I've been critical of WCF in the past, with good reason. But I have to give credit where credit is due. This is a great thread. Very informative, creative, thorough and well documented. Good job guys.
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02:58 PM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
I've been critical of WCF in the past, with good reason. But I have to give credit where credit is due. This is a great thread. Very informative, creative, thorough and well documented. Good job guys.
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Apr 10th, 2003
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
Engine installed, 1/4" clearance between 88 cradle and '95 3800 SC A/C bracket
Yet another view, front of engine / passenger side of vehicle
Shot of cradle installed, from underneath
Here we can see the majority of the wiring harness secured to the engine during the installation of the cradle. These are nearly all the wires and curcuits that will make up the main engine harness
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11:47 AM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
nice work, how much psi are you planning on running in that thing altogether? how much HP do you expect out of it? very good work though, I always wanted to turbo and SC a car....keep it coming
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11:58 AM
G-Nasty Member
Posts: 2099 From: woodlands,TX,USA Registered: Jan 2001
Originally posted by kslish: My god...are those chrome tubes on each side of the supercharger the fuel lines to the injectors? They're HUGE!!!
technically speaking yes.
the two main harness feedthrough connectors holes on the back firewall have been relocated (2 new holes cut) approximately 6 inches to hide those 2 ugly gray/black plastic firewall engine harness feedthroughs. the existing holes were of course blanked out properly with sheet metal.
at this point, the main stage is electrical.. which i have the honor of doing.
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04:45 AM
kslish Member
Posts: 1476 From: Womelsdorf, PA Registered: Apr 2000
Hanging turbo charger from fixture, this will determine where we will end the exhaust system from the engine. As you can see we will need to modify the inlet for the turbo. This will be done by removing the 3" cast inlet and replacing it with a better suited 2" which will clear the strut tower.
Haltech E6GM ECU mounted and being integrated into the facory ECM location.
Straight ALCOHOL injection
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02:48 AM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
Here we can see the beginnings of the stainless steel exhaust header that will be replacing the factory 3800 Series 1 units. These will be perfect for the turbocharged application as the material is much more suited for this application versus mild steel.
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02:51 AM
marcustre Member
Posts: 128 From: north florida Registered: Jan 2003
With much going on here at the shop we have finally had an oppurtunity to update this build thread. To date, the engine had been fired and sounds great, well - as good as can be expected without the lower exhaust as the material and components for the exhaust system will arrive on Tuesday.
Here we have the turbo in place as well as other components such as the thermostat housing and accelorator cable bracket. At this point in time it is a matter of finalizing the fit of all components before everything is torn down and chromed, anodized, and powder coated.
Bird's eye view of the turbocharger that will soon be removed to be polished on the turbine side, and coated on the compressor side.
Coil pack mounted off to the side, nearby the C500 connector.
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03:06 AM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
Fuel lines in place, along with the modified alternator bracket. Also seen here is the billet vacum distribution assembley on top of the blower housing near the throttle body, as well as the billet PCV cover plate.
Stainless steel exhaust inplace
Another aerial view of the intake assembly. Seen here is the HKS blow off valve assembly that will be removed for polishing as well as the compressor side of the turbocharger
Front of engine
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03:11 AM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
Here we can see the bracket that has been fabricated to assist in relocating the alternator to a much lower position on the engine as compared to it's previous residence on top of the rear valve cover.
Battery relocated to the front
Underside view. Visable here is the oil return line from the turbocharger, as well as the lines for the relocated oil filter.
Yet another pic
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03:16 AM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
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03:18 AM
fieromadman Member
Posts: 2217 From: Oconomowoc WI, USA Registered: Jan 2003
That swap is very clean and looks fantastic. I am really curious on how you put your alt. in the power steering pump position. Did you make your own brackets?? Let me know. thanks
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01:33 PM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
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02:18 PM
West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
2 Bar MAP eh?........ can you say boooooooooooost? I know it's gonna be more than 14.7 psi!!!!
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02:05 PM
Darth Fiero Member
Posts: 5921 From: Waterloo, Indiana Registered: Oct 2002
not bad. the one curiosity I have is how well that engine is going to run without some kind of intercooler setup. seems as tho heating the air twice is not going to be good even if you have alky injection. let me know how it runs and how much timing the engine is going to let you have at WOT without detonation. I hope you are not running the stock pistons. Guess I will have to wait and see how it turns out. BTW, what turbo is that or what is it off of?
Darth I believe that is the same turbo you are running...an '87 GN turbo. What is wrong with the pistons? It is a matter of tunning, I run 9.5:1 and almost 26 degrees of timing advance @ WOT with 6psi of course. I am planning to go 9psi as soon as I figure out if I am false knocking or if it is true knock...7 years and still counting (knock on wood)...lol!
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May 27th, 2003
spddy Member
Posts: 815 From: Concord ,ca usa Registered: Mar 2003
Love the headers! So could you make another set but without a turbo "y-pipe". The stock manifolds our all the same from 91-94 NA or 92-95 S/C motors. Let me know.
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Darth Fiero Member
Posts: 5921 From: Waterloo, Indiana Registered: Oct 2002
Darth I believe that is the same turbo you are running...an '87 GN turbo. What is wrong with the pistons? It is a matter of tunning, I run 9.5:1 and almost 26 degrees of timing advance @ WOT with 6psi of course. I am planning to go 9psi as soon as I figure out if I am false knocking or if it is true knock...7 years and still counting (knock on wood)...lol!
looks a lot smaller than the turbo I am using. note the size of the compressor housing compared to the center section. besides that, what is wrong with the stock pistons?? for one, they suck, no offense. at least the series II stockers have coated tops and are hypereutectic. my question to you is are you running both an SC and a turbo? if you are pushing just 6lbs of boost, I have no doubt you can run the timing you are running. but try heating that air a little bit more. trust me, been there, done that.
I don't get it. I love the idea of the turbo and the S/C. Looks and sounds great as an idea.. but I can't see it work. The turbo will force air in the intake faster then the S/C can compress it. therefore the S/C will just be restricting flow. ?? (not flaming hear, just trying to learn the concept).
But I can see something really practical. Have the S/C power at the line and the turbo kicking in at higher RPM.
I want to learn more!
And can you give me more info on that alt. bracket? what did it start out as? how did you make it? what are the measurments?
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