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AF2K L32 swap by americasfuture2k
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Report this Post08-12-2010 02:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
Aurora V8?? well hell, i skipped over about 4 of those at pull a part last week. i dont see the adapter offered on there.
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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

Aurora V8?? well hell, i skipped over about 4 of those at pull a part last week. i dont see the adapter offered on there.


You will need to call or email him and ask about it. He told me last week there had been some delays at the machine shop he deals with so I don't know how long it will take to get one made...
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The 2000+ Northstar TB uses an external MAF and different cable hookup system. I don't have any experience with these.

-ryan



I have only used 00+ tb's, and they are a direct fit for V6 throttle cables, as well as being very compact. I used a normal northstar adapter, and I believe it does work with the previous year throttle bodies.

I make my tb adapters to locate the throttlebody where i want it to be usually. They look something like this.

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Report this Post08-12-2010 08:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
ok, got a harness from a 99 bonnie 3800. 20 bux. good find or a waste of 20 bux? found a aurora v8. 97. didnt have the correct torx bit to take it off. looked like a T40...?

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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

ok, got a harness from a 99 bonnie 3800. 20 bux. good find or a waste of 20 bux? found a aurora v8. 97. didnt have the correct torx bit to take it off. looked like a T40...?



I have used a H-body harness, it works but I like the w-body harnesses better.

I think the 99's used the square EV1 connectors for the injectors, but you may have to change them out.
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ive got some newly cleaned L67 injectors to put in place
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taking a closer look at all my rubbers, theyre not as bad as compared to most others ive seen, i should replace them. i might as well replace them now while its easier access to them in some areas. ive been looking at the polyurethane kits. summit has a good one for 97. so theres something else to add to the mix. i keep finding neat things to do to set me back on all this. this is so much fun lol.
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That is usually how it goes. It starts off with, oh, I will do this. Then, oh, I will do that. The next thing you know, you are sleeping on the couch, sucking down Ramen noodles wondering wtf just happened. Stay strong, you will get there.
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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

That is usually how it goes. It starts off with, oh, I will do this. Then, oh, I will do that. The next thing you know, you are sleeping on the couch, sucking down Ramen noodles wondering wtf just happened. Stay strong, you will get there.


lol. its falling asleep in the drivers seat in the garage and having some little ceasers cheap ass pizza and a sorta cold coke. then screaming ah sheet, im late for class!
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Ha, ill admit it.. I fell asleep on the crawler next to my Fiero.
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Report this Post09-24-2010 04:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
so im looking at ordering this clutch and press plate...

SPORT, "KEVLAR" ® SPRUNG HUB CLUTCH DISC KEVLAR®
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=11778&cat=0&page=1

i like this one better than the SPORT, "FIBER-CARBON" SPRUNG HUB CLUTCH DISC since it appears to have more surface area to make contact.

Yellow performance level pressure plate for Pontiac Fiero #19860
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=19860&cat=0&page=1


also, what place could i get the cheapest poly engine/trans mounts that ships when you order it and not a few weeks later?

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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

so im looking at ordering this clutch and press plate...

SPORT, "KEVLAR" ® SPRUNG HUB CLUTCH DISC KEVLAR®
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=11778&cat=0&page=1

i like this one better than the SPORT, "FIBER-CARBON" SPRUNG HUB CLUTCH DISC since it appears to have more surface area to make contact.

Yellow performance level pressure plate for Pontiac Fiero #19860
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=19860&cat=0&page=1


also, what place could i get the cheapest poly engine/trans mounts that ships when you order it and not a few weeks later?


That clutch seems a bit tame for a 3800sc torque monster. Might be good for a stock L32 but will probably slip with a modded motor. I would atleast get the 2X Red pressure plate with that disk. I run their sprung hub 6 puck and 2x red pressure plate on my 3500T. The pedal is a little heavy but it grabs and holds like a mofo. I actually went with the Cavalier setup (8 7/8) for a lighter disk for faster shifts. Holds just fine.

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That clutch seems a bit tame for a 3800sc torque monster. Might be good for a stock L32 but will probably slip with a modded motor. I would at least get the 2X Red pressure plate with that disk. I run their sprung hub 6 puck and 2x red pressure plate on my 3500T. The pedal is a little heavy but it grabs and holds like a mofo. I actually went with the Cavalier setup (8 7/8) for a lighter disk for faster shifts. Holds just fine.

JoeCooley



good points. guess ill go for a hardcore wild setup since i am going to do a lot to the motor. ill look into stepping it up. im just worried about it not being streetable and having to roast the tires leaving every stop light.
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ok, this is what i feel will be good... one thing, what is the difference between the 2x and the 3x press plate?

Red 2X racing level pressure plate for Pontiac Fiero #20815
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=20815&cat=0&page=1

6 button E-Z Lock (sprung hub) clutch for Pontiac Fiero #17905
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=17905&cat=0&page=1

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Report this Post11-08-2010 05:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
do i need that TAC module thing from ZZP for the N* tb on a SCIII? i am thinking i dont since i am going to get the ecm programmed by darth
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AF2K, Did you ever recieve those diagrams I sent your way ? Just makin sure !
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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

do i need that TAC module thing from ZZP for the N* tb on a SCIII? i am thinking i dont since i am going to get the ecm programmed by darth


You don't need the TAC module. You just need the PCM reprogrammed to work with the MAF sensor and throttle body you're using.

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yea, got em mike. thanks! sorry i forgot to reply about that. school takes all from me!

sweet, i thought so. less crap to buy. thanks ryan!
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well, heres the exhaust system im probably going to order. and chop up to fit. gotta play with some numbers first. but oh god im paying a good amount for a sound. an awesome sound.


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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

ok, this is what i feel will be good... one thing, what is the difference between the 2x and the 3x press plate?

Red 2X racing level pressure plate for Pontiac Fiero #20815
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=20815&cat=0&page=1

6 button E-Z Lock (sprung hub) clutch for Pontiac Fiero #17905
http://www.clutchnet.com/pr...d=17905&cat=0&page=1


also what is the difference between a 6 puck and a 3 puck? how is the streetability of the two?
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can i get away with using a 3.4 pulley on a SC3 buy having a tune?
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Report this Post11-27-2010 03:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
my N* TB is hitting the EVAP solenoid... what can i do about this? TB spacer?
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bump

clutchnet clutch came in... almost a month after ordering. geeze. boxes from ZZP, TFS and Rodney Dickman have been flowing in this past month.
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Good job Mike!

I am stuck out here in the middle of the ocean, and I dont think I'll be getting back into the fiero scene for some time. I am into the Y-body gig, and I love my LT-4.

With that said, I still have that 3500 sitting around...

anyways, back on topic...

Mike,

What about the headers man! those are crucial!

What did u decide with the a/c? Got the wiring for the fiero stuff so u can manipulate the 3800's compressor?

Have you considered the changes that need to be made when relocating a MAF? and bends, curves or distance changes from the TB will change the how the MAF reads as compared to stock. You need to try to make it compareable to what was used for the PCM you are using. Otherwise the results could be problematic during tuning and WOT. I know this isnt mentioned much around here, but its something I wish more people would look at.

What about the air filter and inlet tube? What are your plans there?

What pulley are you going to run?

Are you considering an aftercooler?


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Report this Post11-29-2010 02:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
headers i will probably get some v6 pusstang headers and modify those to follow the fiero flow path. or build my own when i have a real garage and not this apartment one car shtuff.

for the ac, i will use a zzp delete pulley till i get around to doing the ac.

all the MAF stuff will be taken care of (im assuming) when i order a PCM from darth.

the air filter and tube, i am gonna use that CRX 3" intake pipe i had on the 3500.

the pulley i have is a 3.4 from zzp. if i start seeing knock running on some 93, ill go to a 3.5. im sure i can run a 3.4 with a CAI and some headers and 93 or higher.

not gonna do an aftercooler. im gonna turbo this motor, so no need wasting money on more supercharger mods.

btw, you dont have that 3500 sitting around. i do. in the corner of my garage. waiting for you to fix it and toss it on a go kart frame. or a put it in a motorcycle frame.

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sprayed all of the engine bay in Rustoleum Ultra High Heat Semi-Gloss Black



had the 282 torn down for a reconditioning, got the casing back to get powder coated


all is gonna be coated in this matte black as show here on the coaters sample coat job on these springs. left is high gloss black, right is matte black
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is there any interference with the pacesetter headers and the getrag slave or shift/select cables? i searched nad didnt find anything. just wanting to double check.
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any comments?
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got my getrag casing pieces back from being powdercoated and took them to the trans shop so it can be reassembled.


also got a new VSS and painted it to match
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got my trans back from being powder coated and reconditioned.


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more is coming. too busy to post updates. car will drive the last day of this month.
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That transmission sure looks nice. Now be good to it and don't break it!

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thanks. ill try. its gotta last till i can afford the f40 or whatever that 5speed equiv is. same thing will be done to that one too.
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Any updates? Got it bolted together yet?
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made some headshields for the coil-on-plug conversion. just need to finish the wiring and repair the firewall then i can toss er in, hook up the coolant lines, plug all the wires n stuff in and see what doesnt work haha. really need this 100+ degree heat to go away for a minute. my garage reaches 113

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Yeah. I haven't been able to get much done on my swap either, due to the heat. Hopefully will get the trans bell housing cut, and the short block back together soon though.
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So I scrapped the coil on plug idea. After test fitting the engine, the heatshields were taking up too much room and the front side coils would have way too much recirculating heat and the ending result would be failed coils. Too much to go thru on a car im going to daily drive.

Built my harness and loomed it with the expandable sleeving and weather sealed heatshrink tubing. Gotta finish the on car wiring such as the C500 and the C203 once its in the car.

I have new parking brake cables, shift/select cables and throttle cable that still need to be installed. Along with the oil tube/dipstick mod everyone will see shorty.

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