Ok sqoach im not allowed to have an opinion? don't tell me how to behave! why don't you keep your mouth shut? you people are going crazy because i don't like the idea of a hood scoop , and oh ya i was doing this just to start trouble , get a life...

it's not that you don't like the idea. it's your insistence that they don't do anything when there are way too many people here (myself included on 2 different cars and considering doing a couple others) who have them and have seen positive benefits of one type or another. kind of like argueing the sky's not blue when i've already looked up and saw that it is.

quote Originally posted by sqoach: Hey, all you guys know that stokin is yo_sweet, don't you? He said that he was gonna behave and try to get along, but he obviously isn't. He's still a prick trying to cause trouble, as you can plainly see. No point in trying to convince him about anything. BTW, I like the hood vent.

Yup, I knew that. Apparently, even MORE of an a$$ than when he called himself "yo_sweet" or "santa_cruzer", if that's possible. As far as I'm concerned, from this point on, he doesn't exist on this forum. I will not respond to any of his posts or questions, be they rational or flame bait.

I don't expect him to care, but I would suggest everyone else do the same. I certainly see no point in wasting my time having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Here endeth the lesson. [turns back on Stokin_the_neighbors]

hate to dissapoint you but im not going to be bowing down to your views i will think what i want to think ,you go cut your hoods i don't care nor do i care if you ignore me for not wanting to belive what some of you are saying , if putting hood scoops on a fiero was so phenominal , GM would have done it.... sorry i don't feel like being made fun of on the street for haveing sunbird or t/a' vent's on my hood for no apperant reason, i don't try to be somthing im not..

i will look in this thread no longer goodbye.

i think the average IQ of this thread just went up 30 points...

i have the same question.
why don't you guys just put the vents closer to the front of the hood, so you don't have to cut the trunk lip?

if you cut the trunk lip, what keeps water out of it?

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quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: i don't try to be somthing im not.. i will look in this thread no longer goodbye.

Your right Stokin'.... Please don't try and be something that your not... We would hate for you to be a *nice* person and JUST state your point and then leave it alone... Please just try and get along!!! If you have a point or opinion... just post it and leave it alone... I really hope that you can do that!!! You need to try and be a good person and THANK God everyday that your still alive from the bad accident you were in... Thank's for letting me try and JUST state my view and opinion on this.. Thank's

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quote Originally posted by Neal: Wrong fieroshop, plus all the popups on that site is absolutly horrible for any site, and this is a commercial site supposed to make me buy their products... Not gonna happen when im too busy closing popups... oh the correct site is http://www.fieroshop.net/

dont know what you are talking about, I didnt have any pop-ups and the site was well organized

quote i have the same question. why don't you guys just put the vents closer to the front of the hood, so you don't have to cut the trunk lip? if you cut the trunk lip, what keeps water out of it? [/B]

You want to extract the air exiting the radiator, so the farther back from th efront edge, the more effective it will be.

As far as cutting the lip into the tire well area, I don't know about this, so I will not venture any farther than say A) that area already has drain holes, and B) all that stuff in there is exposed to the elements in 99% of all other vehicles on the road.

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lol Theres always been a trunk up front. Its where all you AC stuff is, and your spare. And yes, it is sealed, it has weather stripping on it keeping it watertight. I had a hood scoop on my old GT, and it did NOT require the lip to be cut. My front trunk was still completely water tight. The reverse scoop did NOTHING to stop my headlight doors from flying up at 125, the only, ONLY! thing that will fix that is pins holding it down, OR stronger "hinge springs" that keep it down. What it WILL do is keep the car cooler. Especially needed for AutoX and racing when you are running on hot asphalt, in 90* weather, and then running right to the redline and staying there. This helped DRAMATICALLY. Engine was a warmed over 3.1, rebuilt from a stock 2.8. Another thing that a reverse hood scoop does it eliminate that "pillow" effect at high speeds. Air accumulates under the front end, effectivly pushing the car up. Hence, why at high speeds the steering is EXTREMELY light, more so then normal. Its also why you dont get as much feedback through the steering wheel. With the cutout there, the front end stays at the right height, allowing you to steer better, as well as get the feedback from the road. As to if you should do it or not? Personal opinion. As to how you should do it? Also, personal opinion. I opted for a reverse scoop (i'll post pics of mine if anyone interested) because i didnt like the vents. A good friend of mine opted for the vents, and I'll admit, it looks good. It looks factory no less. Most people here are good, and dont beilive in bashing others for the sake of bashing, why do you have to? If you dont like it, Dont do it. dont go around b*tchin and moanin, when its not even your car.

There, rant/lecture mode off.

-Karl

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Hey Cozmos, why didn't you call me iof you were having problems. I would have told you how to correct them. As far as cracking there will be none if you put fiberglass tape about one inch wide around all the edges.
I have installed several and have had no problems.
For those of you who do not know this, but my hood vents are functional at a low speed of 12 miles an hour and at 125 miles an hour my front end did not feel light and the headlight doors never came up. In fact driving at 125 my car felt like I was doing 85

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quote why don't you guys just put the vents closer to the front of the hood, so you don't have to cut the trunk lip?

The problem is that if you move the hood vent too far forward, it interferes with the radiator shroud. And besides, having the opening for the vent above the radiator shroud instead of behind it will not be very helpful.

For the better part of a year, I had hood vents on my 86 coupe. But they weren't the recessed vents like the ones in the pics up there. These were low-profile scoops turned backwards. Yes, even on my mostly-stock 4-banger my coolant temps averaged about 10F degrees cooler. And the car was more manageable at highway speeds (thanks to increased front downforce). And I also found a third unexpected plus... the hot air coming out of the hood and washing over the windshield acted as a great window defogger.

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Well, I think we will ALL acknowledge TheOgre
as an authority on heat managment. He states in the Cave that anything that can be done to improve air flow is good. I realize he is refering to the eng compartment, but if you are removing heat from the coolant via the radiator, you are also removing heat from the rear compartment. So here's my question:
I have an 84, with the duke, naturally. It does get pretty warm in stop & go in the summer. Have any of you guys with the reversed scoops on the front noticed any help in this area in the summer since you've installed them? Anybody that does this for pay want to offer a ballpark quote on what it might cost me to get it done here? I don't do fiberglass myself. Thanks in advance.
Don

quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: Ok sqoach im not allowed to have an opinion? don't tell me how to behave! why don't you keep your mouth shut? you people are going crazy because i don't like the idea of a hood scoop , and oh ya i was doing this just to start trouble , get a life...

There is a difference between having an opinion and making out as if what you state is a fact. You was doing the latter not the former. As for how you behave well that is easily described. You behave like a child.

Any chance that "Stokin'_The_Neighbors" might be a pseudonym meaning "getting the neighbors hot" as in US? All the posts I've seen are negative - so I'm gonna ignore all of 'em. And hey, I think the scoops look pretty good - but I think I'm too lazy to put any in mine. 'sides, I'm still working on the stinkin' clutch!!

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quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: [B]hate to dissapoint you but im not going to be bowing down to your views i will think what i want to think ,you go cut your hoods i don't care nor do i care if you ignore me for not wanting to belive what some of you are saying , if putting hood scoops on a fiero was so phenominal , GM would have done it.... sorry i don't feel like being made fun of on the street for haveing sunbird or t/a' vent's on my hood for no apperant reason, i don't try to be somthing im not.. B]

Well for on, if you put sunbird or t/a vents on a fieroo, unless the were revers, you would be a dipshit (somehow I could see YOU doing that)

And second, although some people might voice opinions about things, this topic is based on hard facts, very simple concepts too. You don't have to change yourself to believe the truth even though you've convinced yourself otherwise.

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Could yall take a break in the action long enough to answer my question I posted a couple of hrs ago? Up about 3-4 replies. thanks

Well, I think they look great, will definitely work for cooler running engine and also less rise in the front at higher speeds. I intend on getting some at some point.

Phil

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quote Originally posted by maryjane: So here's my question: I have an 84, with the duke, naturally. It does get pretty warm in stop & go in the summer. Have any of you guys with the reversed scoops on the front noticed any help in this area in the summer since you've installed them?Don

It won't result in any benefit when your stuck in stop/go traffic, I doubt that you could measure the temp difference because air flow is by fan alone. Once you get the car moving though it would be another story as the air at the back of the radiator is improved. Just a note about design: A little caution should be exercised on consideration of any scoop design. It must not create a positive pressure zone at the scoop opening, this can be checked by taping bright colored lenghts of string just forward of the scoop and going for a drive (strings should float above the opening and not forced down into it).

Just how hot are you running in tight traffic Don???

quote Originally posted by GTFiero1: wait, wait...since when wasthe trnk in the front?

the other trunk.
the underhood storage area. it used it to store the things that never came out of the car. tire, jack, some tools. a first aid kit and a small bag with a change of clothes.

i am aware that the trunk-trunk is in the back. i'm talking about the other trunk.

quote i am aware that the trunk-trunk is in the back. i'm talking about the other trunk.

Ohhhhh... OK ! You mean the front trunk, not the rear trunk

WOW! Dude, that car looks ,awesome! I love the paint and stripes scheme you have on it. White with black accents looks sweet. OK, I may be a bit biased LOL

Where did you get that rear spoiler and how much does one cost? I want one! I think I would like that on my 86GT better than the stock one I just got

Anyone have one and would like to trade for a stock Fiero one?

Steve

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where abouts is the bast place to mount one of these vents????

personally i think that they give the car a sportier(<--if thats even a word) look

lotus has them on the elise its only a 4 banger the opel speedster has em 4 banger again

my fiero is a 4 banger and its eventually going to have them too

Chris

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An explanation for stokrin_the_neighbors. As a car moves faster thru the air, it builds an area of high pressure in front of the car bumper and under the hood. You can call this an air bubble. This air bubble can be strong enough to lift the car up, especially at high speeds. The hood vent helps to relieve some of this high pressure by diverting the air back to the outside of the car. Our cars have a limited venting capacity under the hood. If you drive your car fast enough, you too will notice that the headlights pop up on your car. I respect the fact that in your opinion they don't do anything, That is your opinion and you have stated it. You do not have to defend your opinion, it's yours after all,and you do not need to try and force your opinion on anybody here, as they all have the ability to make up their own minds. Just state the facts, as you know them to be true, and let others make up their minds. There is no need for name calling or flames here, as the ignorant will reveal themselves by their own words. This is why you should keep what you say straight and to the point, as accurate as you can, and to a minimum of words. P.S. remember Cliff is watching you and pissing the others off to the point that they are complain to him will not be to good for you. Please heed this friendly warning and behave.

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quote Originally posted by Haze_Performance: Hey Cozmo?? Do you have anymore pics?? I would like to check-em out.. Thanks

ME 2! .... Also if you could post a little how-to type deal. Hell when my car had 18,000 miles on it and the springs in the headlight doors were strong they would come up at around 100mph. Not that a condone going that fast , but on a track it looks kinda dorky.

If anyone wants a quick fix I believe WCF has a solution , sorry to say it looks real easy to copy too.

Thanks!

JM

What a complete @$$hole! Hey Strokin-the-neighbors, Weren't you the "santa cruzer" (not to mention Yo-sweet)???

To all, I was doing a search to get the pics of my hood vents and guess what I find, The first thread that had my pics posted was by "Santa Cruzer"!!! He was looking for Hood vents!!

See: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20020118-1-010380.html

Not to mention the little weasle as "yo-sweet" wanted the same thing!!

See: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20020118-1-011000.html

I have no idea what this moron's problem is but I for one think he should be totally ignored. Everytime he starts a thread, just don't post to it. If he comments on a thread, just ignore the little troll.

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quote Originally posted by Oreif: I for one think he should be totally ignored. Everytime he starts a thread, just don't post to it. If he comments on a thread, just ignore the little troll.

Yup. That's my plan.

Well, I like the style of the hood vents- but I purchased one from Rockcrawl instead of the FieroShop (Not for any reason other than I prefer the style of one more than the other). Hopefully the weather around here will warm up a touch and I can get the installation started!
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/impala/403/fieroparts.htm

He also has complete install instructions on the page.

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OK, I'll work up a little "how-to" on my vent. It's really not too difficult and is great for a home brew project.
Of course it will be in a new, "unpolluted" thread...

BobC

Yeah that was before i got my ass made fun of for requesting them , the guy i was asking them for has a lote more experiance with hood scoops then most of you people have
on top of which he said they WONT do anything for my car.

quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: Yeah that was before i got my ass made fun of for requesting them , the guy i was asking them for has a lote more experiance with hood scoops then most of you people have on top of which he said they WONT do anything for my car.

HAHA, the "guy" you talked to probably has no clue about Fiero's (such as yourself).
But you do get an "E" for effort at trying to back out of your previous posts from your previos screen names.

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: Well, I like the style of the hood vents- but I purchased one from Rockcrawl instead of the FieroShop (Not for any reason other than I prefer the style of one more than the other). Hopefully the weather around here will warm up a touch and I can get the installation started! http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/impala/403/fieroparts.htm He also has complete install instructions on the page.

These are my favorite hood vents. They'd be perfect if the leading edge of the vents was parallel to the leading edge of the hood. I think that would fit the body lines better. Still, these are the ones I plan on going with when I finally get around to it.

get him! Oreif !! pansies like him need a good @$$ whoopin'

quote Originally posted by Oreif: HAHA, the "guy" you talked to probably has no clue about Fiero's (such as yourself). But you do get an "E" for effort at trying to back out of your previous posts from your previos screen names.

comming from a guy who make's fiero emblem's , who know's so much hahahahaha

im outta this post for GOOD!

quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: im outta this post for GOOD!

yeah... that is until the next time you just can't control your own outburst.

All I have to say/to ask is this: You are welcome to share your opinion/knowelege here on the forum... but if your information doesn't "jive" with everyone else's. Then please refrain from trying to force your ideas on us. Also, instead of accepting what your mechanic says point-blank, feel free to keep an open mind and realize that there is far more combined experience here on PFF than is possible in one single person. I accept your opinion that you do not feel that hood vents are necessary... I do not agree with you & your opinion will not change my position on the subject. I will be installing hood vents on my GT this spring- if you wish to see them simply as asthetic & not functional; that is perfectly OK with me!

quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: comming from a guy who make's fiero emblem's , who know's so much hahahahaha im outta this post for GOOD!

HAHAHA, That's the best you can do?
Oh well, one of these days you'll grow up.

quote Originally posted by Stokin_the_neighbors: if putting hood scoops on a fiero was so phenominal , GM would have done it.... sorry i don't feel like being made fun of on the street for haveing sunbird or t/a' vent's on my hood for no apperant reason, i don't try to be somthing im not.. i will look in this thread no longer goodbye.

, how come you still think that they dont do anything even though about 10 people who have them say they do? This is jut plain ignorance! When i was new to the fiero, i saw one with the front air vent and tought i was pointless, then i reserched it and found out it does help.

Why didnt GM put one on it? Because when it came out in 84 It had 92hp out of a 4-banger and it was a Commuter Car, why would it need it? GM people didnt expect people to be racin or drivin Fieros above 100mph. The Fiero only lasted 5 years, who knows maybe if it lasted another couple of years, they would have put in a hood vent.

here is you- "why would you want to cut up your hood and put in a vent that does nothing?"

-I noticed it keeps the engine cooler and the car down at high speeds
-The car seems to handle better at high speeds
-cooling seems to be better
-keeps the front end form lifting up
-headlight doors dont pop up at high speeds

"Well im not gonna put something stupid on my car that does nothing, good bye!"

can you spell IGNORANCE?

you have no proof that it does nothing but we have a lot of proof that it does

its fine that you dont like them but STOP stating they do nothing, you probably havent taken a Fiero over 70mph yet.

hmm..maybe Strokin_the_salami is just jelous??
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