that these halogen projectors are knuckle dragging artifacts of a bygone age? Really? I have read your thread and there are some great ideas... I know you know about HIDPlanet... do a search for Hella 90mm... there are ways to get what you want But don't try to talk down to me about 'look' when you haven't even seen these in person...

so I just started to put my headlights together using the same buckets . I am wondering since I powder-coated mine if that would prevent the clips from popping in the wholes. I have applied a lot of force and no such luck so far , i am guessing i need remove the coating in the holes.

Kemp, I've read other people that had mixed results - it could be that the coating they used was thinner or they cleaned out the holes before putting in the grommets and trying to put the pins through. I can tell you when I initially assembled them, I used a vice, this last time when I accidently popped it out, I used a handtool to hold the 3-peg-prong in place as I ratched the pin down to push it back in.

quote Originally posted by americasfuture2k: im wanting a look along with function setup on my car. modernized look and function... HIDs, LEDs, the SCIII, technology stuff... check out the modernize your fiero with technology thread for some references does that make sense or did i just confuse everyone and maybe too? bah doh! i fofrgot about that site. thanks carbon!

Keep in mind LEDs project bright but not that far!

I was also wondering if you could sum up the cost of this "conversion"?

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I disagree on the LED thing. It all comes down to the number of diodes, the quality of the LED, and how closely your LED color is matched to your lense color. The LEDS I put in the "PONTIAC" logo light it up enough to be seen clearly from all angles and easily from about 100 feet away (that's as far as I've been from the car with it running). Think of how many stoplights have now converted over to LED, and the distance you can clearly see them from!

Now I would not recommend them as headlights, because you'd need *tons* of LEDS to get good coverage, distance aside. But that's just me.

Sorry to contribute to the side-topic.