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CFOGi 20th Anniversary Coverage by Boomtastic
Started on: 07-17-2003 09:28 AM
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Report this Post07-19-2003 10:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoomtasticClick Here to visit Boomtastic's HomePageSend a Private Message to BoomtasticDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Red86SEautox:

WOW! Thank you so much! Are there any more pictures of this one?

I'm blown away after looking at all those...keep them coming!

Sadly, that (out of focus) shot is the only one I have. Hopefully someone got a better pic! (That's what you get when you jump the gun and shoot the car when the camera is still focusing. *oops!*)

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Originally posted by beachbomb:

Boom, how come the '90 has a Trans Am nose badge on it?...jim

Good question! And one that no one asked during the Q&A session we had at the banquet.

As far as I can speculate, it appears that the Fiero & Firebird *may* have been at a merging point, and one or the other may have been going the way of the dodo bird. This would explain the Fiero chassis, as well as the "Trans Am" nose badge and the 3rd generation style speedo cluster ..

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Report this Post07-19-2003 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Red86SEautoxClick Here to visit Red86SEautox's HomePageSend a Private Message to Red86SEautoxDirect Link to This Post
Damn, that car looks really sharp...lot's of custom work there. I'd love to see the rest..
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Report this Post07-19-2003 10:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoomtasticClick Here to visit Boomtastic's HomePageSend a Private Message to BoomtasticDirect Link to This Post
FWIW - The webcam will be online until midnight tonight.

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Report this Post07-19-2003 10:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jelly2m8Send a Private Message to jelly2m8Direct Link to This Post
Eric, quick question, I see what looks to be a 2nd actual pace car that was parked down by the First Fiero.

Was that brought by GM, or is it a clone?

Thx again for the pics dude!

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Report this Post07-19-2003 10:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Riceburner98Send a Private Message to Riceburner98Direct Link to This Post
Here's the best one I've got... Anyone know if this was made from a mold of the original one? (The maroon one across the row from this one...) Or if this was a "2-off", made from scratch to look like the other one..?

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Report this Post07-19-2003 10:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Red86SEautoxClick Here to visit Red86SEautox's HomePageSend a Private Message to Red86SEautoxDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Riceburner! Damn, I like the look of that!
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There's a post somewhere on here where the original one was made.. It's a maroon car, and was in the oppositte row as this one.. Not sure where the original post is, but it was something like "should I make molds for this nose"..
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Sweet front end! Made from a mold. Will be doing some reinforcing on stress points. Should be available sometime around late fall or winter.
Kris also said it was too difficult ot make the front fenders (too bad) too many compound curves.
His name is "Kris' Fiero" in Fl. He said that his PFF name is kmunson56.
BTW, I am first in line for a front end, no cuts.
I will be doing that front end with smoked lens over the turn signals.

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Originally posted by jelly2m8:

Eric, quick question, I see what looks to be a 2nd actual pace car that was parked down by the First Fiero.

Was that brought by GM, or is it a clone?

Thx again for the pics dude!

Jelly -

Technically there were 3 "original" Pace Cars here (not including retail replicas):

a) THE Pace Car (from the Indy Museum)

Notice the cutout in the rear tail lamp for the ABC camera.

Closeup Shot

b) A 'backup' Indy Pace Car (No hole in tail lamp. Maybe more differences that I didn't see due to it being closed most of the day.)

c) A PPG Pace Car

And you're welcome for the pics. I'm just saddened that you and everyone else that couldn't make it weren't here to witness these cars first hand. What an amazing past 3 days these have been!!!


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DAMN, Boomtastic, you're right! We got questions like "Are they going to bring back the Fiero" instead of "Why is the '90 have a GTA Trans Am nose badge"!!

But we did hear Hulki apparently likes those N*'s...heheh. ...And that the Twin turbo all aluminum v8 fiero was blowing away the c5 protos...

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Report this Post07-20-2003 01:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTFiero1Send a Private Message to GTFiero1Direct Link to This Post
theres a Trans Am badge on the front because the Fiero badge was missing and they just stuck that in its place
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Boomtastic,

I didn't see a handbrake lever for the 90 prototype. Is it there or just hidden from camera view? Looks like it was relocated.
Was the fuel lever moved too?

Ohh, and does anyone have more pictures of the interior of the 90? like gauges, sunroof area, radio. Like a 360* view.

Looks fantastic.

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Report this Post07-20-2003 01:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTFiero1Send a Private Message to GTFiero1Direct Link to This Post
anybody else notice the similarity between the seats in the 2+2 Fiero and 4th gen Trans Am seats?
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Originally posted by Riceburner98:

What is the deal with this car? It looks like a notchback with a funky aftermarket fastback clip.

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thats the PPG car they they modified before the actual fastback came out in 86
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Report this Post07-20-2003 01:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OneredfieroClick Here to visit Oneredfiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to OneredfieroDirect Link to This Post
I got a question. On the turbo are there any pics of the deck lid up. Wundering how the intercooler tubes connect to the engine yet it's in the wing. Thank you.
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Thanks for all the pics. But did anyone get some pictures of the rear of the convertable?
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Oh Such Sexy Cars.

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Did anyone get a take on what the GM reps thought of the 20th? Or of the owner cars that showed up?

I am wondering about the frame braceing on the factory convertible. Did anyone get a look?
TG

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Originally posted by beachbomb:

Boom, how come the '90 has a Trans Am nose badge on it?...jim

That's EXACTLY what my mother said when I showed her the video last night!

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Heartbroken that I couldn't be there, but the all the coverage helps.

BUT, where's the show-winners list?

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The winners were confusing, even if you were there. The only time they actually said what car won was for the "best of show" awards at the end - when everyone was screaming out "what car is it??". All the awards were just called by name, so I (and I'm sure a lot of other people) had no idea what car won most of them.. I know Purple Reign (sp?) got the hard luck award, for blowing up his NOS 3800SC engine on the way back from Waterford..
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Originally posted by Riceburner98:
I know Purple Reign (sp?) got the hard luck award, for blowing up his NOS 3800SC engine on the way back from Waterford..

Oh man...it blew again? He JUST rebuilt it...after it blew after only 700 miles..

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Originally posted by Red86SEautox:

Thanks Riceburner! Damn, I like the look of that!

I've got a few more pics of that one, if you're intertesd let me know and I'll go though my memory and try and find 'em for ya.

*EDIT*
Found 'em These are downsized for PIP, if you want the original 1600x1200 ones I have, let me know and I can e-mail you or send 'em to you with AIM.

Here's the maroon one that was across the row:


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Originally posted by Riceburner98:

The only time they actually said what car won was for the "best of show" awards at the end - .

Who won "Best of Show"..?? (90' deserved t..lol)

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Report this Post07-20-2003 10:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LT188GTSend a Private Message to LT188GTDirect Link to This Post
Thank you for all work in posting pics and info for those of us unable to attend.

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Report this Post07-20-2003 11:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sastianClick Here to visit sastian's HomePageSend a Private Message to sastianDirect Link to This Post
Information on the official CFOGi 20th Anniversary Commemorative DVD will be announced here.
http://dv.sastian.com

trailer and order form will be up later this week.

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Originally posted by sastian:

Information on the official CFOGi 20th Anniversary Commemorative DVD will be announced here.
http://dv.sastian.com

trailer and order form will be up later this week.

Christian Sass
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If it's the Official CFOGi DVD, Why isn't it going to be announced on the Official CFOG-i website? http://www.cfogi.org/
Will it be available from CFOGi's website store?

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Originally posted by Boomtastic:

The prototypes ARE HERE! Here's you're 89/90 teaser photo:

I'm headed downstairs in a few minutes to shoot more pictures.

Bump as this was the FIRST picture of the 90 to be posted here...

Thank's again for the picture's for those lessfortunate and unable to make it there...

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Originally posted by maryjane:
If it's the Official CFOGi DVD, Why isn't it going to be announced on the Official CFOG-i website? http://www.cfogi.org/
Will it be available from CFOGi's website store?

It is going to be announced on the CFOGi website, as well as here on Pennock's. Expected release date is December 1. Pre-orders were taken at the show, and orders will be able to be taken soon over the web.
Forum members may want to contact me for any details on the DVD, as I am involved and I am on the Forum daily. Christian Sass is the producer, but visits here rarely.

There will be an official thread about the DVD soon.

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correction:

"VISITED" would be a better word...
Ill be on. and yes, its official.

sastian DV is the production house developing the DVD. more detail will come tomorrow. as I had little sleep working on it all weekend. saw very little more than the inside of the Marriott, AN I WAS THERE!

Its gonna be great guys. just hang on to your hats.

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Report this Post07-21-2003 12:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoomtasticClick Here to visit Boomtastic's HomePageSend a Private Message to BoomtasticDirect Link to This Post
I'll try and answer all of the unanswered questions from this thread here/now.

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I didn't see a handbrake lever for the 90 prototype. Is it there or just hidden from camera view? Looks like it was relocated.
Was the fuel lever moved too?

Ohh, and does anyone have more pictures of the interior of the 90? like gauges, sunroof area, radio. Like a 360* view.

Looks fantastic.

I don't know about the brake lever. I wasn't looking for it. Fuel lever was removed (not necessary) as the door nor opens without a cable. Interior, other than the 3rd Gen dash pod, looked stock - except that the headlamp & trunk switches were in the center console between the window switches.

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anybody else notice the similarity between the seats in the 2+2 Fiero and 4th gen Trans Am seats?

All day long!

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I got a question. On the turbo are there any pics of the deck lid up. Wundering how the intercooler tubes connect to the engine yet it's in the wing. Thank you.

Two tubes made from what looked like heater ducting came down and to the engine. It went from the intercooler down the trunk lid and into the engine compartment, right down the center. I saw them VERY briefly, then the hood got closed - right before I knew what I was looking at and before I had a chance to snap a picture.

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But did anyone get some pictures of the rear of the convertable?

There may be some on my site. It had a hard boot on it if that helps ..

TennT said:

 
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Did anyone get a take on what the GM reps thought of the 20th? Or of the owner cars that showed up?
I am wondering about the frame braceing on the factory convertible. Did anyone get a look?

The "GM reps" were actually GM employees who were also Michigan Fiero Club members. I spoke with Ken briefly, but he was so busy we didn't get to discuss much. Sorry, no shot of the convertible bracing. (Slipped my mind)

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BUT, where's the show-winners list?

I believe that is being posted elsewhere here. If not, let me know (email) and I'll get it online.

Smooth & LT188GT both gave props for pictures. Guys, you are all welcome. I can't explain what you missed. I could try and tell you about it but I wouldn't do it justice.

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Originally posted by litespd:

Oh man...it blew again? He JUST rebuilt it...after it blew after only 700 miles..

Yes unfortunatly it's done AGAIN.........this time cylinder 4 took it's turn.

P.S. the first one blew after only 7 miles.................

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Steve Guenthert had CFOG permission to create the official DVD...I take it you two are working together and therefore you are the co-Producer correct?

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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:

Yes unfortunatly it's done AGAIN.........this time cylinder 4 took it's turn.

P.S. the first one blew after only 7 miles.................

man, you're gonna be hearin about this for a while...

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Originally posted by Fierochic88:

Steve Guenthert had CFOG permission to create the official DVD...I take it you two are working together and therefore you are the co-Producer correct?

Jen
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Hi Jen!

Sastian is the producer of the CFOG/MFC video, and will be using much of the footage that I shot for this event, as well as footage from other contributors. I was originally planning to do the DVD myself, before I found out that others were involved in similar projects. Because I am having surgery soon, I felt that people would be better served by another producer who could devote more time to the project. I had doubts on how fast I could produce the DVD while still recovering from surgery. I will be involved in the creative process, but Christian Sass is the producer with the final say.

I will, however, be developing other DVD's at a later time. I already have plans in motion for a DVD devoted entirely to the prototypes.

Also, as I have mentioned in other threads, I have hours and hours of quality footage. If anyone has requests to see small clips of specific things, I will capture them and make them available. For example, there will be no way to fit every single award presentation on the DVD so anybody who won an award can request the clip of them receiving their award at the banquet. Just e-mail me if you want something!

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Okay Steve! Just wanted to make sure you didn't get shut out since you were doing such an awesome job. There better be some go-kart footage of the awesome Chris Moore crash!

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The footage of that crash is great! You should see the look on Chris's face!
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Originally posted by HYPTNOTiSE:

I mean come on people. Get with it. THis was your chance to go balls to the wall and you didn't. What a damn shame.

And am I wrong or did CrazyD and his badass v8 car setup for autocross not run there? I didn't see his car in any of the pics. He not backup any of his big talk again??

Mike,

You obviously have never even driven on a road course, so you need to stop trash-talking other people who actually did it. You are making a complete ass of yourself.

If you've ever ridden in a go-kart and have also watched them, you know that it feels a whole lot faster when you're actually driving than when you're standing on the sidelines. Videos cannot do justice to the experience of driving on a real racetrack. Not to mention that I would never be on the same track with you, because anyone who would drive as you say you would (even though it's all ) is a lethal weapon to himself and to everyone around him.

I tried to make it there but my left rear tire exploded about 30 miles from the track on Rt. 24 just south of the hotel, and I had to overnight another set from Tire Rack but there was no way to get them there in time. And that was just the beginning of my troubles during the weekend.

You on the other hand, didn't even try.

Dave

[This message has been edited by crazyd (edited 07-22-2003).]

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