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The Highly Criticized 86 GT 2.8 Supercharger Build starring NYRANGER6830 by nyranger6830
Started on: 04-14-2013 05:40 PM
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Last post by: nyranger6830 on 06-16-2013 09:41 AM
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Report this Post06-14-2013 09:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hookdonspeedClick Here to visit hookdonspeed's HomePageSend a Private Message to hookdonspeedDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Don't know if this helps, but looking at this, it made me think... maybe you don't even need to modify the intake plenum. Is there any reason why you wouldn't simply just want to mount the supercharger on top of the intake manifold, and just eliminate the runners and the plenum all together?

This would solve much of your engine height issues... I'm not even remotely an expert, but it seems like the intake runners don't really serve much use when you're using a supercharger anyway. Just a thought!



thats been an issue with 2.8's and superchargers, a custom lower manifold would need to be designed and have a custom fuel rail, or somehow use the existing one that sits below the upper plenum. without redesigning the whole lower/middle section, the only thing he could have done would be to cut a hole in the top of the plenium. from what i understand 'tuning' would be easier if he did that, as he is using a roots style charger in a centrifugal setup (TB After the charger), i also am no "expert" ont his, but i did ALOT of research when i was wanting to put an M90 on my 3500 LX9.
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Report this Post06-14-2013 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
We've been through this before... and I researched this carefully in 2003 before I decided to install a Vortech centrifugal S/C instead.

The 60 degree V6 is so narrow between the heads that the S/C takes up the entire space when you try to mount it directly to the lower manifold - there's no room left for fuel rails on both sides.

The only other option I thought may work would be a "side-draft TBI" mounted on the input end of the S/C, THEN mount it to blow down into the lower intake.

EDIT: it seems there's no such thing as a "side-draft" TBI. BUT you can mount a TBI sideways (who knew?).
So mounting a 2-injector TBI on the end and having the fuel blow through the S/C would keep everything low.

Here a fellow changed a side-draft carb engine to side mounted TBI (used a GM 2.5 TBI unit to boot) and running it with Megasquirt.
http://www.peachparts.com/s...-b-i-conversion.html

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Report this Post06-14-2013 09:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for nyranger6830Send a Private Message to nyranger6830Direct Link to This Post
WHY IS EVERYONE STUCK ON HOW TO MOUNT THE DAMN THING! ITS MOUNTED, THE BELT SETUP IS DONE!! IM IN THE FINAL STAGES HERE!

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Originally posted by bcampbell:

I don't think your ECM is capable of 8192 baud rate; have you tried loading the correct adx file and connecting to the ECM?


Hey I was on gearhead, and I was able to locate the 1226869 $24A .bin and .xdf files but they don't have the .adl and .xdf files. Would you happen to have them or would know where else I can look?

Nevermind I found them!

BIN and TunerPro Definitions:
http://www.gearhead-efi.com...-ECM-Information-24A

Tunerpro Bin Definition and Datastream Definition
http://www.tunerpro.net/downloadBinDefs.htm


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I think the tunerpro website has the right definition files.
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Originally posted by bcampbell:

I think the tunerpro website has the right definition files.


Did 2 datalog sessions at idle. I would've done one long one but for some reason DA got disconnected and started throwing error codes. I have the files if anyone wants to look over them

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these masks may be a little more complete....

http://www.gearhead-efi.com...-ECM-Information-24A

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Originally posted by nyranger6830:

WHY IS EVERYONE STUCK ON HOW TO MOUNT THE DAMN THING! ITS MOUNTED, THE BELT SETUP IS DONE!! IM IN THE FINAL STAGES HERE!



because others are interested in doing things like this, but dont want the chargers sticking threw the decklid...

instead of getting upset that people are discussing your mods and giving you help, you should be be glad people are interested in it.
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Report this Post06-15-2013 02:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MaxCubesSend a Private Message to MaxCubesDirect Link to This Post
Do you have that supercharger whine with you floor it?
or is it quiet
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Report this Post06-16-2013 03:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bcampbellSend a Private Message to bcampbellDirect Link to This Post
If you have some tunerpro datalogs I'd be interested in taking a look
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Report this Post06-16-2013 09:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for nyranger6830Send a Private Message to nyranger6830Direct Link to This Post
Haven't really floored yet but you can definitely hear it! OK do you have an email address for me to send them to you?

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