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Alternator rebuild kits any good? by James Bond 007
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Report this Post02-05-2013 11:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
Anybudy ever buy a Alternator rebuild kit? Are then any good? Im browseing ebay and considering buying a kit.
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Report this Post02-05-2013 11:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
cost vs new alt.? New '88 V6 alternator is about $70 from Amazon (on average). Rock auto would be another place to check.
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Originally posted by jaskispyder:

cost vs new alt.? New '88 V6 alternator is about $70 from Amazon (on average). Rock auto would be another place to check.


Yea, not much more to buy one allready rebuilt.
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Report this Post02-05-2013 12:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
I bought an alternator rebuild kit for an 88 CS130 alternator, didn't work. With the earlier SI alternators, it's cheap to just replace the worn out parts individually, at minimum the bearings if they're original, and the brush holder, voltage regulator, and diode trio. I'd trust one I rebuilt myself over one rebuilt by Chinese children.
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Report this Post02-05-2013 12:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hobbywrenchSend a Private Message to hobbywrenchDirect Link to This Post
About 15 years ago I put in a diode kit and no problem since. I will look to see if I kept details although it's ancient history now.

OK found the record from 1999, schucks auto, bubble pak $13.80 contained diode trio and voltage regulator. Instruction sheet Delco Remy DR-7066. There are 8 types of alternators on the instructions. I made a pencil drawing of the inside before disassemble. It looks to be the picture of 10-SI,12-SI, Series 100 type in the instructions. The fact that I made a pencil drawing tells me you should take a pic before installing the kit, if available. Mine is 85 GT orig alt. I had a dim bat lite on dash. No problem since. No bearing installed. I did not note the alt pn.

Edit: My alt has original 85 bearings (130K). Only a suggestion. Make sure the V6 alt heatshield is in place near the exhaust header. Do not overtension the belt. I like mine just tighter than "screech."

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Report this Post02-05-2013 01:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Marvin McInnisClick Here to visit Marvin McInnis's HomePageSend a Private Message to Marvin McInnisDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by James Bond 007:

Anybudy ever buy a Alternator rebuild kit?



Yes, but I prefer to use a good local rebuilder whenever possible.


 
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Are then any good?



1) I would not buy such an item from eBay. Try your local auto parts store.

2) Do you have the proper knowledge? Do you have a detailed manual?

3) Do you have the proper tools? Do you have the tools to press out and replace the bearings without damaging them?

4) Keep things scrupulously clean. You must work carefully and methodically. (Your carelessness with spelling does not convey a habit of attention to detail.)

5) Minor wear on the slip rings can usually be polished out with crocus cloth. If the slip rings are worn, galled, or corroded they will need to be turned down on a lathe. You probably won't be able to do this yourself.

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Report this Post02-05-2013 05:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
I might take a chance,AC Delco rebuild kit.
http://stores.ebay.com/s-an...tml?_fsub=2297959014


Anybudy know if the bearings are pressed in?

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Report this Post02-05-2013 07:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Might check this place out. I was thinking my Intrepid Alt was going out and might try them.

http://rebuilderinabox.com/

My reason is so much of the rebuild stuff is cr@p...

My Ram pickup I had to go through 4 starters before I got a good one. Intrepid 2 of them. Starters should be easier to rebuild then Alts.

But when they are being done in some 3d or 2nd world country who knows...

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007, ebay vendor "triodiode", kit "3 wire repair", $14.95
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Report this Post02-05-2013 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhirewireSend a Private Message to PhirewireDirect Link to This Post
I wouldn't rebuild. I'd buy one from local auto parts store with lifetime warranty. Alt will outlast the car most likely.
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Originally posted by James Bond 007:
Anybudy ever buy a Alternator rebuild kit? Are then any good? Im browseing ebay and considering buying a kit.

Buy parts on Ebay? Good luck. Ebay is full of Counterfeit parts etc.

You can get quality parts, learn how to install them right way, etc, and maybe they will last.

Suggest you go to AZ or Advance, someplace that honors their warranty. (Not PepBoys) Buy Lifetime product an be done w/ the job.
I replace a starter at AZ I bought 10+ years ago and they did it under warranty... You do have to remember phone # that all. (I moved and change #'s...)

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Report this Post02-06-2013 10:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
I would say that you have a 50% chance of rebuiding your alternator successfully. An alternator can be rebuilt but often the field coil winding is burned open. In this case the rebuild kit will not work. This job is best left to a qualified rebuilder.

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Report this Post02-06-2013 10:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

I would say that you have a 50% chance of rebuiding your alternator successfully. An alternator can be rebuilt but often the field coil winding is burned open. In this case the rebuild kit will not work. This job is best left to a qualified rebuilder.



Alternator works fine,but the car has 148,000 miles on it so its probubley going to go soon.
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Originally posted by James Bond 007:
Alternator works fine,but the car has 148,000 miles on it so its probubley going to go soon.

That miles anything can go wrong... Bearings, regulator, diodes,,,

If cars has SI alt then read CS upgrade...
See my Cave, CS Alternator
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Report this Post02-07-2013 01:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lou_diasSend a Private Message to lou_diasDirect Link to This Post
I have done the CS upgrade to my 87 using an 88 alternator. Works great, just splice in the new connector.
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Report this Post02-07-2013 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoDirect Link to This Post
9 out of 10 times, the only thing that goes wrong with ant alternatoer is the DIODE pack goes bad ($7) locally.(very easy to put in). If you are hell bent on replacing everything" whether it needs it or not", just buy a "Rebuilt".
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Report this Post02-07-2013 01:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Lou6t4gto:
9 out of 10 times, the only thing that goes wrong with ant alternatoer is the DIODE pack goes bad ($7) locally.(very easy to put in). If you are hell bent on replacing everything" whether it needs it or not", just buy a "Rebuilt".

Maybe for SI...
If you have OE CS130 in any 80's early 90's models, common problem is Rear bearing goes bad.
New and Good brands of rebuilt uses stronger bearings...
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Report this Post02-07-2013 08:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for raysr11Send a Private Message to raysr11Direct Link to This Post
I've been running an '88 type alternator that I rebuilt for over 2 years now.
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Originally posted by theogre:

Maybe for SI...
If you have OE CS130 in any 80's early 90's models, common problem is Rear bearing goes bad.
New and Good brands of rebuilt uses stronger bearings...


My AC Delco rebuilt's rear bearing lasted 2 years. Bosch, so far so good...
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