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Fuel pressure gauge for stock V6 fuel rail? by n_tensetuning
Started on: 11-15-2010 02:54 PM
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Report this Post11-15-2010 02:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for n_tensetuningSend a Private Message to n_tensetuningDirect Link to This Post
Hello everyone

Just curious if anyone was ever successful in mounting a fuel pressure gauge w/fitting onto the shrader valve(relief valve-test port) found on top of the fuel block on the v6 2.8 fieros?
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Report this Post11-15-2010 03:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
You can buy a fuel pressure gauge from Summit Racing that will screw right onto the schrader valve at the fuel rail. You can check the pressure (which is a good idea) but I don't recommend that you keep it permanently installed. If it comes loose fuel will spray all over the engine and cause a fire. My FP gauge is permanently installed on the dash but the sensor is installed on a T block in the braided SS lines.

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Report this Post11-15-2010 03:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for n_tensetuningSend a Private Message to n_tensetuningDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for posting Dennis : D

Would it not be possible to use some threadlocker glue when screwing on the fuel pressure gauge to the Shrader valve in order to keep it from unloosening itself?

Any idea what size the shrader valve is ex: #3AN or #4AN, etc..??

Lastly, I've been reading that the shrader valve on the fuel rail should have a cap over it? and that the valve needle just like a tire valve one, sometimes comes loose?


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Report this Post11-15-2010 04:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
Yes it should have a cap on it.

I have never had a tire schreader valve or fuel pressure schreader valve come loose.

The cap is to keep dirt out of the connection.

You could always thread a nut down the valve threads (outside) and then after installing the valve, back the nut up to the valve tightly to lock it from turning.
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Report this Post11-15-2010 06:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruDirect Link to This Post
Call me cheap, but the shrader valve itself unscews from the fuel line block.
Take the block off, remove the shrader valve and then drill/tap the shrader valve hole for NPT 1/8" which is the common size for most off the shelf fuel pressure gauges.
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Report this Post11-15-2010 07:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Black LotusSend a Private Message to Black LotusDirect Link to This Post
Put a fuel pressure gauge from the Fiero Store (IIRC)on my Formula. Didn't like the gauge but did like the fuel rail fitting it came with. Used that schraeder valve fitting with an Autometer #3663 electric fuel pressure gauge. The old ones needed a separate amplfier to run the gauge. The new ones don't.
Makes a very nice permanent instl. The sender at the fuel rail is very small and light--won't give you any problems.
The only downside is running the electrical wires and the expense.
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Report this Post11-15-2010 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
Those fuel pressure gauges are a great diagnostic tool. (Just found my leaky injector with it.) You can quickly tell if you have a fuel pump problem, fuse is blown, fuel regulator issues, or like I mentioned a fuel injector problem. They are a must. On my 2.8 I just cut the fuel line and put a T in there. It was a simple install.
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Report this Post11-16-2010 12:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Black LotusSend a Private Message to Black LotusDirect Link to This Post
Here's my setup as described.
It's the gold and blue widget above the rad cap.
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Report this Post11-16-2010 02:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for raysr11Send a Private Message to raysr11Direct Link to This Post
Be careful of the liquid filled gauge from Summit. It has a rubber plug in the side where the liquid (oil) is put in and when it gets hot it gets soft and can come out.
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Report this Post11-16-2010 02:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for n_tensetuningSend a Private Message to n_tensetuningDirect Link to This Post
I like Fieroguru's idea of:
unscrewing the shrader valve off the fuel line block, and taking the block off, then drilling/tapping the shrader valve hole for NPT 1/8"

This would eliminate any possibility of fuel leaks caused by using multiple fittings, etc...

Heck, If I could just screw a standard 1.5" liquid filled 0-100psi fuel pressure gauge with straight 1/8"NPT down onto the fuel block without having to use any other fittings, that would be awesome.

However, in looking at past Fuel Press.Gauge posts on Pennocks, looks like everyone had to use (1) 90deg #4an fitting to bring the gauge away from hitting the intake manifold.

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Report this Post11-16-2010 03:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Francis TClick Here to visit Francis T's HomePageSend a Private Message to Francis TDirect Link to This Post
I think it's easier to just tap into the line for cold start as below and then put the gauge where you want it.



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