Well, it's not perfect as it is. I mentioned earlier that there's a little starvation around 5500 rpm. The upper plenum and t/b I don't think are substantial enough to support the intake needs of the cam. Thus my thoughts about going with a carb and low rise intake. Don't really wanna part with the cash for a new fuel injection setup right now.

The suspension is sweet;
*lowered about 2" all around shorter/stiffer springs
*Koni adjustable shocks- set tight
*Heavy sway bars f & r (w/ poly bushings)
late model 15" GT rims w/Dunlop GT's..225/50/15's f & r
plus a couple other secret tweaks including custom alignment settings from a local shop.
This is without a doubt the most predictable, enjoyable car I've ever driven. Have YET to find ANYTHING that can hang with me on some of these twisty roads around here.
There's no hint of the pushing that seems to be so common in Fiero's. Wheee! A simple flick of the throttle will correct whatever ails ya! THE only problem is, This car can easily run the sump dry on exit ramps and such, so I have to keep an eye on the pressure gauge to make sure the accumulator is keeping up.

Next is new paint, and some interior stuff. Oh yeah, I shortened the shifter about 3" too and installed a Hurst Tee handle. It took some getting used to, but what a nice feel once I did!

Do you know of anyone that sells the graphite impregnated polyurethane bushings?
Have you tried a little caster in the rear?
Helps the adhesion a little.
What kind of springs did you use?
Tried a couple brands about 5 years ago,they pushed,bumped all over,sounds like yours work a little better.
Once set up to give a smile every time you drive,it's hard not to get hooked on these cars.All the modifications are pretty cheap when compared to what other(few)cars that can deliver this kind of driving enjoyment.

LowCG, here is an URL for those bushings, good stuff.

http://www.suspension.com/fiero-prothane.htm

Hey LowCG,
Yeah, I considered a baffled widage pan, but thought the accumulator would be better, since it's sustained hard cornering that empties the oil pan, I figured even a baffled windage would allow the oil to seep eventually. Did you know the stock 84 Fiero delivered something like .87 G's right from the factory? (don't recall the exact number, but it was pretty high) I about crapped when I saw the number. I can only imagine what these things do modified.......

Hey guys, Im new and intersted in a 87 Fiero GT (Stock)and was wondering approx. how many HP it has thanx 4 the help

I have seen all you people writing about how great you Fiero is, well let me tell you something, my Mustang could blow any Fiero away, any, period. I have not been beat yet, and don't plan on it. Also, I read about some guy who said he couls have beat a mustang but someone got in front of him. Is he kidding? Does he really think that his puny little Fiero matches up to my 351 modified? I really don't think so. If he wants, I will be glad to blow him off the map. Also, don't post something that you can't back up. MUSTANGS RULE, FIERO'S DROOL!!!

Go away troll boy aka Mustang Man. Your post here is to just start truoble. And since that was your intention then yor not welcome. If you would like to contribute some positve info about the Fiero that can help others then you can stay cause that is the purpose of the board.

I think we were comparing stock cars so your car is not in question here but if you want to start throwing in engine swaps then your mustang will lose to the Fiero. Back in 87 there were 7 second qtr mile Fieros at the tracks. I have documentation of it so don't call me a liar. I know your 351 does not run 7 sec ond qtr mile. At best I would say mid 12's but I guess you could fill us in on what it does run. And if that is all you run in your 351 V8 then that is sad. Cause there are modified 2.8 V6's out there running low 13's. Hell I am running 14.4 and all I did was add a 70 shot of nitrous on a stock engine with an auto tranny and I am running faster then some 99 COBRAS and many mustangs in general. So there. With a manual i would be in the 13's for sure. Now add a 350 to a Fiero and it will run 12's easy and have awesome off line traction without drag slicks even. Now I am not trying to defend the Fiero here too much but get a life and do some research and then come back and I am sure you will have a differenct perspective on the performance possibilities of the Fiero.

Go away troll boy, go away. Your not wanted here if that is what you are going to contribute to this board.

I suggest no one else respond to this thread cause this guy is just trying to get a rise out of us so I say we be better people and not let that happen.

GM rules and Ford druels is more like it!!!!

So what?

Hey guys..

Mustang Man: Your just mad you havent had the pleasure to drive a fiero.

I am getting ready to purchase an 85 GT with 2.8 engine.. the motor is knocking...
I am planning on rebuilding the stock engine.. What kind of horser power would be expected with just the stock motor..without any modifications.. and what kind would be expected with everything modified.. Such as the cam, crank , lifter , and so on...

I would appreciate any info... thanks guys..
chris...

Hey Chris,

If you peek up the thread a few posts, you'll see the list of mods I made, and what the expected HP is. I'd say it's a pretty educated guess. The cam specs are listed along with everything else.....have fun!

Stock V6 hp is rated at 140 (85 & 86) and 135 (87 & 88). Only explanation I've ever seen for the 5 hp reduction is "more current data." Since there was no power-robbing modification made to the V6 between 86 and 87, my guess is that Pontiac was making a weak effort at reducing insurance rates (?). I think Ford did the same with the 5.0 Mustang sometime in the early 90's, reducing hp from 225 to 215. But I digress.

Probably the worst example of a factory-underrated engine was the turbo 3.8 Buick in the Grand National and T/A. I want to think they rated it at something like 240 hp, but all the car mags said they made more than that at the rear wheels, let alone on an engine dyno. But I digress again. I'll defer to guys like Shawn and Taiji for hp with engine mods. Damn, I'm windy.

thanks chadman and Taijiguy...

I just wanted an idea of what horsepower to expect...

thanks guys...
chris

This is weird that our visitor has only 1 post and is considered a "member". I thought with only 1 post he would be a "junior member" Is there something fishy going on here? I sure hope that a current member isn't just trying to get something started.

thanx, anyone have their car supercharged? Any guess as to the HP then?

Anybody but me wonder why a Mustang enthusiast with a modified 351 would be hanging around a primarily V6 forum anyway? I wonder if he's quite as boisterous in forums directed at Vettes, or Barracuda's, or other serious V8 muscle cars.......? Just an observation......LOL

Hey Taiji, what's that you're saying about this being "a primarily V6 forum"?

You realize you've just insulted all of the proud Fiero owners at this forum who have a 2.5L 4-banger.

Thems fightin' woids!!!

Now those are the kind of mental midgets I like to run across at there when I'm cruising in my Batmobile. I guess Mr. Rustang don't realize that some of us Fiero nuts have V8's in our little plastic mobiles (hehehe).

One thing I know for sure, Fieros will always be worth more money than any 5.0 Mustang. There are millions of 5.0s out there and its a common eye sore. Those Mustangs are so ugly too. A friend of mine has a 5.0 Mustang and is very proud of it. I respect his feelings for his 5.0, and he respects mine for my FieroGT. BTW, he loves my car. 8-) along with many others.

Hopefully, the day will come that wustang boy will roll up on a Fiero at a red light, and not recognize the growl of the Small Block v8 under the hood. He'll look back to his post on this forum as he is admiring the Pontiac logo on the back of the car and wonder how that Fiero got ahead of him.

If Fiero's will be worth more money than a Mustang then why don't they make them anymore? I give the Fiero some credit, they are fast, but they just don't match up to a Mustang. I also read about if I went up to a red light and pulled beside a Fiero and wanted to race, that I wouldn't know that he had a V8 under the hood. Can I let you guys in on a little secret? I ALSO HAVE A V8! Isn't that amazing? Who would have thought that a Mustang would also have a V8? Before you guys post a response, read the facts. MUSTANGS RULE AND FIERO'S DROOL!!!!!

Hey Pat, sorry, didn't mean to get you 4 banger owners' panties in a bunch....Geeze! <LOL>

I probably shouldn't have said anything about the Ford owner. Let 'em have thier delusions of grandeur. Those of us who have stood victorious, pooping on the hoods of blue oval bearing vehicles know the truth. And by his own admission, the antagonist from the other side of the tracks has never confronted a Fiero, especially the likes of the Batmobile, the TJGuy grocerygetter, or any other of notable mention. And even IF he was to somehow squeek past one of us in a straight run, the true element of our favorite little hotrod is on the hills and dales and curves and turns of our great country, where we would no doubt leave him to ponder the meaning of life, as we vanish into the sunset.

Colorful, huh?

There might be a Pantera forum somewhere for that Ford guy who got lost and wound up here.Mid engined cars are great,a lot more fun than a modified Fairmont,even if they too have V8s.

Mustang Man is right - the fastest Mustangs will always be faster than the fastest Fieros. Unless the road turns, in which case Mustang Man's flimsy Fairmont-based chassis won't allow him to corner at anything more than .79 g. That assumes that his lousy Ford brakes have allowed him to scrub off enough speed to keep from sailing off into the woods. Oh, and I hope he doesn't drive in the winter, or Mustang Man's Dearborn rocketship will quickly turn itself into a pile of iron oxide.

I think I have a tear in my eye.....

Glad I could help you come to terms with your issues buddy. <LOL>

"...you get a dictionary, and tell me what this "closure" is...."

The reason why they are worth more is because they DONT make them anymore. They are more sought after. Mustang Man, you must have some kind of interest in Fieros to be visiting a Fiero site. It just doesnt sound right. Do you? Be honest.

Ok Mudstain Boy, enough is enough. I guess that I will have to put away my 4cyl fiero and unleash the mighty Civic on you. I cant say that my Fiero would out run you (except maybe on a tank of fuel) but there is no doubt in my mind that my gremlin looking hatchback would take you. And even if you out run me or any of my v6 friends- BIG DEAL! Wow, you might beat us with a car with an engine more than 3 times bigger than that in my Honda and about twice the size of the 2.8 in the fiero. BIG DEAL if you out run us, but WHEN, not IF, we take you, I would like to see the look on your face when you get smacked by a plastic car with a sewing machine motor. Nevermind, I dont even have to start my car and I already have you beat.

.....Mudstain...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!

My friend has a rocket ship mustang. I do not know the actual specs on it, but I KNOW my stock v6 wouldnt have a chance against it (maybe with a turbo and NOS).
But one major factor is handling.
I had a 2.5litre plymouth sundance. My friend was bragging about his pony from hell, and I decided to shut him up.
I baited him and told him by 4 banger could beat his mustang. He said it would never happen, so I continued to bait him. Finally he agreed, but I insisted on choosing the track. I chose a very twisty country road, which had a large straight away for about a mile at the end.
The entire course was about 3-4 miles.
Now he got in front of me off the line, but after that first twist he was behind me. All the horsepower in the world couldnt save him.
Finally after all the twists were done, I still won the race (it was closer than I thought it would have been).
The same opponent raced me later in his mid 80's dodge charger shelby 2.2 turbo on the same course.
I won again in a slightly inferior car that time so I guess there was one thing going for me.