Hello friends,
if you notice the gray primered area. that is the whole unit to this kit. It is one big piece. I left the rest of the car red, so that you can see where the seperations will be. That is your seperating point. The lens will use 80-82 vette lens. Unless if i can make some deals w/ Ausfiero in the near future. the hole is 5" diameter. As soon as this is all done, i will have one installed on one of my prototype car and Josh's car(JCH82 will have installation manual w/ pics made, LOL). But this has been carefully thought of. This version of taillight kit will go up with the deck lid. It will look something like Grand Prix or Cadillac, etc. Wiring will be up and down with the deck lid. This first version is a bit challenging. It would be good for any handly person. I hope this version will be in demand for those who love the challenges. Prices on this version will be lower than the screw on, 2nd version.
The final version (3rd prototype notchback euro) will be bonded on the the body. Where the deck lid will be left alone. But deck lid cover will have a piece of finishing lip. The 3rd version may be slightly wider. And a new bumper will be in design to accomodate that new taillight. I am hoping to illuminate the black moldings around the car. Let's get the 2002 look at these awesome fieros. AYE? hehehe
thank u y'all.
pat kalsmith

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BC-GT busts out his most impressive photoshop skills to see what these would look like on his wheels??

Bursts out laughing, while looking for his "Idiot's Guide to Photoshop Manual"

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Darryl Martin
1985 GT

quote Originally posted by fieroX: I was thinking a rear fascia with a shaved exhaust outlet so it is the same height all the way across but have 2 of these holes cut on each side to integrate the exhaust into the rear fascia. That would be awesome. I think im going to work it up in photoshop and see what happens.

Like this?? Here's mine now without the exhaust .. exhaust will be coming outta the side...Sorry sooo big..

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Hey GTFIERO1,
Your right,If you took say...an 85GT or any of the SE cars,that have the Aero\Indy ground effects and put on the PISA fastback,then the notchback Euro taillights,It would look like the Real fastback,but with it's own unique look.And you wouldn't have to worry about finding the real thing.I'm keeping this in mind.

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85 GT Turbo intercooled

nice work Smooth gt. keep up the good work. i am working on Z3 vent molds on the side. hope this will make sales to help finish the notchback euro project.
pat

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Of course I will have the installation manual with pics! Anything to help out a friend. An installation manual would definitely help out with sales in my opinion. Especially for those that aren't sure about doing something like this because they think it might be to difficult.

On a side note, when are the Z3 vents coming out? Are they going on the outer sides of the hood scoop or on the top part up front?

**My fav question**
Any pics?

Josh

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JCH82 Josh,
thank u my friend. and to many fiero friends out there. Josh was once a customer, and that goes for smooth GT too. ok, Z3 vents is coming out tonite. but the Z3 vents that will fit the Zr1 hood scoop will come out in a week or 2. gotta redesign the fibersmith way. will send u pics tonite Josh. so u can put the pics for me in the ad later tonite.
pat k. www.thefibersmith.com
PS my site has been updated. check it out. more info on the company. Unless the site is down agian, LOL

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Are these Z3 vents gonna be the kind that are in the fender? Fendervents? I would buy some if they looked good. I also want to get one of those different bumpers you were talking about making.

Hey smooooooth, you should have the exhaust come out in the center in one pipe. I bet you have reason or dislike to this but the
porsche looks kinda kool like that

Ferrari-Momo... is this what you mean by Z3 vents?

If so, that'd be cool!

This photo came from http://www.wholesalehyperformance.com ...they specialize in ricer parts! ...they're charging $125 for a pair.

Too bad vents like these wouldn't be functional. But I must say fender vents would make any car look more aggressive, functional or not.

I think your artistry is unsurpassed. Wonderful! However, I might suggest a less squared off profile. As it now appears, the 'up-down' appearance makes the butt bigger. I suggest blending in a forward angle aabove the tail lights. This will make the Fiero design more lean-foreward. This idea is not meant to be critical, but rather complimentary from one artist to the other. I might also suggest adding a built in spoiler similar to what Chevy did to thier second generatin Comaro.Another thought, how about incorporating C-5 'Vette tailight bezels. From the year view, it will confuse alot of people (for the better).Keep us posted on your project.

Yes the Z3 vent is like the one posted above. They are just like that except without the round center hole. my price is 49.99 plus s/h. they are bond on. i will post ads in the mall this weekend. please tell your friends, ricers, and others about this cool item. need to raise money to get other projects finished.
thank you for all your comment, guys. i am still thinking of the final look of this euro taillight kit. i am open to new ideas
sincerely yours,
pat

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Here are the pics of the Z3 vents!

quote Pat's email to me: josh, could you please put this pic in "euro notchback taillight" section. thanks. will have better pics tomorrow. i will also have dimention for them too. pat k

Josh

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Pat, Great work on the Z3''s... looking good!! Thank's again.. the door's shaved LOOK AWESOME!!!! I'll get some pic's up one day!! Steve

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Do you have any pics with the Z3 vents installed? Also, how wide are they? The ones in the above picture are like 20 inches with the circle.

Austin,
i have a set installed on fiero hood yesterday. will have pics and dimention tonite in the mall. i am also going to make Z3 vents for fiero rocker panels, ZR1 hood scoop, and may be add on Z3 vents on trunk scoop.
sincerely yours,
pat kalsmith

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got into a minor car accident. sorry haven't got the Z3 vents pic on tonite. will have it soon.
thanks
pat k

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quote Originally posted by ferrari_momo: mean while, i am working on Fastback GT roof spoiler, hehehe.... safe your pennies, hehehe

ok this is going to sound wierd but it was one of the things i was imagining when archie showed those scoops a week or so ago. what if the roof spoiler incorporated some fi-air-ro type vents? or if the spoiler was about 9-11" wide front to back so some of those scoops archie had might graft onto them?

i can see it but i don't know how well i'm describing it.

phil,
not sure what those roof spoiler your talkin about looks like. i am building mine from scratch. as soon as i get some projects done, i am goin to finish this roof spoiler kit
pat k

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i'm imagining it will look like/be similar to the old supra ones or the ones new civic hatchbacks or focuses have. i don't really know what your planning. i just kind of thought of it when i saw the scoops archie had and i was tinking of ways to use them. then seeing your post about the roof wing reminded me of one of my ideas. i just thought i'd throw the idea out there.

Z3 vents are up for sale in the mall. check it out
thanks
pat

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All I want to know is how much? Your pics made me realize why the stock notchback is so butt ugly!!!! This mod is the best looking accessory I have ever seen for the notchback!!!!!!! I am not knocking the notchback, I own 3 of them. But I have always liked the fastback better, Until now!!!!!!!!

JB,
if you like this that much. i will consider you as one of my protoman. you and JCH82 josh can work together. at this time, i wont have the price. but the price will be reasonable. i will work with you my friend. yes, i have many notchback fieros. i only drive my fastback. lol but it will all be changed.
To all my dearest fiero friends,
at this moment, the project has come to a stop. it is because i just got laid off from my day time job. The fibersmith do not make that kind of sales to support itself. now, i am not annoucing this to ask you for mercy. just letting you guys know why my projects are coming out slow. this Euro notchback is coming along slowly but surely. i was hoping to get a couple of special tools to help get rid of waves and tight spots. now, it will all be done by hand. fear not, great artists used chissles back in those days. i will just have to sand my life away. lol.
meanwhile, i will have to look for another day time job. so that i can maintain a living and support the fibersmith. please pray for me. thank you people.
love you all!
pat k www.thefibersmith.com

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Aight this gives me more time to save my money! Just let us all know when its out!

coRy

Cory and all my fiero friends around the world,
thank u for your support. you guys are the best. i get the energy and motivation to go on with your support. thank you greatly. please tell your friends about my website. hope the fibersmith can make it on it's own soon.
sincerely yours,
pat kalsmith
PS 308/328 head light covers for YOUR Fieros are coming out soon. pics will be out this weekend never before offered in fiero market. i have dedicated time and energy to this item on the side. you guys feed me the fuel. thanks agian!!!

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hmm... hope when this kit comes out , i will get a bit of sales.
pat

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you know what i'd like (like you need more people throwing their flicted idea at you)? if one of the versions of the coupe tail light still had a place for 3 lights on a side. that way i could still use a sequential light mod. i don't know how cluttered that would look. i measured my vette and the fiero is about 4-5" wider across the rear so it might not be too bad. then maybe change the little square reflectors sitting lower down to back up lights.

phil,
the other version will be wider. more parts will be replaced (like rear bumper) so many ideas, but so busy. i have been busy with looking for a new day time job to replace the one that laid me off.
but thanks for inputs.
pat

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Pat, I can guarantee that when you have the eurotails done, you will have at least one buyer!! I'm already sold, can't wait for them to be completed. Good luck job hunting!

Josh

JCH82,
one buyer??? LOL... i will claim a welfare now, lol. ok, at least a few will want this kit. so, did u want to get the ferrari head light covers or wot? lol
pat k

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i think once you got a set done and mounted and painted on a car it'll be a lot better looking and probably have more buyers

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Adam J. B.

We are still looking for trainconductors here in the Netherlands, Ferari-momo.
Nice job and you can use my car as a proto to work on this winter. ;-)
Grtx Richard.

Conductor,
hmmm.. netherland would be a nice place to get away for a while, lol. are u related to Cliff Pennock?
i'll have the nothcback euro out early 2002. JCH82 would have it installed and painted hehehe.. i cant even afford to have my daily car painted yet
pat k

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Hey Pat, I may be a buyer too. I really like them. I just haven't done much with fiberglass, so I'm not sure how good I'll do. Maybe you could help me out
The SE is looking better. I still need to have the hood painted. The nose will be covered until I get the whole car re-painted next year. Still runs good. No problems with it. Except some annoying interior rattles and stuff.
Anyway, I hope you do well with these. Can't wait to see a painted version.

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-Adam
sqoach@yahoo.com

^^^^^new project^^^^^

86 SC 2.5L 5spd

Sqoach,
thanks for your support oh, i never forgot you about the 6X9 speakers. got laid off last week, i was about to get the check out to u. oh, wanna do some trade deal w/ the Z3 vents? lol. umm.. could i like do a layaway on those 6X9 for now?
when i get the euro kit out, and your ready. if i have time, i will work with you at my place. we will spend the day doing the conversion. will order pizza and beer. lol. ok, make it this spring time. i dont like working outsite when it's cold. hehe.
pat

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That is SWEET!!!

Keep us posted Pat. Between you and Aus we'll have some outstanding Fieros out there on the streets.

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Jeff
AOL IM : Only2xsess

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thank u i am working hard at it. new item coming soon! cant tell yet.
pat k
PS please buy something. lol need food money and tools to finish projects, lol

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hey guys,
i am working on dash kit at the moment. hope to get these euro kits out in a few months. any potential interests?
thanks
pat kalsmith www.thefibersmith.com

quote Originally posted by ferrari_momo: hey guys, i am working on dash kit at the moment. hope to get these euro kits out in a few months. any potential interests? thanks pat kalsmith www.thefibersmith.com

i'd have an interest if i had fiero, and a nochback, and the money for your kit but i cant wait to see a finished an painted poduct, i want to see a finished and painted pic of your head light louvers too

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Adam J. B.

you gotta keep on keepin on...
IM AOL: GTFiero & Rumpdetective (dont ask)