Are you gonna moldover where the ugly black trim is?
Do you mean the round moulding down the middle of the car? No, thats painted red to match the car.
Yes the door and fender pieces are moulded into the body panels on all 4 planes, even if he flips this thing on the roof, the stage 2 GFX pieces will look moulded in
You might notice the odd shape at the leading edge of the door, this was purposely put in to avoid any scraping between the door and fender gfx pieces.
We had toyed with the idea of moulding the lower rocker panel in with the fender and 1/4 panels, but we ditched that idea in favor of ease of replacement of the rocker panel in case of damage. I modified the 1/4 panel and the fender part so that it retains the factory rocker panel attachment system.
Hats of to my body shop guys, we spent alot of time trying to think of the best way to make these things look as factory as possible.
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09:25 PM
Automoda Member
Posts: 318 From: Bluffdale, Utah, USA Registered: Sep 2002
I have stage2 scoops ordered for my new Fiero, which will also be painted bright red and have the scoops smoth-blended. I cant wait to see your car when its reassembled so I can see how mine will look! BTW, yes, your body shop guys did an excellent job!
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jubjub2m6 Member
Posts: 1403 From: idaho, soon cali most likely Registered: Nov 2001
That is the best installation of the Stage 2 that I have seen!! I'm not saying that the other installion's did'nt look good, because they all look great!! Aus your rare designer that has a focus of exactly what you want! I'm in awe of you Aus.... It's people like you that keep me in focus on finishing "Smooth GT"... Great Job Jel...
Smooth!!
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10:05 PM
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
Nice job Jelly. I hate to say this but it looks unfinished to me. I'd have liked it more, the scoop, not your work, if the scoop was tapered to end flush at the front of the door myself.
Nice job Jelly. I hate to say this but it looks unfinished to me. I'd have liked it more, the scoop, not your work, if the scoop was tapered to end flush at the front of the door myself.
The original plan was to finish at the bottom of ther fender but look at a Fiero without ground effects and you will see why it was done that way.
Thanks for the compliments all and some new scoops will be out very soon too. That car almost makes me want to use stage 2s again myself.
A few more pics I took today, still not complete on the outside, but it's getting there.
Thanks for the replies so far, they mean alot. I have alot put into this car, not just into the scoops either. This is a built to order Fiero, everything has been done to the customers requirements right down to stripping the car and repainting the chassis / frame gloss black. We even went as far as replacing the door pins.
The interior is not finalized, I heard something about Recaro's last night....
Just a few basics on this car, 5.7L TPI V8, 5 spd Isuzu, 11.25" brakes, 17" wheels, Poly everywhere, Eibach's , KYB's, white faced guages.... etc,etc.
Lots of Goodies from Rodney and the Fiero Store, Ausfiero's scoops, donor car from Summerjim, seat skins from Fropuff, brake adapters from Custom84cp, and of course, Propulsion courtesy of V8 Archie
Maybe we can call this the PFF car? j/k
These pics were takin this evening when the sun was going down, and it is dirty after driving it on wet roads.
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04:30 PM
jelly2m8 Member
Posts: 6235 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Jul 2001
I cannot wait till I see the interior. WOW what a car! Kinda like a Playboy model after a make-over at the beauty parlor. Can't get enough... MORE PIX.
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04:55 PM
artherd Member
Posts: 4159 From: Petaluma, CA. USA Registered: Apr 2001
Your workmanship ix exquisite, and the product is obviously of "Aus" quality
Ok, now we all need *instillation tips!* (I was impressed at how flat you got everything, in the reflection shots.)
Best! Ben.
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AusFiero Member
Posts: 11513 From: Dapto NSW Australia Registered: Feb 2001
Jel seems to think it needs my shelved skirts to finish it. I added front and rear lower facia covers too. All bolt ons. If my development budget hadn't been destroyed by a Yugoslavian.
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jelly2m8 Member
Posts: 6235 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Jul 2001
Ok, now we all need *instillation tips!* (I was impressed at how flat you got everything, in the reflection shots.)
Best! Ben.
Ben, I personally didn't have alot to do with the actual mounting of the door and fender pieces , or moulding them in.
After many discussions and a day spent with the paint products rep, the final idea was to attach them by filling the backside with a 2 part epoxy as Ausfiero suggestes.
From there they did the initial moulding in of the seams with this epoxy glue.
Then the excess epoxy was worked down smooth before working with a high build primer.
I was not in the paint shop the 2 days that were actually spent on attaching the panels, but I spoke briefly with the one guy after they were mounted.
He removed the doors and fenders to do the actual install of the panels, as it is easier to work with the epoxy and panels on a horizontal surface. He claimed that he spend the first whole day attaching the drivers door panel first, but after that experiance, he was able to do the complete passangers side in 3 hours the next day.
I will talk with this guy on the actual procedure he used and post it up so that anybody who wants to do it that way , they can.
We still have to work out a final price on the body shop work, but the paint and color change is billed out for $1500.00 canuk.
This includes painting the under sides of the deck and trunk lids, along with painting it with the majority of the panles and trim, etc off of the car.
These paint guys do very nice quality work at a reasonable cost.
They took blackie2m6's car from a rough looking project to a first place throphy winning car for a low 900 dollars canuk.
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
That is the best installation of the Stage 2 that I have seen!! I'm not saying that the other installion's did'nt look good, because they all look great!! Aus your rare designer that has a focus of exactly what you want! I'm in awe of you Aus.... It's people like you that keep me in focus on finishing "Smooth GT"... Great Job Jel...
Smooth!!
Ditto.....
Again... Great Job Aus, Jel, and everyone who worked on it!!
Smooth!!
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Posts: 1108 From: Riverport, Nova Scotia Canada Registered: Nov 2001
I'm getting the spring itch as we're looking towards warmer weather. I'm preparing to get back to work on the GT, and one of the first orders of business is to install the Stage 2 trim.
I'm was hoping that you (or someone) might be able to provide some details as to exactly what epoxy and/or epoxy glue was used for filling & attaching the trim. The installation shown looks excellent, and I can only hope for such clean & nice results!
I'm going to have a body guy help me do it at my house, so I'm not sure what we are useing yet. I can let you know when I find out.
What were you going to use?
Well, I'm quite curious about the Araldite ( http://www.araldite-adhesives.com/ ) product that AUS has mentioned in the past... otherwise I believe I have 3 different epoxy adhesives right now: one for Rigid applications, one for semi-rigid applications (I think this is what I used on my deck scoop), and one for flexible repairs (like urethane bumper covers). I don't recall the manufacturers off hand, but I know one was a SEM product. I'll have to check when I get home tonight and let you know.
I'd really like to find out what was used on the Red GT shown... as it appears to have worked quite well!
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jelly2m8 Member
Posts: 6235 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Jul 2001
After reading some of the data I've found... the Pliogrip (an Ashland product) looks like an awesome material/adhesive. Seems a tad difficult to locate a specific supplier for it... though I'm sure I can come up with something!
I've also sent a detailed request for information to my local 3M supplier/distributor... he's always been very helpful in these type of situations. I'll post if/when he sends any useful information.
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