About to give up after 8 years of trying to find a vintage set of wide body Centerline Q series rims for my DGP Fiero.
Does anyone know, or have experience with a CNC shop and know if they would/could be able to take one of my Standard Fiero Centerline Q series rims from my Indy, pull an auto cad from it and then duplicate it with the deeper offset I need for my DGP?
Or is it possible to have someone break the weld on the Centerlines I have and re-attach the rim centers to a deeper dish outter rim?
I am sure the cost will be high, but at this point I am not confident I can get a set on the car any other way.
here is the set I have on my indy:
and this is the set I want on my car:
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infinitewill Member
Posts: 2343 From: Overland Park, KS U.S.A. Registered: Mar 2009
Yeah, I thought i might hit a roadblock trying to get a shop to actually duplicate another design. That is why I am hoping that if I can find a shop that can pull the wheel centers out of a set that I have and somehow remount them into a different outter rim for the offset I need that it would not be a legal issue as it would be modifying something custom rather than copying.
just like a shop doing a chop on a new car or flared fenders. they aren't duplicating the whole car with wider fenders, which would be a legal issue (not to mention a waste of money, just an example). Just modifying it using the existing parts.
I have no idea if it is possible to cut and grind the welds off and not hammer the centers without ruining their ability to be reattached and balanced again. Perhaps If I removed a center myself and then take it into a CNC/custom rims shop and asked them, "Hey, can you take these centers I have and mount, weld, and blanace them with this offset on a set of new outters?"
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FieroMonkey Member
Posts: 3294 From: poway,CA,USA Registered: Nov 2002
It may sound crazy. But in my head I can see myself carefully cutting the center from a 2 - 3 piece rim and then mounting the center on a rear hub of a car. putting it in gear, letting it rotate at idle. and then mounting an anchored lathe style adjustable grinder arm similar to a brake rotor lathe and then taking out the rough spots where the rim has been cut away and smoothing it out to the right size needed. making it a useable center for a new outer rim...
similar to this video: skip to 1:29 ( i would use an anchored tool, not hand held) am I crazy from 8 years of failed searching. or does someone think this might actually work?
They can build wheels to order. I don't see any reason that they couldn't crank out a set to your specs. Since the also do repair work, they might be able to reuse your centers.
I used to have links to several different companies who could widen wheels. I'll keep looking.
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FieroMonkey Member
Posts: 3294 From: poway,CA,USA Registered: Nov 2002
They can build wheels to order. I don't see any reason that they couldn't crank out a set to your specs. Since the also do repair work, they might be able to reuse your centers.
I used to have links to several different companies who could widen wheels. I'll keep looking.
Fantastic! Thanks Raydar!!
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infinitewill Member
Posts: 2343 From: Overland Park, KS U.S.A. Registered: Mar 2009
You didn't Hijack at all, you and I are having the same issue; We need custom wheels with special conditions. I will need to pull one of the Centerlines I have off because I can not remember if they are 2 piece or 3 piece, and whether or not the centers were welded or if the rivets are real or show. It would be awesome if they can be pulled apart, but i wont get my hopes up.
You are right though, the centers are the important part. The outers are pretty common as far as size and availability.
I have tried a few times contacting Centerline and they never reply. Even if they can not help me, it would be nice to at least get a response.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
I had custom made Ferrari replica wheels made by a company in Utah. They would make any offset you wanted, I dont know about using yours. I know mine were two piece rim/center and were welded together. Maybe someone else on here can remember the name so you can contact them. I had rears made and added 2" depth to fronts and 4" to rears. They were about $400 each in machined aluminum and with their centers.
These are the Ferrari ones, I also had a set the same way but with Lambo centers for my Diablo.
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E.Furgal Member
Posts: 11708 From: LAND OF CONFUSION Registered: Mar 2012
I had custom made Ferrari replica wheels made by a company in Utah. They would make any offset you wanted, I dont know about using yours. I know mine were two piece rim/center and were welded together. Maybe someone else on here can remember the name so you can contact them. I had rears made and added 2" depth to fronts and 4" to rears. They were about $400 each in machined aluminum and with their centers.
These are the Ferrari ones, I also had a set the same way but with Lambo centers for my Diablo.
Those look really good in quality, design and offset. Hopefully someone will pipe in who knows the name of the company.
Price seems very reasonable as well.
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FieroMonkey Member
Posts: 3294 From: poway,CA,USA Registered: Nov 2002
I tried them a few times over the last 8 years and never got a reply from them.
Did they have auto-cad in the early 80's (when they made these wheels)?
If not, it is possible they have no data in which to input into a computer the design of the rim and they figure I am a potential customer dead end. still a reply would have been nice
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
They were listed in one of the old Fiero custom vendors catalogs if anyone has one. Thats how I found them.
Might it have been the "Big Fiero Parts Book"? I think the book was sold by Pisa, but it had damn near everybody in it. Archie, FOCOA, Design One, Rodney, The Fiero Factory, Corson, etc... I have had several of those over the years, and can probably still lay hands one one.
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I think thats the catalog Raydar. I know I had that one. They were in there advertising to make custom to order wheels for Fiero relica cars. They are bolt on Fiero pattern.
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E.Furgal Member
Posts: 11708 From: LAND OF CONFUSION Registered: Mar 2012
I tried them a few times over the last 8 years and never got a reply from them.
Did they have auto-cad in the early 80's (when they made these wheels)?
If not, it is possible they have no data in which to input into a computer the design of the rim and they figure I am a potential customer dead end. still a reply would have been nice
try calling them.. they had what I needed on the shelf and it was a old wheel
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Aug 15th, 2012
blackrams Member
Posts: 32784 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
Well, I responded to your Mall request and I emailed you pics and I've gotten no response so, I guess you aren't interested in the Centerlines I have. 8 inch in the front, 10 inch for the rear, all are 16 inch wheels. A response (either way) would have been appreciated.
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Aug 16th, 2012
FieroMonkey Member
Posts: 3294 From: poway,CA,USA Registered: Nov 2002
Have been having one hell of a week, but i thought I would get a little more than 48 hours after receiving your pics before ironic posts started. Please check you emails for my reply, and again thank you for sending me the pics. I apologize for the delay and will try to respond faster to your replies from now on.