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which ECM to use on a 3.4pr swap? by snakeskinner1
Started on: 02-17-2011 02:13 AM
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i am doing a 3.4pr swap on an 86se, and i have a spare 85gt ecm laying around. should i use it instead of my factory 86 ecm? i have heard that the 85 with the nock sensor works better? will the factory work or is it never going to run right without a tuned ecm? anyone burn a chip for this swap or is it more of an individual car thing? i am installing a mild cam (engle cam from west coast), 1.6 rockers and polished and ported intakes/heads.... everything else basically stock. thanks in advanced!
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Report this Post02-17-2011 03:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RamsesprideSend a Private Message to RamsesprideDirect Link to This Post
You should be able to get away with the stock ECM with that cam, however you wont be able to fully utilize the increase in power it may provide without a tune to meet it. A good but timely ecm is the 7730 ecm.

In any case, give the stock one a try and if you need something better im sure someone here will pipe in with the pros and cons of the vendors
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Report this Post02-17-2011 06:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
I would do the 7730 ecm upgrade. and Ryan can burn you a chip for a very reasonable price. More if you got the wrong ECM and he needs to order a memcal for the correct application.

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Originally posted by snakeskinner1:

i am doing a 3.4pr swap on an 86se, and i have a spare 85gt ecm laying around. should i use it instead of my factory 86 ecm? i have heard that the 85 with the nock sensor works better? will the factory work or is it never going to run right without a tuned ecm? anyone burn a chip for this swap or is it more of an individual car thing? i am installing a mild cam (engle cam from west coast), 1.6 rockers and polished and ported intakes/heads.... everything else basically stock. thanks in advanced!


None of the Fiero ECMs have a knock sensor.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:


None of the Fiero ECMs have a knock sensor.


i always heard the 85ecm did??
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I believe the 85 computer had to ability to wire in a knock sensor. I had one for turbo kit i was going to do.
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85 2.8 Fiero's were not equipped with a knock sensor. The base programming is there and the ECM could be re-programmed to use one. You would be further ahead to use a 7730 ECM and knock sensor . The 7730 operates on a much faster cycle eliminating the pulsing idle. The 7730 is much more tune-able.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

85 2.8 Fiero's were not equipped with a knock sensor. The base programming is there and the ECM could be re-programmed to use one. You would be further ahead to use a 7730 ECM and knock sensor . The 7730 operates on a much faster cycle eliminating the pulsing idle. The 7730 is much more tune-able.


what car does the 7730 come out of? or do you get these new?
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Originally posted by snakeskinner1:

i am doing a 3.4pr swap on an 86se, and i have a spare 85gt ecm laying around. should i use it instead of my factory 86 ecm? i have heard that the 85 with the nock sensor works better? will the factory work or is it never going to run right without a tuned ecm? anyone burn a chip for this swap or is it more of an individual car thing? i am installing a mild cam (engle cam from west coast), 1.6 rockers and polished and ported intakes/heads.... everything else basically stock. thanks in advanced!


To answer your question.
Either of the ECMs will work just fine and should run the same way too. Yes the 85 ECM can use a knock sensor, but you have to wire one in and turn it on in the code. Otherwise the code is basicly the same between the two. Different code masks but the same parameters and pin outs.


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Report this Post02-18-2011 02:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for snakeskinner1Send a Private Message to snakeskinner1Direct Link to This Post
thanks for the info guys! i think im going to try my stock 86ecm and see how it goes before i dive into the electronics world and start rewiring everything
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Report this Post02-18-2011 02:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoDirect Link to This Post
I used the stock 86 se 2.8 ecm on my 3.4 swap. no problems at all.
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