I believe Rob Bartlett (MinnGreenGT) also has one in his sig pic. Has anyone found a way to make these functional in some way other than just looking cool?
BTW this is not meant to spark any discussion about what they look like, or whether or not you like them, or why would you want to do that, I just want to know if anyone has made them work as an air intake for cabin ventilation or some sort of engine compartment intake. Like the Maclaren F1:
OK...OK...so you don't actually need it, I was just curious, I couldn't do it anyway because of the sunroof. As for the Finale, it has a sloped rear glass so the scoop which wraps over the roof and window (like on the Maclaren) may be doable. A functioning over the roof scoop like this would make an interesting custom effect on the Finale. Here are some manipulated pics I did a couple of years ago of the Fino with a scoop:
Can't give credit for the original pictures, I believe they came from the pre-Archie site but I could be wrong.
Ira
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I have a design for a roof scoop for the sunroof.(still in R&D) Basicly what is involved is to have a fiberglass piece made in the same dementions as the glass with a low profile scoop molded inot that. The tabs would be incorporated same as the glass. Lovered vents on the inside part.
Both will fit under the front trunk area when not in use. ie. rain, carwashing. Just take one off and replace it with the other. very simple!!!
Mine's not completed yet (hot/humid weather sucks, and I just haven't felt "motivated" lately).
But yes, it is (or will be) fully functional. I purchased a roof vent (to go inside the scoop) off a WRX/WRC Rally Car (from Primitive Racing in Washington State).
Here's a pic or two to give you an idea of how it all works.
Here's the scoop I'm using (this is Jch 82's car - currently non-functional).
Here's the scoop positioned on my roof skin:
And the vent itself (guaranteed to seal):
And another of the scoop a little farther along:
...lots of projects in the works, but only a little time to work on them!
Looks good Rob, I was thinking of what revin posted, and a design like yours built into a fiberglass sunroof replacement panel would be really cool. That way I could try it on my car and not have to give up the great days of removing the roof. I could remove the scoop panel and store it at home while leaving the glass panel stored in the front compartment.
This is also great for me since I do not have AC and, even up here, we get enough hot days to make driving uncomfortable.
Can't wait to see yours finished Rob.
Ira
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anyone have a view from the top of the car? like straight on as if you were looking directly at it? I have an idea I would like to sketch out but need a picture of the top rear of a fiero, any woudl do really, notch or fastback.
Thanks Rob, too bad the pictures are so amall. It looks like he was lining up the leading edge of the scoop with the panel but then letting the trailing edge extend back over the roof. This simplifies finding an appropriate scoop.
I was thinking, do a mold of the sunroof panel (inside and out)and then lay out the two layers. In the bottom layer install the rally air intake, and then mold the scoop into the top layer (could actually make the mold with the scoop in place). Mount the attachment hardware to the bottom layer and then bond them together. The result is that only the edge line would show from outside, and inside would be a smooth ceiling with the vent in the centre. Add the correct hexagonal grill material and you have the rally look and function too.
Any fiero custom parts builders want to try this? I won't charge anything for the idea just send me one when you are finished
Ira
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Posts: 1026 From: Marietta,OH,USA Registered: Nov 1999
Thanks Rob, too bad the pictures are so amall. It looks like he was lining up the leading edge of the scoop with the panel but then letting the trailing edge extend back over the roof. This simplifies finding an appropriate scoop.
I was thinking, do a mold of the sunroof panel (inside and out)and then lay out the two layers. In the bottom layer install the rally air intake, and then mold the scoop into the top layer (could actually make the mold with the scoop in place). Mount the attachment hardware to the bottom layer and then bond them together. The result is that only the edge line would show from outside, and inside would be a smooth ceiling with the vent in the centre. Add the correct hexagonal grill material and you have the rally look and function too.
Any fiero custom parts builders want to try this? I won't charge anything for the idea just send me one when you are finished
Ira
Very well thought out! Actually that is essentially how I was going to do it. I even still have the scoop hanging out in the rafters of the garage somewhere. I had every intention of finishing this project and makeing it functional, but after starting it I have changed my mind of the type of "style" that I was going for. If anyone is still interested in seeing how far I got with makeing a replacement sunroof panel with scoop let me know and I will try to dig it out and take some pictures.
Mine's not completed yet (hot/humid weather sucks, and I just haven't felt "motivated" lately).
But yes, it is (or will be) fully functional. I purchased a roof vent (to go inside the scoop) off a WRX/WRC Rally Car (from Primitive Racing in Washington State).
Here's a pic or two to give you an idea of how it all works.
Here's the scoop I'm using (this is Jch 82's car - currently non-functional).
Here's the scoop positioned on my roof skin:
And the vent itself (guaranteed to seal):
And another of the scoop a little farther along:
...lots of projects in the works, but only a little time to work on them!
Wow Rob that is awesome. Im speachless.
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Monza- simliar to an RV vent, but not quite the same. I guess I should've posted the link with the other info
Cory- It was purchased from Primitive Racing out of Washington State (from Paul Ecklund) at http://www.get-primitive.com/ (look under body parts, then under roof & hood vents). You may want to go ahead and email Paul and see what he has available, as there are a few variations. Mine is steel and came used off another car... at the time he also had an aluminum one for about $10 more.
One thing to take note of, the vent is designed to be opened front or backwards up to 6" hight - and thus needs to be "restricted" so that it doesn't exceed the height of the inside of the fiberglass scoop (I'll be putting some "stoppers" in mine before the final install).
BTW: I too looked at the CF ones you listed... very nice piece, but I didn't think it was exactly what I was going for
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Posts: 1753 From: Blowing Rock, NC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
How are you planning the interior on the headliner? And how much airflow do you think this will actually put in?
Sorry so many questions, I just want to get started on this..
No problem, glad to be of some help.
For the headliner & interior... I'm just going to cut a hole and wrap the fabric in - I don't know if I'll do anything else until I get a little farther into the project.
Airflow? Ummm... I don't really know for sure - enough to be useful, but probably not so much that I'd eliminate my A/C
My neck is still a little sore.. 
