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Thoughts on the etymology of the word "Fiero" by Wichita
Started on: 02-15-2003 02:48 PM
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Report this Post02-15-2003 02:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WichitaSend a Private Message to WichitaDirect Link to This Post
Fiero is Italian for "Proud"

Does this accuratly protray our beloved automobiles?

I cannot get the Pontiac Proud off of my mind.

I don't know, but I'm Proud

But Fiero is just a cool word. So I'm Fiero.

Anybody have any thoughts on it?

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Report this Post02-15-2003 04:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StuGoodSend a Private Message to StuGoodDirect Link to This Post
So, where did the word "etymology" come from, anyway? Sorry, couldn't resist that one !

Seriously, though, I'd bet on GM picking Fiero mostly because it's kind of a sound-alike, and (if you step back real far and squint) look-alike for "Ferrari." Ditto for the "flying pegasus" emblem. I can't count the number of times people fumbled and called my car a "Ferraro." The fact that it means "proud" in Italian didn't hurt, either. The sound-alike factor, plus the fact that it actually means something, equals a winning name. I like it .

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Report this Post02-15-2003 04:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobearSend a Private Message to fierobearDirect Link to This Post
the problem is, with all bad press about the fire problems, most people think of or associate "Fiero" with "fire."
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Report this Post02-15-2003 04:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SoaperSend a Private Message to SoaperDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by fierobear:

the problem is, with all bad press about the fire problems, most people think of or associate "Fiero" with "fire."

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I love these cars to death! Since ive seen GTDUDE loose a few fieros. When mine is finished its gonna be pertected by fireexteingusisher

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Report this Post02-15-2003 04:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
I pcked up on the "proud" theme and named my cars "Proud-1" and "Proud-2"

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Report this Post02-15-2003 05:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87GTBroSend a Private Message to 87GTBroDirect Link to This Post
Fiero in spanish means "Steel"
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Report this Post02-15-2003 05:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OrvilleSend a Private Message to OrvilleDirect Link to This Post
Actually, "fierro" means iron in spanish;
"fiero" means fierce or ferocious.
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it's an anagram for "O! FIRE!"

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Report this Post02-15-2003 09:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
Microsoft spell check calls it fire.
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Report this Post02-15-2003 10:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ALSend a Private Message to ALDirect Link to This Post
sorry but in spanish, fiero means steel,i know your dictionary saids different,but
in context of actually speaking spanish it does mean steel,especially when you are a mechanic,you will here the term spoken in this manner, dame ese fiero por favor,which means give me that socket or wrench,plus i have been speaking spanish in my family since i was born,and that was a long time ago,so you see it means steel but made of plastic.
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Report this Post02-15-2003 11:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GTFiero1Send a Private Message to GTFiero1Direct Link to This Post
The name does kind of go along with high end supercars, the design, the fact its mid-engined help to confuse some people to call it a Ferrari or Fieri or Ferraro (thts just some of the ferrari related names people have called my Fiero) also the shape of the fiero badge is close to that of a porsche. Also Fiero being an italian word sounds kind of exotic.

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My friend, she called it a "Ferraro" for weeks before saying "Fiero".
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Report this Post02-16-2003 12:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
My Italian friend says that in common ordinary use "Fiero" also means "cocky"...I wonder if I can get that on a license plate?
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Report this Post02-16-2003 03:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JerseySend a Private Message to JerseyDirect Link to This Post
According to the book on fieros written by Gary Witzenburg: "Yet fairly late in the program no on could agree on to what to call the car.Sprint had been one possibilty.The designers and a lot of other Pontiac people favored Pegasus,an old Pontiac showcar name.One designer in Bill Scott's studio,Jon Albert,even took it upon himself to create and emblem showcasing the winged horse from mythology.Jon's design was so good that it eventually became the P-car's badge even though the Pegasus name didn't fly
Pontiac rejected Pegasus,according to Bill Hoglund, because most people mispronounced the name.They put the accent on the second syllable(Peg-GAS-sus)instead of the first PEG-ga-sus)."So we had a big,huge name study,"relates Hoglund,"and finally came up with Sunfire.We figured we had the name!
Then one day I got a call from a janitor at the assembly plant named Clavin Queen."Calvin said it's the greatest car,but everyone thinks the Sunfire name is awful."What's wrong with it?It is old fashion ,he said, and that car is too new and fun and fresh to have that tired old fashion old Pontiac name on it."
"Finally we said ,Okay,let's setup a meeting.Bring everyname you want and we won't leave the room until we all can agree on one name."
Before that meeting took place though,Pontiac chief designer John Schinella came up with Fiamma."It means first love of the heart:flame excitement,in Italian",he realtes.One night Sergio Pininfarina,the Italian designer, was in town,so we went to dinner,and later hadhim over to my house.I showed him slides of the car and a list of Italian names and ,after much discussion and a sorting out of phonetics,we felt Fiamma best suited the spirit of the car.
"Everybody liked it until they took it to the dealer council, and then Bill Lane and Holund called me and said John,we just can't use that name.The dealer council doesn't like it at all.I said"What's the matter with it?" Lane said,They just ought to think it should be called Firebird XP or something similar."
"In the studio ,we all felt that an Italian name was very appropriate,esp with a few of us being of Italian descent.That next Saturday ,while thumbing through the Italian dictionary at home,my wife,Roxann,came into my home studio and asked why I was so quiet.I replied that we had lost the Fiamma name,and I mentioed that some of us were disappointed,but we still wanted to persue a new Italian name.
"Then almost immediately,I tripped on the word,fiero!I said,Hmmn,that sounds interseting.My wife asked what it meant.I told her,it means very proud."And we both agreed that was the right name.
"Hoglund was about to have this big meeting to decide on a name.I called it The Last Supper,because we were all going to go into this room,about 12 of us,and lock the door,and we couldn't leave until we had a name.
" Before the meeting,I started calling some of my supporters.Hulki didn't seem to care one way or another,although he wanted a Turkish name.Jim Fitzpatrick,the comptroller and a real Design staff supporter,liked it.So did (executive designer)Hank Haga and Pontiac interior design chief Bill Scott.
Bill Hoglund picks up the story here:So we got to that meeting .We invited everyone who had anything to do with the car:Hulki Schinella,Scott,manufacuring guys,sales guys,the whole staff.They'd submitted names before to planning,so we put them all on a wall.The first process was .Okay,each guy can choose his fav,and he had 5 min to sell it.We went around the table,and got the list to five.Then we got it down to three:Fiamma,Sunfire and Fiero.Fiamma was considered too sleek.Sunfire sounded too old.But Fiero was just right"

reprinted without permission from the book hope it doesn't offend him.Go get the book Fiero by Gary Witzenburg great book lot of interesting facts.Oh yea p3000 was also considered.Hope this helps

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Al, please note the spelling - fierro (steel or
iron) is spelled with 2 r's. Fiero (1 r) means
fierce or ferocious.

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Report this Post02-20-2003 01:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ALSend a Private Message to ALDirect Link to This Post
spelled diff, but still means what i said,i guess you just have to speak the language to know better! but you can say proud.
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Report this Post02-20-2003 02:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
If "Fiero" means proud, then why isn't Pontiac PROUD of it?
After reading the "Fiero" book (from the fierostore), and the video (also from the FS) how could you NOT be proud of the car? The blood, sweat, and effort to create the car...the INSANE degree of modifications that can be done on it (engine, body, etc)
It's a shame all we see is an occasionsl pic in a pontiac mag.

guess we be a special breed indeed


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