Pennock's Fiero Forum
  General Fiero Chat - Archive
  Help me decipher the tach filter.. :)

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


Help me decipher the tach filter.. :) by JohnnyK
Started on: 04-05-2001 05:56 PM
Replies: 14
Last post by: Ken Wittlief on 04-26-2001 01:24 PM
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 05:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post

Help me decipher this pleace.. I understand the in and out, but what are the electronics that go downwards in that picture? Shouldn't it all be inline? It IS just some sort of resistor, isn't it?
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
Mark
Member
Posts: 1097
From: Pittsburgh, Pa.
Registered: Jul 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 51
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 06:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MarkSend a Private Message to MarkDirect Link to This Post
The schematic is shown correctly. The component in the center and connected to ground is a capacitor. Capacitors pass high frequency (AC) current and block direct current.
IP: Logged
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 07:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
One other problem. How do i know which wire is going in and which wire is going out? I don't really have the thing connected at the moment, so there is just the plug sitting near the engine. Thanks
IP: Logged
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 07:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post

JohnnyK

11290 posts
Member since Mar 2000
I'm trying to think of how I could solder that all up and turn it into a neat little package..
IP: Logged
StuGood
Member
Posts: 3172
From: Wichita, KS, USA
Registered: Jun 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 68
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 08:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StuGoodSend a Private Message to StuGoodDirect Link to This Post
Look at the picture on Rodney Dickman's page, of the replacement tach filter he sells. Now that's a nice, neat package.

The loop terminal is for the ground, I suspect. You connect it to ground (for example, under a screw attached to a clean place on the engine or metal part of the body.

IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 11808
From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 699
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 08:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockDirect Link to This Post
Be aware that that schematics shows the tach-filter for the L4, not the V6. On the V6, it really doesn't do much. I've build a lot of replacement tach-filters myself and they look the same as the original. I still have to post the instructions for that one day.
IP: Logged
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-05-2001 08:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
Yeah, this is for the i4.. What do you mean it doesn't matter on the 6, you don't even need it? Post your instructions man,I can't think of a neat way of packaging it.
IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 11808
From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 699
Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 05:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockDirect Link to This Post
The schematics for the V6 are slightly different, so are the values for the resistors and the capacitors. Once I've got my digital cam working again, I'll build one and show you how to make a tachfilter that looks alsmost exactly like the original.
IP: Logged
BRIAN CORNELIUS
Member
Posts: 86
From: APPLE VALLEY, USA,MN 55124
Registered: May 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 08:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BRIAN CORNELIUSSend a Private Message to BRIAN CORNELIUSDirect Link to This Post
I was surprised there is a differece in the tach filter for the 4 cyl and the 6cyl engine! When I completed my v-8 swap in my '84 Fiero I recall the radio did have some interferance. I am just completing my second v-8 swap in an '87 and have hooked up the stock '87 Fiero tach filter and was wondering if this is the best approach?
IP: Logged
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 10:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
Well, I'm going to try building it today, so i'd appreciate any advice I can get. Did you solder it all to a board, or just the wires together.. I just don't know how I'm going to stick them into a casing?
IP: Logged
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 01:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post

JohnnyK

11290 posts
Member since Mar 2000
Well, it seems to work (?) and ended up like Rodney's (sure, I'm sure his is a lot better made, but as logn as I don't short out my car, I'm happy).. My only question is, what if I have it backwards.. I couldn't tell what way was in and out on the plug, so I just took a random guess. I can only assume it would work both ways, but is there a problem with this? Thanks
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
JohnnyK
Member
Posts: 11290
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2000


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 354
Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 06:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post

JohnnyK

11290 posts
Member since Mar 2000
Seems the tach get's jumpy at 2500 or so.. The guy at the electronics store told me that when converted, the capicitor equals 4700pF... Is that correct.. Could the jumpiness be caused by being backwards? Thanks
IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 11808
From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 699
Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 06:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockDirect Link to This Post
Yes, it does make a difference when connected the other way around. But not much. Now if you connect the V6 filter the wrong way, it would make a huge difference.
IP: Logged
Cliff Pennock
Administrator
Posts: 11808
From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 99


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 699
Rate this member

Report this Post04-06-2001 06:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockDirect Link to This Post

Cliff Pennock

11808 posts
Member since Jan 99
Oh, and another thing I would like to add is that the original tach-filters for the Fiero are no longer being made. The ones they sell now as a replacement part actually have the wrong resistor and capacitor values.
IP: Logged
Ken Wittlief
Member
Posts: 8410
From: .
Registered: Apr 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 142
Rate this member

Report this Post04-26-2001 01:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ken WittliefSend a Private Message to Ken WittliefDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by JohnnyK:
Seems the tach get's jumpy at 2500 or so.. The guy at the electronics store told me that when converted, the capicitor equals 4700pF... Is that correct.. Could the jumpiness be caused by being backwards? Thanks

47nF = 47,000pF not 4,700

one nano Farad is a thousand pico Farads.

IP: Logged



All times are ET (US)

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock