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Prepping the Indy..or.."What? The 20th is this coming weekend?" by Fiero5
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Report this Post07-13-2003 10:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
OMG, it's when????
Well, as we all know the 20th is now just around the corner later this coming week.
We figured we better get moving on prepping the Indy in time to cruise to the show

The hood looks "nice" but has lots of little dings, scratches and flaws in it.

Time to replace it with a "new" one.
Thanks again to Bob Parker at Kick Hill, we have a great looking hood that needs very little prep work before painting it.
Here the prep work is over and the painting begins:



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Report this Post07-13-2003 10:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
Oooh, purdy GM white


Drying time before the clear coat

Now we start work on the Indy scoop. It has a bunch of cracks and scuffs and stuff that first required repair:

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Due to the fact that this Indy scoop has actual working pace strobes mounted right inside the scoop, having a functional open scoop was out of the question without major redesign, time and work.
So, the more logical step was to at least make the scoop "look" functional.

More pics of this part of the scoop to come soon.

Back to the now painting of the scoop:





Drying time for the scoop before the clear coat:

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Now the first of many clear coats for the hood:


And now the clear on the scoop:

More prep pics to come real soon to Pennocks Fiero forum near you

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Report this Post07-13-2003 10:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KRMFieroSend a Private Message to KRMFieroDirect Link to This Post
wow nice work! I wish i could make it to the 20th but my new car still wont be registured in time.... I cant wait to see pictures of it....

Do you mind posting a few pictures of your engine?
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Wow! Cars looking good! Where did you get the scoop,I want one for my Indy!

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Report this Post07-14-2003 12:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Convertable Indy:

Wow! Cars looking good! Where did you get the scoop,I want one for my Indy!

We got the scoop originally because I was asked to pace a Nascar race with my Indy and we wanted to make the Indy look as close to the original one that paced the actual Indy 500 as possible. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/028745.html https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/028837.html https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/029088.html https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/029266.html https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/029463.html
As luck (or bad luck) would have it, everytime we have been scheduled to pace a race, it has gotten rained out
This weekend we might be able to, BUT we can't as this is the weekend of the 20th. That means it will be very nice here at the speedway this weekend LOL

Here are some publicity pics from the speedway from awhile back:



They had me park next to their pace car. I have to say I think my Indy looks a lot better.

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*sigh* i'm not going
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Originally posted by KRMFiero:

Do you mind posting a few pictures of your engine?
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Kyle

To see additional pics of my Indy like pics of the engine, go to this link: http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=210386&page=16
That is page 16 which is the page that has some pics of my Indy
Each page represents one of our Fieros.

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quote
Originally posted by Jaygee79:

*sigh* i'm not going


How come you can't make it?
I thought you and Josh were going?

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Originally posted by Fiero5:


How come you can't make it?
I thought you and Josh were going?

Steve

Josh couldn't get the time off from work, and I don't have the money for a hotel, or a ride to get there...my Fiero would never make it that far

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Report this Post07-15-2003 11:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
Going over the Indy, I see lots of things that bug me. This Indy is obviously not perfect by any means and to make it perfect would take a huge undertaking that we are just not prepared to undergo at this moment in time. However, don't get me wrong as this Indy represents itself well and looks really nice. It had 88k original miles on it when I got it and it now has 92k, showing just how little I actually drive this rare model.
If you come over to look at this Indy expecting to see a mint excellent example of an Indy Fiero pace car, you will no doubt be very dissapointed. But considering what it looked like when we got it and what little we have truly put into it, we think she is still a very nice example of this rare Fiero model.
So, keeping in mind that we just didn't have the time or resources to undergo major cosmetic fixes we looked it over to try and address the more obvious easily seen things that we could in a fairly short amount of time fix, repair or touch up.
Two areas that really stood out to us were 1) the hood and 2) the ground effects around the bottom of the Indy.
As you have allready seen above, we took care of the hood problem as best we could by getting another hood of the same color, wet sanding it down and then giving it a better paint job.
The second area was the ground effects. Even though I have put on very few miles on this Indy since we redid the paint on it last year, the ground effects are showing many scuffs, stone ships, scratches, etc.
So, I masked off the area above the ground effects all around the car, tracked down more of the Indy grey and here is some of our process of fixing this area:



Stupid spider webbing cracks


The masking comes off and we get to see the results of the effort. The clear coat over the painted ground effects not only finishes off the original look of them, but it should also help seal the paint while helping to keep smaller scuffs and stones from doing too much damage.

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Next we focused back on the Indy scoop.
As I mentioned earlier, cutting the opening out to make it functional was not a good idea as the electrical strobes and wiring are mounted inside the scoop. That would be OK on nice days, but if I ever got caught in a rain shower, that would obviously not be a good thing.
So we tried to at least make it look more functional than it did. I took some left over wire mesh from what I had used in the nose areas of Jordans F&F Fiero and made a grill effect in the front of the "opening" of the scoop.
Down the road we may actually cut out that area and then reseal it up further down inside so you actually will see a cut out effect at the front.
Anyway, here is how it looks so far:

It was getting late last night and I was getting exhausted from all the buffing:

We also tried to touch up the engine vent as it was also looking kinda crappy. That had mixed results:

That's it so far. More to come soon I'm sure

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Report this Post07-15-2003 08:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OneredfieroClick Here to visit Oneredfiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to OneredfieroDirect Link to This Post
Wow that's cool. A great big hole in the ozone due to the paint fuems. Sorry but i think there's laws against that. Unless it's a waterbased paint. At least theres laws up here in canada. The car dose look good but i'm against spraying outside.
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Report this Post07-15-2003 09:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Can't wait to see it at the show! Nice work!
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Report this Post07-17-2003 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
Remounting the finished scoop

Not too bad

This is the way the Indy spent most of the day yesterday. Between trying to detail the engine compartment and get the scoop remounted correctly, the rear deck lid seemed to be up most of the day

While this was going on, my Dad was attempting to work on his blue 87 GT as well

She is looking sweet!
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After the oil and filter change I decided to take her for a test drive.

I stopped to take a few pics

OK, Quiz time. As I was walking around the Indy taking a few pics in the parking lot, I suddenly noticed something important that I had forgotten to do

Can anyone spot it?

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Yeah, a license plate would be helpful!

Rob D.

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Originally posted by Jaygee79:

*sigh* i'm not going

Don't feel alone, we're not going either.

But at least I get a few Fiero's running this week!!

Rob D.

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Report this Post07-17-2003 09:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
Thanks Rob
Rob is right. I suddenly realized that I had left to go upstreet and had been driving around with NO plate at all. I don't run with a front plate anyways as most of you allready know
BUT, ooops LOL
I even saw a few police cars on the way up and back but no one said or did anything

Anyway, here are some more pics from late yesterday afternoon back home:



We will leaving for Michigan around 12:30pm today as soon as I get done with my digital movie making class I am teaching today.

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Report this Post07-17-2003 10:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
So, you going to take measurements off the real Indy's wheels at the 20th? get some accurate reproductions milled out for the indy
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Report this Post07-17-2003 11:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
My understanding is that the real Indy wheels were more of a basic 15 inch rim with hub caps over them. If you look at the pics of the real Indy real close you can see that they are "apparently" just fancy hub caps.
One way to know for sure though. Check out the real Indy at the show

See ya all there.

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Hey Fiero5 nice pace car! Ya ever want to meet the other v8 Fiero owner in NH sometime? p.s. was that your pace car I saw on 93N coming out of Boston a couple of weeks ago? A young lady was driving it. I tried to catch up but seeing I was in my work truck (gas tanker) I did'nt have a chance
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Report this Post07-17-2003 12:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
Sadly, I still have not received anything or heard back anything positive from anyone concerning my registration and all.
The few e-mails I got as a response from IvoryFiero@aol.com were both very short and kinda rude. That person did not seem to care or be willing to help and has since not responded to my latest e-mail request.
I realize that they are probably getting swamped with e-mails, but if they are going to take the time to respond as that is their position they should be at least a little more understanding and helpfull.
I hope this is not a sign of the way other people are handling this show, as after a long drive from NH I will not be in any kind of mood to deal with that kind of attitude when we get out there.

Sorry for the rant.

We are allready leaving late as it is

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vwaltdog, sorry that wasn't my Indy Fiero in Boston (that I am aware of anyway). Though I guess some girl could have borrowed it without me knowing but I doubt it.
Sure, I would love to meet you and see your sweet ride sometime.
When I get back from the 20th we will have to set up a time to hitch up.

See ya

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Have a good and SAFE trip Steve

Watch out for tractor trailer trucks merging

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The Indy looks the part with the wheels, tires and the scoop in place. Good luck Steve, hope you make a big hit at the 20th.

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Report this Post07-17-2003 03:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jaygee79Send a Private Message to Jaygee79Direct Link to This Post
Well I'm here Still waiting to check in though...
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Report this Post07-17-2003 04:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
THe ozone thing is from the propellant in spray cans, not the paint. Here in Ohio, just to show how stupid the laws are, you have to paint in an approved booth. You cant spray anywhere in the shop other than the booth. However, there is no restrictions to painting it outside....go figure. Even the city and state spray paint under bridges and guardrails with just a tarp to keep it off passing cars.
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Report this Post07-17-2003 06:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
I posted this in another thread, didn't know if you'd see it before you left for the show or not:

Fiero5, I did that with my 85 GT kit, and it turned out great. Having good decals is part of it though. I had to custom print mine. Since you have experience painting a real one, that shouldn't be a problem

ACTUALLY, if you want, and if you'll be at the Michigan show Saturday morning, I can drop off a few extra sets I printed. Just leave the window open a crack and I'll slip 'em in

And FieroRumor, those models are looking better all the time

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Report this Post07-19-2003 02:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero5Click Here to visit Fiero5's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero5Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

ACTUALLY, if you want, and if you'll be at the Michigan show Saturday morning, I can drop off a few extra sets I printed. Just leave the window open a crack and I'll slip 'em in

And FieroRumor, those models are looking better all the time


She's out in the parking lot right now.

2 am and I was just out washing my Indy! Is that love for the Fiero, pride and dedication or just stupidity?
Never mind, don't answer that

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Report this Post07-20-2003 01:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
SHOOT!!! I KNEW I should have checked the forum before I left for the show! I figured you wouldn't have internet access at the show, and would have posted that you wanted them before you left.

Maybe I could just mail them to you?

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Report this Post07-20-2003 03:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jubjub2m6Click Here to visit jubjub2m6's HomePageSend a Private Message to jubjub2m6Direct Link to This Post
im still amazed that you dont need like a paintbooth or anything just painting it outside...

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

SHOOT!!! I KNEW I should have checked the forum before I left for the show! I figured you wouldn't have internet access at the show, and would have posted that you wanted them before you left.

Maybe I could just mail them to you?

Sure, you can mail them. That would be great thanks.
I will PM you.

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The laws governing spraying of course vary from state to state. Here in Wisconsin, a 'hobbyist' can legally spray in his garage as long as he only sprays a limited amount of paint per year. If you happen to upset the neighbors, though, you can't spray at all. This applies only to private parties.

As for businesses, the spray booth is required for all spraying of paint. Primer can be sprayed anywhere in the shop. But, I believe that the rules for body shop spraying are written by OSHA, not the local jurisdictions......

As for worrying about the ozone layer, spraying outside is no different that spraying inside. The booth filters out the paint particles, not the thinners. And, IMHO, the ozone layer isn't affected by anything we do. Spray bomb propellent isn't a CFC.

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