Unfortunately, no it will not. The '84-'86 used a 300 series TBI where the '87-'88 used a 700 series TBI. The good news is those 300 series TBI's are found on many '80's-'90's GM cars and trucks. I can find 10 or 20 in my local pull-a-part junkyard. You have a junkyard like that near you?
Yes, Luckily there is actually an '84 there right now.
EDIT: was able to get ahold of all fiero .bin files. Will be creating a new thread for those who need them.
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Shill Member
Posts: 2166 From: Spokane, WA Registered: Apr 2009
So, i had the new ECM with the old PROM in the car. FInally pulled the code and it read 51 a faulty PROM. So I switched back to the PROM that came with the newer ECU and code went away, it's idling at 1100 now, straight from a cold start. not the 2500/3000 RPM warmup as it used to Still bogging and backfiring when I give it gas. Sounds as if it is missing quite often, can't be too positive as my ears aren't trained to recognize that. Anyways. My old prom is the DDB0203 and the new PROM is the DKY1888. What sort of issues will i run across using the wrong PROM? does anyone have a DDB0203 PROM I could purchase?
The car is running great, made a long trip to fiero fest in richland. One problem I am having is that when I rewired it, I must've crossed the temp sensor and the temp gauge. The warning light slowly brightens until the t-stat opens and then the light will quickly dim and begin to brighten when it closes again. The temp gauge just sits at cold. I'm assuming that I got the colors wrong and that the gauge is powering the light and the light is powerign the gauge. Which color wires are the correct ones that go into the connectors at the block?
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phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
Go to the temp gauge sender, there is a green and a green with tan wire. Usually the plastic of the connector is broken off. Take the two and swap them and that will make the light and gauge work correctly
This applies IF your plastic shell is still in place for the Temp Gauge Sender connector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You might have to put a paperclip into the plastic connector to bend a metal tang back to get the metal connector to pull out. After you get the two out, bent the tang back out so the metal connector stays in the plastic shell
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Shill Member
Posts: 2166 From: Spokane, WA Registered: Apr 2009
Go to the temp gauge sender, there is a green and a green with tan wire. Usually the plastic of the connector is broken off. Take the two and swap them and that will make the light and gauge work correctly
This applies IF your plastic shell is still in place for the Temp Gauge Sender connector
it was on there until I accidentally broke it off putting my socket over it to tighten it down. so I can just reverse the plug and it will be fine?
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Aug 24th, 2010
phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
I'm not sure what you are saying. You need to swap the two wires on the temperature gauge sending unit. One should be green the other green with a tan stripe
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Shill Member
Posts: 2166 From: Spokane, WA Registered: Apr 2009
I spoke with Shill last night. He just fired her up after changing plugs and wires. He has the marine block 4cyl, and I must say it is quite peppy. This car was a basket case, and he has slowly pulled his first car back from the dead. Nice job Pennocks!
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Shill Member
Posts: 2166 From: Spokane, WA Registered: Apr 2009
It has always done this, even when the connectors were disconnected or reversed, etc. What would the benefits of it not pegging? I see no problem with the gauge test at startup unless there is some hidden issue this will cause.
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phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
The advantanges of changing the wiring to eliminate the pegging
1 - You then have a check lamp function as you should for the temp light 2 - Your temp gauge isn't getting more and more inaccurate every time you start the car 3 - Your needle doesn't to the spaz out dance when you start the car.
The advantages of leaving it miswired as stock
--- So you can decide. It is a common belief that GM miswired the check light function to the wrong leads. There is no other explaination that makes any sense as to why GM would have left off the check light function and made the temp gauge do it's nasty start spasm.
The instructions on the link show how to swap them. You swap would be a little easier since on the engine end all you would have to do is reverse the plug rather than pull the connectors out of the plastic shell. You will still need to do the corrisponding swap at the dash connector end as per the link.
btw - Light and gauge working correctly now?
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