Which company would you prefer to have all your products in your sound system made by?
Amp, Stero, Subs, Speakers.
Not a mix, just which company do you MAINLY Prefer. Which one do you think sounds best, sounds loudest, doesnt sound soo good or is just plain CRAP!

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Out of those, I like Pioneer. I don't like the sound from Kenwood anything. Alpine used to be nice, but nothing from them has interested me in some time.

My stereo consists of 3500 watts(RMS) of Pioneer & Audiobahn stuff.

I can get an upload linkup to download pictures and animations into my head unit

[This message has been edited by Joe Torma (edited 07-19-2003).]

If i had to pick just a single brand i think i would have to pick rockford fosgate. I've always been a RF fan. Im currently running a rf mp3 headunit 2 rf amps 1 dragster amp to dragster and audiobahn speakers through a audio controls crossover

[This message has been edited by neyven (edited 07-19-2003).]

Well, considering i sell Pioneer, Panasonic, Memphis, JL, Lightning, Rockford, PPI, Dragster, Zapco and Beyond Audio...

If you want to go REALLY loud in a vehicle with ample space, you go with 2 Memphis 1000D amps on a single quadcoil Beyond 18" sub...this makes you win competitions...trust me.

If you want SQ and reliability, Rockford's lineup this year has REALLY impressed me. Rockford's head units have a REAALY nice SQ feature - you can not get distortion out of the speakers if you run them off of an external amp (aka non-clipping pre-outs). YOu can crank the deck up all the way and the line won't clip/distort...most decks do this at 2/3 volume.

For speakers, JL has it hands down for SQ.

For subs, Rockford's stuff is nice, but Zapco has nicer SQ stuff (you pay for it tho).

Pioneer Decks are GREAT! (I use one, am selling for Rockford tho). They sound great, easy to use...etc

Dragster actually disappointed me. For the money, Memphis (everything) beat them hands down (quality was much better for memphis and the dragsters costed more.

We have discontinued Lightning and brought in Rockford this year...it has paid off.

just my 2 cents...PM me if you need something...

BTW - most products sound good and will be good....some are just better and more reliable...

Alpine (IMHO) is severely overpriced and dont sound ALL THAT GOOD (as in arent better than something priced at 2/3 the price)

ya ok that was worth 5 cents but ya :P

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ive always been a fan of precision power, MTX, panasonic, boston acoustics, and clarion stuff. My current system is panasonic, mtx and boston. I love it, sounds great, was not TOO expensive, and it fits!

Stay away from sony amps.. i destroyed one on my boston sub.. man it didnt take much

James Z

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i use a sony amp for my 6.5" speakers and wow that thing pushes them but man its not as efficient as my old PPI (had to sell it cause I needed money)

this thing is almost instantly hot...

its prolly got a 30% used energy efficiency... lol

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[This message has been edited by 2Fast_Fiero (edited 07-19-2003).]

Why exactly do you want a single brand in your car? Almost all the time you can get better sound if you mix and match.

Rockford.. everything

9200 deck
2 HX2 10" subs (I have one, need to get the other still)
2 700.2 amps (I think that is the series, I have one of them)
rockford 4" components for the pillars
modify the front to fit 6x9's

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quote Originally posted by soup: All well said. Zapco is by far the best amps on the market. I don't believe that is ever contested.

Damn skippy

quote Beyond is great... but... lol.. its a little overkill. Those boys sure made a great sub. But can you even buy it anywhere other than Saskatoon? And I heard that they arent allowed in competitions due to something like they arent a registered brand name or something. Is this true?

Actually, the story goes like this...

Don (the maker of all that is Beyond) went to the World DB Drag finals with one of his vehicles..not sure which one.. Rockford (lol) complained and being the big sponsor that they are, said that there had to be a rule saying that Joe Blow couldnt just make his own 21" sub and enter it and win (makes sense, doesnt it?). They basically said that in order to compete, the manufacturer needs to sell X amount of products per year...so Don had to sell X (i dont know how many) number of subs...

I am not actually sure if they let him compete or not...i'l have to ask don next time i see him.

quote I am thinking of selling my pioneer deck for a rockford as well. Pioneer is awesome, but rockford not only this year, but the past 3 years, have really out done themselves in almost every field of car audio. I am just a sucker for rockford, so that is why I am going to be going all rockford, but if I had to actually pick the best system, I would go beyond subs, 2 zapco 1150 amps to run everything, and JL evolution (do they still have that series) components all the way around. Probably add some kick panels as well. Just to even out the midrange, because those beyonds will make my car a tavelling earthquake So you guys picked up rockford, and audio warehouse dropped it for lightning. That is a little odd. I was talking to the sask district rockford/lightning rep. I forget his name, but he was saying that lightning is moving up to be high end rockford.

That's warehouse for ya...

The rep's name eludes me too...but I just talked to him and he bags lightning 24/7 lol..

And yes, lightning is owned by rockford...I really am not sure how long lightning is going to be around tho...

quote Personally I hate lightning ever since their first year. At the stereo shop where my bro was working, they brough in 12 10". WIthin 6 months, 8 of them came back. My brother showed me them, and I have never smelt or seen a voice coil burnt up that badly. Looked more like a slinky after. lol

LOL..i've seen this much too often LOL

There ya go.

quote Originally posted by Manic Mechanic: Why exactly do you want a single brand in your car? Almost all the time you can get better sound if you mix and match.

Why is because thats just how I am. I understand that the best systems are mix and matched. I'm kinda the type of guy that wants his car under the big display at a car show showing off his **** . My Accord was allways in the middle of the Pioneer Display playing Orbital (Techno).

quote modify the front to fit 6x9's

The door panels I'm using allready has a 6.5" Hole in the door kinda facing the center of the car, and in the door has a hole for a 1" Tweeter. This plan might change if the Dash don't fit right. But I do agree that 6x9's are friggin awsome for sound. I had a set of 6x9's on the rear deck in my Accord.

You should invest in a good pager alarm and a wireless x10 cam for the dash that sends video to a VCR. My next big project.

Yea, I plan on doing that. My Ex Room mate got one for her Mirage, that sucker is cool. Iluminated Display on the pager, tells you which doors are open, bugs the ish out of you if someone breaks the alarm, alerts you when someone is near your car. And starts your car. It even starts the car, but is only made for Automatic tranies. I plan on fixing that to have it start a 5SPD as long as its out of gear.

i used to be huge into car audio and honestly i think all those brands are just, well garbage! i love my JVC deck (kdsh-909) i have now i would so suggest it to everyone, i had a kenwood,pionner, and a panasonic deck die out on me...... for spkrs i loved my infinity kappa's...but i will give fosgate some credit very nice amps...

just some thought if you plan to run a sub honestly instead of running 2 amps *cause i been there you get a sub u have to amp the highs or the sub will drown um out* ppi makes a 6channel amp PC6600 that will run sub and all the highs...

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But can that 6 Channel Amp run 500Watts Nominal in 2 Bass Chanels @ 1 Ohm Stable?

I heard my friends Pioneer IMPP 12" 500W Subs running off of a 1200W Rockford Amp and OMFG! That was IMPRESIVE. A55 Hole allways woke me up when he got home from cruizing. That was in a Hatchback 93 Integra Special Edition. Now I'm sure that kind of power would be more impresive with the subs right behind you.

you /COULD/ do that, but it wouldnt sound the best...

I DJ part time so i know awhat you're talking about..either Piezzo's or horns...prolly piezzo's

I would stay away from them...they are pretty harsh sounding. Rear speakers don't do all that much in a fiero, but if you are going for it, get 4x6 plates and custom mount them (or just get a GOOD 4" co-ax speaker and custom mount it...)

FieroAudio, Your cool. Thanks for the help. I emailed Rockford Fosgate on some products. Mainly I emailed them on all thier decks with the 5V on up Preamp Outputs. But I have a question I didn't ask them...

The deck I'm looking at has 3 sets of 5V PreAmp Outputs, the Bass Amplifier I looked at says on its IMPUT that its 6V...will I have any conflict here?
I choose great component speakers which are 50W Nominal and 100W Max and a nice 2 Channel Amp that will push 50W Nominal X 2 and 100W Max x 2. I also looked at all thier subs and its down to 2 Subs right now. Both are DVC's, but one says its 2 Ohms, and one says its 4 Ohms. I'm gonna go study my wireing diagram now to get everything wired up perfectly.

quote Originally posted by 2Fast_Fiero: FieroAudio, Your cool. Thanks for the help. I emailed Rockford Fosgate on some products. Mainly I emailed them on all thier decks with the 5V on up Preamp Outputs. But I have a question I didn't ask them... The deck I'm looking at has 3 sets of 5V PreAmp Outputs, the Bass Amplifier I looked at says on its IMPUT that its 6V...will I have any conflict here?

The deck has 3 preouts - 2 are 5v and 1 is 6v? Huh? Which model is this?

Or are you looking at deck that hs 5v preouts and an amp that has a 6v input?

If so, no problem there..the amp will take upa to 6v..do you have model numbers? because rockfords should take up to at least 10v inputs...

quote I choose great component speakers which are 50W Nominal and 100W Max and a nice 2 Channel Amp that will push 50W Nominal X 2 and 100W Max x 2.

That should be perfect...ALWAYAS AMPLIFY YOUR SPEAKERS - i mean never use the on-deck amplifier if you want good sound...a 50x4 deck puts out maybe 20W...and its sh!t power

quote I also looked at all thier subs and its down to 2 Subs right now. Both are DVC's, but one says its 2 Ohms, and one says its 4 Ohms. I'm gonna go study my wireing diagram now to get everything wired up perfectly.

Are you putting 1 sub in your car or 2? if you're only putting one in and intend on only ever getting 1, get the 2 ohm version...you'll get more output out of a Class D (mono block sub amp)...If you want 2, get athe 4 ohm, becausea you would wire it to the amp as 2 ohm...

Sorry for the misplaced a's..my keboard is sh!t

I plan on doing 2 Subs, one each behind the seat. Both the subs I looked at has a mounting depth of 5"s. Which is PERFECT for my enclosure. Wouldn't it be better to run both the 2 Ohm Subs and wire them up to be 1 Ohm? Or would that Amp run better at 2 Ohms?
I don't have model Numbers yet. But I'll post them here in a minute. I'm going to check my Email now to see if RF Replied to my Email on thier Prices.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FieroAudio:

Since when is the biggest car audio company in the world garbage? (Rockford)
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hey i like fosgate thats some good stuff!

Generally, the "good stuff" is never on sale at Circuit City etc., and often, the BEST stuff have product names you've never even heard of. To get into this big time, you have to see what products the National IASCA winners are using, and you must do lots of research and comparison of products that don't use inflated specifications that make their products seem impressive.

Most people haven't heard of the brands in my car:
MB Quart speakers - separates (for front staging)
OZ Audio subs
Mcintosh amplifier
Audio Control equalizer
KEF cross-overs
DENON deck and changer

The only readily recognizable car audio items I have are Alpine 4x6 plates for the rear, and the rear fill quality only has to be "good". For the rest you want products that are considered excellent or better.

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I've heard of all of those brands. There's a sale at my States Fair Grounds that has all of the major companies every 5 years. They don't sell Pioneer or Rockford Fosgate, those are too low quality. But I've seen 1000W DVC 12" subs for like 50 bucks, They are going to have the sale here pretty soon.

Fierosound is right on. I also have been in both home audio, and car audio for many years. Those brands are great, and yes RF is very good too. I used to have a massive system in a little scirroco that had RF, Soundstream, and a JBL 1500 (the first 1000 watt sub)that system was amazing. Generally speaking car audio is about impact stereo. Unless you go with image dynamics, Zapco, and other really high end stuff car audio should be about nice clean sound. Bass that is tight, but can drop low, and the rest of the system "clean". Unless a person wants to compete and win the difference is not worth it compared to cost. I have heard Richard Clarks award winning grand national years ago (waveguides) and the home audio co. I worked for installed a 300K home audio theatre in Greg Jeffries home. Yes that is 300 thousand dollars, it was for the whole house, and security. But his theatre room was over a 100k alone. I know what I'm talking about after hearing some of the best sound possible come out of speakers. Car or home the systems are best when mixed and matched, except speakers. Plus they are hand built with extreme attention to detail. Crimp (or sodder), brace properly, run the proper size wires to everything! Check your distances, understand how wavelength's work, and why.

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Yes, I understand that. Once again! But I'm too much into Matching. I enjoyed having my Accord sitting in the middle of the Pioneer Display with a big a55 Pioneer Electronics banner hanging above my car at the local car shows. My car for being an older car, got more attention then these newer cars that didn't have any advertisements hanging around them. I even had a Pioneer Certified Sales Rep with a few of Pioneers top notch products at a booth next to my car. Altho he is a friend and works at Ultimate Electronics, He's Certified in tons of brands including alpine, Rockford, Pioneer.

rockford amp and subs all the way. Pioneer all around inside are the best I've heard so far.

quote Originally posted by fierosound: Generally, the "good stuff" is never on sale at Circuit City etc., and often, the BEST stuff have product names you've never even heard of. To get into this big time, you have to see what products the National IASCA winners are using, and you must do lots of research and comparison of products that don't use inflated specifications that make their products seem impressive. Most people haven't heard of the brands in my car: MB Quart speakers - separates (for front staging) OZ Audio subs Mcintosh amplifier Audio Control equalizer KEF cross-overs DENON deck and changer The only readily recognizable car audio items I have are Alpine 4x6 plates for the rear, and the rear fill quality only has to be "good". For the rest you want products that are considered excellent or better.

Agreed!

BUT, Rockford has 5 dedicated systems this year in SQ Competition (and they are placing very well)...Not saying they are the be all and end all, but they are good.

If I were to have a dream system, I'd have a Nachamichi head unit, Zapco Amps, JL subs and Speakers and home theatre wiring...Every wire would be in a seperate copper pipe (most efficient for noise blockage)

yes, thats going pretty far, but if you want to win, you want to win..

if you want to stick to one company, go Rockford, but you have to go with the good stuff

Bottom line as with any stereo purchase - YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Yea, I'm starting to like Rockford Fosgate. I just need to figure out the prices of the Decks I'm looking at. And find out where to get them from. Ultimate Electronics allways carries the entire feild of Rockford, Alpine, Kenwood, JVC and Pioneer. I might score a job there.

quote Originally posted by 2Fast_Fiero: The decks I'm not sure on yet. But if you say that the Imput on the Amp that says 6V meaning thats the maximum it will take, then I don't have much of a choice then, half of those decks are 5V, the other half are 8V. I realy like the last deck I displayed, but I'm sure thats like an $800+ Deck. The two Subs I displayed are the 2Ohm and the 4Ohm DVC subs. Which one do you sugjest for the amp I choose? Like I said I will have one sub behind each seat.

Get the 4 Ohm DVC if you are getting 2 because the 1000BD goes to 1 ohm...you'll get more power out of the amp.

Its all in how you wire it up

I'm getting a big sheet of 3/4" MDF Today. Its 20 bucks at Lowes. I'm going to finish the enclosure and close it up so my interior isn't just hanging out for the entire world to see. With whats left of the MDF and some extra MDF I had laying around, I'm going to make a custom Center Console, and computer cover.

just thought i'ld toss my car in here, i have a kenwood mp3 player, memphis 400watt amp and 2 10" JL W0's, i hit 139.5Dbs at a Db Drag last weekend.

And my car sounds nice because the music gets just as loud as the subs!

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You have a Memphis 250D or a 500D?

FieroAudio, How much could you get me the Rockford Fosgate RFX9420?

With this sheet of MDF I got, I should be able to make my AmpRack, and my Sub Enclosure. I'm gonna install the amps in the front trunk compartment, Make them mounted flush.

I am running a combo of most of the above.
Pioneer 6" splits
Pioneer 4X6"
Clarion Amp
Clarion 12" Sub
Alpine Deck

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