If so I have that Hot Rod somewhere, but I don't remember it mentioning a 9 sec Fiero.
Yes I remember it saying it was a 9 second drag car but with the motor in the rear and it wasnt stock frame but it really impressed me being that it was a 4 cylinder. Im not sure what it had for a trans and not sure if it was transverse or not but I am assuming it wasnt
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Oreif Member
Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
I think he means the Rod Shops Pro-Stock Fiero. It had a front mounted SD4 on a tube chassis. I rolled down the 1/4 mile in like 9.3-9.5 seconds. There is an article in the Pontiac Performance Plus magazine (published thru Hot Rod Magazine) on how the engine was built. The car was on the cover. The magazine is all the SD4 information and build specs. It includes all parts with part numbers to build the SD4's.
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
There are also a couple Fiero's running in the 8's with front mounted V8's (carbed), they aren't streetable, but they certainly are quick!!!! Have also seen photos of 2 heavy duty Supercharged Front Engine Fieros, not times included with photos.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
I think he means the Rod Shops Pro-Stock Fiero. It had a front mounted SD4 on a tube chassis. I rolled down the 1/4 mile in like 9.3-9.5 seconds. There is an article in the Pontiac Performance Plus magazine (published thru Hot Rod Magazine) on how the engine was built. The car was on the cover. The magazine is all the SD4 information and build specs. It includes all parts with part numbers to build the SD4's.
Oreif, I think I know what car you are talking about but I distinctly remember that this was a rear engine SD that was used as a drag car, not autocross or roadracing.I am not sure what trans it was running. I may very well have mixed it up as far as 1/4 mile times with the tube front engine one you are talking about though.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
Yeah that's the one I was thinking of, Yellow Fiero, black slash type graphics, and about 12 small square headlights accross the front.
I bought that mag new back in 87 and in 93 let my cousin borrow it. I have never gotten it back although I remember it talking about the SD bumblebee Fiero and didnt it also talk about the Zumwalt that had adual tunnelram 400 SBC that what quoted as saying "It will pull a Porsche real good at about 180mph?"
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The_Raven Member
Posts: 203 From: Brantford Ontario Registered: Aug 2003
Yeah that's the one I was thinking of, Yellow Fiero, black slash type graphics, and about 12 small square headlights accross the front.
I bought that mag new back in 87 and in 93 let my cousin borrow it. I have never gotten it back although I remember it talking about the SD bumblebee Fiero and didnt it also talk about the Zumwalt that had adual tunnelram 400 SBC that what quoted as saying "It will pull a Porsche real good at about 180mph?"
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Yep that's the one, but the "pull a Porsche" part was IIRC in refernce to the Bumblebee, with the DOHC 2.5 Iron duke.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
No way would this car get close to 9's. Don't recall the times they got out of the car, but it would be lucky to run 12's unless it had been stripped of everything not necessary for quarter mile racing.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
No way would this car get close to 9's. Don't recall the times they got out of the car, but it would be lucky to run 12's unless it had been stripped of everything not necessary for quarter mile racing.
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Theres my mag!! I wish I hadnt let my cousin borrow it. I know they were quoting times in the 12s or 13s with that car, plus it had special experimental 17 inch wheels that hadnt been available to the public yet. It just seems to me that when they quote saying that it would pull a porsche real good at about 180, they were talking about the zumwalt car with the 400sbc with the dual tunnelram setup that had Pontiac heads on it. I didnt really believe they had it up to 180 at least on the street but I wouldnt doubt it could go that fast if high rpm enough and right gearing. I think it was running a 125c which blew me away, I thought for sure that trans wont last long
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California Kid Member
Posts: 9541 From: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan Registered: Jul 2001
Would it even be possible to fit a big block on the cradle with an archie kit? I know zumwalt did it, but I dunno if archie's kit could do it. I know you have to have different mounts but the plate would be the same. If I remeber right, I think I made a thread about this in technical a while back.
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The_Raven Member
Posts: 203 From: Brantford Ontario Registered: Aug 2003
Your right. I have some literature on this car too, but it is not scanned in. I was told that this car is still running and that the owner of "Mr. Gasket" owns it. There is also an "Accell" (sp?) car that is of the same design. I don't know what happened to it.
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litespd Member
Posts: 8128 From: No where you want to be Registered: Aug 99
There's another thread on this car currently, discussing what was in it for an engine at the show. I thought I heard that it now had a V6 in it...can anyone confirm or deny that?
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The_Raven Member
Posts: 203 From: Brantford Ontario Registered: Aug 2003
There's another thread on this car currently, discussing what was in it for an engine at the show. I thought I heard that it now had a V6 in it...can anyone confirm or deny that?
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So you're saying that the car is still around? Nice that is one car that I have always thought was a great assembly of looking at the not so tried and true way of making a performance car.
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Posts: 1158 From: Big Rapids, MI...Ferris State Registered: Nov 2002
There is also an "Accell" (sp?) car that is of the same design. I don't know what happened to it.
Accel still uses it. Its even on the cover or thier new parts catalog up at a pep-boys near me
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litespd Member
Posts: 8128 From: No where you want to be Registered: Aug 99
Also were there two of these cars? Cause the one on the mag looks different from the one that was at the 20th.
Other than the striping being a bit different on the door, and the disappearance of the supertrapps and the corresponding exhaust cover, what is different? Not trying to be a wise guy...I'm just curious as to what you see that's different.
(Edit..I just looked at the pics on Boomtastic's website...and the striping on the driver's door on the magazine cover and on the car at the 20th is the same...the striping on the passenger side door is different than the driver's side, and that's the side I had the pic of.)
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Posts: 1106 From: Tijeras, NM USA Registered: Jul 2003
(Edit..I just looked at the pics on Boomtastic's website...and the striping on the driver's door on the magazine cover and on the car at the 20th is the same...the striping on the passenger side door is different than the driver's side, and that's the side I had the pic of.)
The stripe colors flip-flop for each side. What is yellow on one side is black on the other (basically), including the first useage of the term "Formula" on a Fiero!
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R Runner Member
Posts: 3696 From: Scottsville, KY Registered: Feb 2003
Originally posted by R Runner: They look like 4 Supertraps. (which would make sense)
Paul
I believe they are talking about the filler panels that cover the 'stock' exhaust provisions in the bumper, not the actual exhaust tips (which yes, are supertrapps or similar)
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2Fast_Fiero Member
Posts: 1106 From: Tijeras, NM USA Registered: Jul 2003
Yes, Thanks Devotshka. I am sorry for not being more detailed at what I was talking about. My friends Dakota Mini Truck has a Rear Valance instead of a bumper, with his exhaust pipes going through it....I think they call it the Cuda Exhaust. Thats why I want covers for my exhaust or somethin....Make it more sleek.
A guy named Larry Morgan drove a Rod Shop prepared SD4 Fiero in the 80's, I believe super comp. Car ran in the 9's. Larry went on to pro stock and I haven't heard about him for a while. There was also a guy named Buddy Ingersol who drove a twin turbo 3.8 V6 Pro Stock Buick (smaller car, can't remember the model) I saw him race Ricky Smith in 88? at Kansas City International Raceway. Ricky was running one of the IHRA "mountain" motors, 700CU. Ricky beat him 7.32 to 7.34...Paul
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sardonyx247 Member
Posts: 5032 From: Nevada, USA Registered: Jun 2003
There is a guy here in Vegas (or close to) that has one of those original tube racers. He put a 350SBC V8 in it. it revs to 7000 and has 500HP. But he just runs it in the autocross here(beats everyone bad) but has never run it in the 1/4 mile. But after seeing that car it HAS TO be light weight. I,m sure it could do a 9.....oh yeah buy running that through the 1/4 mile calculators it should run low 9s or even 8s!.......But sadly he only does autocross
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The_Raven Member
Posts: 203 From: Brantford Ontario Registered: Aug 2003
A guy named Larry Morgan drove a Rod Shop prepared SD4 Fiero in the 80's, I believe super comp. Car ran in the 9's. Larry went on to pro stock and I haven't heard about him for a while. There was also a guy named Buddy Ingersol who drove a twin turbo 3.8 V6 Pro Stock Buick (smaller car, can't remember the model) I saw him race Ricky Smith in 88? at Kansas City International Raceway. Ricky was running one of the IHRA "mountain" motors, 700CU. Ricky beat him 7.32 to 7.34...Paul
Funny you should mention Buddy Ingersol, he is actually featured in the same issue of Hot Rod as mentioned above, I was reading it again the other night, that car is sweet and Buddy makes some good points in that article about his car being the closest thing to show room (of the time) than any other Pro-Stock car in the feild. In the article they call it a Regal, but it is actually a Skyhawk Hatch back body.
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tesmith66 Member
Posts: 7355 From: Jerseyville, IL Registered: Sep 2001
Funny you should mention Buddy Ingersol, he is actually featured in the same issue of Hot Rod as mentioned above, I was reading it again the other night, that car is sweet and Buddy makes some good points in that article about his car being the closest thing to show room (of the time) than any other Pro-Stock car in the feild. In the article they call it a Regal, but it is actually a Skyhawk Hatch back body.
Yea, Buddy tried NHRA and they wouldn't even talk to him, then he tried IHRA and ran for a while but was banned. Then AHRA finally let him run against the 700 cubers, but when he jacked up the boost and started winning, they banned him also. I saw the car in the pits and the front was one MASSIVE intercooler that he would cool between runs with dry ice. BTW this run with Ricky Smith was on a 98 degree day.........Paul
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GMGW3 Member
Posts: 471 From: West Allis, WI Registered: Dec 2001
I dont understand then what all the hub-bub is about to see who is going to be the first Fiero into the 10's, We have a V-8 transverse Fiero posted there thats been there and back with there claim to fame quite awhile ago already?
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