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Axle lengths?? by NightMare Cruiser
Started on: 10-24-2012 11:47 PM
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Report this Post10-24-2012 11:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NightMare CruiserSend a Private Message to NightMare CruiserDirect Link to This Post
I'm doing my 3800 sc swap. I bought a "custom" PASS axle from someone on here. I installed it today and found it too short. the axle measures about 24.5 inches long and the middle part of the axle (case to hub) is about 16.5 inches. When I measure the distance from the trans to the hub I get about 18 inches. So thats about 1.5 inches too short. When I tried to install it the one boot started to get stretched out. I'm using FieroX mounts. the Driver side fits fine. Could the seller have sent me a axle thats too short?? My cradle is from a 1987 4cyl with the uni-mount (now cut off). How long should the PASS axle be?
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Report this Post10-24-2012 11:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
I have always used a Fiero drivers side axle with a GTP passenger inner tripot on it and it has worked with FieroX mounts, Transport Van mounts, WCF mounts, and my own home made mounts. Though I couldnt tell you the measured length.

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Report this Post10-25-2012 12:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for NightMare CruiserSend a Private Message to NightMare CruiserDirect Link to This Post
I email the seller to get their take on this? Good thing I saved my old Dr side axle
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Report this Post10-25-2012 09:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
You always measure CV axle overall length compressed from both extreme ends. Here is the info that might help. There is NO one size fits all axle for all 3800 installs.
My 3800SC/4T65eHD powertrain is centered and uses two equal length CV axles. I forget the exact forumula that my axle shop used but the following may help.

CV Compressed Axle total lengths axle on bench, pushed together and measured end to end
Fiero Manual driver side 21"
1995 Beretta (all trans) 20 1/4" drivers side 21 1/4" passenger side
(1995 Corsica also uses the same axles)
1995 TranSport auto 20 1/4 " drivers side 23.3/8" Passenger side
1998 Lumina 3.8 (auto) 20 3/8" driver side
1998-up Grand Prix Drivers (auto) 21 7/8" drivers side
2002-2004 Cavalier (auto) 21 3/16: drivers side.

By the chart I assume that the 1995 TranSport or Lumina axles should be the ones used if you center your powertrain and change the outer CV joint to Fiero manual units and the inner passenger side to the GTP tripot.

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Report this Post11-04-2012 09:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NightMare CruiserSend a Private Message to NightMare CruiserDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Dennis. Whats most people using for legnth? I have a offer for a 25.5 axle.
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