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Stant Radiator Cap now list a Non-vented Cap! by theogre
Started on: 12-16-2010 01:52 AM
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Report this Post12-16-2010 01:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
That's right Stant has finally fix the Typo!

I've just checked Stant and Advance Auto... both list 10230 and 10330 but Stant web site also list 18231 and it's a vented one so watch it. (Some years have 18231 listed and others don't.)

Old catalogs and web sites still uses old/wrong Stant caps and other brand of cap may have wrong caps to...

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Thanks Oger, is the STANT one the one with that latch on the top, or is it the OEM replacement style one? I've been reluctant to buy a new one (using an old one) simply because of the stuff I've heard about using the wrong one...

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Thanks Oger, is the STANT one the one with that latch on the top, or is it the OEM replacement style one? I've been reluctant to buy a new one (using an old one) simply because of the stuff I've heard about using the wrong one...




Stant makes both, get the one without the latch. Now I don't have to find and write down the part number before I go to Advance anymore.
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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:


Stant makes both, get the one without the latch. Now I don't have to find and write down the part number before I go to Advance anymore.


Why would you get the one without the latch? (I take it you mean lever for releasing pressure before unscrewing the cap)

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

Stant makes both, get the one without the latch. Now I don't have to find and write down the part number before I go to Advance anymore.


Yes but check other part store etc...
TFS still ship wrong one this month to France... see https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/113172.html

 
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Originally posted by cptsnoopy:

Why would you get the one without the latch? (I take it you mean lever for releasing pressure before unscrewing the cap)


I don't.
1. Don't fool with it until coolant system is cold. Even LEV-R-VENT can fail if system is hot.
2. I mess with cap once a year if that... Good system and I check if overflow tank level is good or not.
3. LEV-R-VENT gives me problem in past. Has a nasty habit getting an air leak. Let's air in and won't suck coolant from overflow tank when engine cools off. Some peoples like LEV-R-VENT so whatever...

Caps... see Stant, Advance Auto, or my cave...

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Originally posted by cptsnoopy:


Why would you get the one without the latch? (I take it you mean lever for releasing pressure before unscrewing the cap)

Charlie



Because it looks stock.

That's the only reason for me... I like my cars to look as they might come from the factory. The stant with the lever just looks too aftermarket, even if it is superior. That's the only thing preventing me from getting the Fiero Store Sprint manifolds, as apposed to just ceramic coating my exhaust logs (which have been hogged out)...

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Report this Post12-17-2010 01:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cptsnoopySend a Private Message to cptsnoopyDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the response guys!

I think those are good reasons. I personally have been lucky and I like being able to "burp" the system without having to try and get my hand in there to twist the cap. I was wondering if there was something bad about them but it sounds more like a preference.

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Originally posted by cptsnoopy:

. . . having to try and get my hand in there to twist the cap.

Charlie


A small oil filter strap wrench is a big help in getting the thermostat housing cap on and off. I always use it to make sure the cap is on all the way and sealed.

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Originally posted by cptsnoopy:

I personally have been lucky and I like being able to "burp" the system without having to try and get my hand in there to twist the cap.


If, Big If, you coolant system works right...

The coolant system shouldn't need to burp much, if any, once the system is full. Air in radiator will work itself out 1-3 thermal cycles if rad cap, overflow tank and tube, is sealed. Overflow tank is there for a reason... I never open the rad cap to burp it. I do check overflow tank a couple of time if needs to add coolant.

Like when people say you need to jack car in back/front to fill a totally dry system... No need if system is working. Any air in coolant pipes will be pushed out when engine is started first time.

 
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Originally posted by Jim_Martin29:

A small oil filter strap wrench is a big help in getting the thermostat housing cap on and off. I always use it to make sure the cap is on all the way and sealed.


X100 +
Tstat can be a real pain. Plus put some Brake Grease or any silicone grease on Tstat housing to keep it from rust. I use brake grease on housing any area than Tstat cap covers/touches.

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I had to purchase a new cap for my '85GT late in 2009 and had read in the Ogre's Cave about the catalog error. After getting a new cap, I sent an email to Advance Auto Parts customer service about the catalog error, explaining the situation per what I'd read in the cave. I actually got a phone call from a customer service representative and explained the situation to him. Maybe it did some good.

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Maybe... Very likely is my guess. Some in past have said Stant has not been very helpful. Advance complain to Stant should/would help. Advance Auto buys allot of Stant parts. Thanks to you.

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Ogre, Good Thread. Big Question: Is the cap on the front radiator the same as the cap on the engine where the thermostat goes ?

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No. Tstat is bigger than Radiator.
Tstat in Stant part is a SWIV-ELĀ® cap.

SWIV-EL just means cap is loose on gasket part. Some caps are riveted solid to the gasket part and resist turning on/off. SWIV-EL are much easier to remove/replace the cap.

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Originally posted by theogre:If, Big If, you coolant system works right...

The coolant system shouldn't need to burp much, if any, once the system is full. Air in radiator will work itself out 1-3 thermal cycles if rad cap, overflow tank and tube, is sealed. Overflow tank is there for a reason... I never open the rad cap to burp it. I do check overflow tank a couple of time if needs to add coolant.
I am sure you are right, I just like to have confirmation. After a thermal cycle or two, hearing the excess air and then seeing the coolant flow into the bottle lets me know that there is nothing more to worry about. Unless of course it starts sucking air...

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