ur both right. tourismo and touring mean same thing. GTO means Grand Touring Omlegata, SE means Special Edition which means they used parts left over (usually from a differnt model or previous year) to make you think its something 'special'. Lately, manufacurers have been going nuts with letters like GXE, LSI, LXI, LX. Mercedes has a system which makes no sense SL, SLC, SC, SD, SE, CS, SEL, SLK. SL is supposed to be 'sports, lightweight' but SLs are really touring roadsters and not light at nearly 4000#s, so go figure.
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DKOV Member
Posts: 1564 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Mar 2001
Cadillac is going to the letter system but at least it makes a a little sense. The car that was prototyped as the Evoq is coming out as the XLR = Extreme Luxury Roadster. And the new sedan that came out last year is the CTS = Cadillac Touring Sedan.
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Posts: 6508 From: Camden County NJ Registered: Sep 2001
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F86GT Member
Posts: 442 From: Oakland, MI USA Registered: Oct 2002
Originally posted by rogergarrison:Mercedes has a system which makes no sense SL, SLC, SC, SD, SE, CS, SEL, SLK. SL is supposed to be 'sports, lightweight' but SLs are really touring roadsters and not light at nearly 4000#s, so go figure.
The slk, sl, cl, etc are just model names like Fiero. they don't use "special" editions...
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GTFiero1 Member
Posts: 6508 From: Camden County NJ Registered: Sep 2001
Cadillac is going to the letter system but at least it makes a a little sense. The car that was prototyped as the Evoq is coming out as the XLR = Extreme Luxury Roadster. And the new sedan that came out last year is the CTS = Cadillac Touring Sedan.
so when the CTS is advertised as "the all new Cadillac CTS" they're saying "the all new Cadillac cadillac touring sedan"? HAHAHA
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Morninglight Member
Posts: 449 From: The Netherlands Registered: Aug 2002
I love Mercedes. I had an AMG SL for over 10 years that I drove the hell out of and still looked gorgeous. That was a real girl getter. If they 'did' make a special edition, which i didnt say they did, it would def be AMG. I was just saying that their lettering system is totally confusing.
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87FastbackHartz14 Member
Posts: 352 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: May 2002
yeah, there half assed model names because they arent clever enough to give the cars real names
Well, in the immortal words of Carrol Shelby, when asked why he chose the name GT350 for his new Shelby Mustang, "If it's a bad car, the name won't save it, and if it's a good car the name won't matter."
In that case, it was GT for the GT racing series, and 350 because it was 350 feet from the garage to the test track where they developed the car.
The GT designation may have come from somewhere originally, but in Pontiac's usage, it means "the expensive sport model." Just like Formula means "the cheap sport model" and SE means "nicer, and more expensive, than the base model with extra bells and whistles."
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2farnorth Member
Posts: 3402 From: Leonard, Tx. USA Registered: Feb 2001
Omalagato or Homolugated in English means that enough cars were produced to make the car qualify as a "production model" to compete in a class. Years ago NASCAR had 500 as the magic number. I believe that Ferrari was the first to use that appellation with a road car and Pontiac copied it with the GTO and even did advertising to "compare" the two cars.
GT= get tired, of working on it!!! its Grand Touring Ok we got that out of the way so whats GTA? oh and of course LM = limited edition, ya'll forgot that one.
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rogergarrison Member
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Im not sure , but I think GTA came from sports car racing series like trans am. It was a class as in GT...A, B, etc. Im guessing the firebird ran in group 'A'. There must be a book somewhere that has all these abbreviations in it.......lol
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Poncho Jim Member
Posts: 869 From: Woodlands, MB, Canada Registered: Mar 2000
No, it stands for Catera(I believe the model is the Catera) Touring Sedan. Just like STS is Seville Touring Sedan and DTS is Deville Touring Sedan.
Nah, initially it was going to be Catera Touring Sedan, but caddy didnt want the Catera name in it, its Cadillac Touring Sedan so yes Cadillac Cadillac Touring Sedan
Just like when commercials or other advertisements say for a like a little TV or flat screen computer monitor LCD Display so they're saying Liquid Crystal Display Display
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ToddAsh Member
Posts: 328 From: Springfield,Pa. Registered: Nov 2000
About the Mercedes names.Mine is a Special Edition. Called a 300CE Sportline.Factory sport suspension,special wheels,little spoiler front & rear.Still like my '85 SE and '86 GT the best.Just need 4 seats sometimes.Today someone said about my SE "that nice, toobad its not the V6". Wanted to argue that only the GT has a V6. I'm enjoying these things getting rarer and rarer. Think I'll save the GT for the day (GOD forbid) that something happens to the SE.Love it. Tagged for the first time ever last year with 1,400 miles.Just turned 20,000.
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White88GT Member
Posts: 656 From: Watauga, texas, usa Registered: Nov 2002
Sorry guys, I know this is off topic but can anyone tell me where to get snorkels/over-the-roof scoops (that look like fiero harry's) for an '88 GT. I have been looking for awhile but haven't found any that go over the engine grills. I was looking for 1 for each side. Sorry to be off topic, but I need advice from fiero experts!!! Thanks--Nathan