Hey everybody... well sadly I am out of work, my construction job fell through when winter hit. bad for me, possibly good for some fiero owners...
I have plenty of time now to work on my car but no funds to do anything... so an idea pops in my head "make it and they will come" so what do fiero owners want?
new scoops? new hood designs? etc... let me know and i'll work on some stuff and try and get some new aftermarket for us.
by the way... if you have sketches/pics of something you want post them here
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MarkJPana Member
Posts: 1926 From: Marlboro, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2003
How about some one piece tail light panels that will allow the C5 'Vett tail lights to be mounted to the Notchbacks. I've notices a distint lack of taillight options for the Notchies.
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Fastback 86 Member
Posts: 7849 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Sep 2003
I'd like more bolt on hood and decklid vent options. I don't have the time or money to do a lot of body work. Getting just the vent painted, cutting a few holes, and bolting it on is much easier and cheaper. I saw some ideas for sunk in decklid vents on ebay, which I like better cause they don't block anymore of the view out the back, but my only gripe is that they let rain get right down onto the engine, which is not good. When I figure out how to have my cake and eat it too, I'll let you know.
On the other hand, if you want to just make a whole new hood or decklid with built in vents, that would be cool too!
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How about some one piece tail light panels that will allow the C5 'Vett tail lights to be mounted to the Notchbacks. I've notices a distint lack of taillight options for the Notchies.
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Agreed. But I think the C5 (or any Corvette) tail lights are too big for notchbacks. I'd just like a panel that houses 3 round lights on each side, similar to PISA's (there's has 4 per side).
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Boricuasoy Member
Posts: 312 From: killeen, TX , Fort hood army base. Registered: Aug 2003
Maybe a notchback panel that uses the Oval LED lights seen on the sides of 18 wheelers.
That would be hott...
But, A replacement panel for my sun roof with an integrated scoop. This way in the summer, rather than poppin out the glass, I pop in the fiberglass panel, put down the windows, and have hella cooling to the interior. Its poor mans AC!!
Oh yea, it would look cool too.
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mattm Member
Posts: 1647 From: lancaster, pa Registered: Aug 2003
There seemed to be A LOT of interested buyers but NO ONE has offered these for sale - this forgotten thread is approaching its 1 year birthday ! The buckets seem to be uncomplicated and just a bolt-in - offer them with and without the lights. The thread has all the specifics, including the part numbers and a source for the lights. Sign me up for a set if you decide to make them
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Fastback 86 Member
Posts: 7849 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Sep 2003
Or flushmount parabolics! No one else wants to tackle this so I'm gonna give it a shot over winter break. Heres the thread I posted with pics people photoshopped: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/035268.html
My favorites are the ones by FLASHY about 3/4 of the way down the first page, on a dark red car.
I was talking more fiberglass parts... ie scoops, vents, etc... as much as i would love to do those headlights i dont have the funds to use of developement of something that major
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Fastback 86 Member
Posts: 7849 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Sep 2003
Ok I gotcha. Back to doing it myself I guess. In that case, do some cool matching side scoop, like the Vette ones some people have. Gotta have both sides so it looks right. Looks goofy with only one stock.
I think the markets a little tapped on scoops. There are only like, 10 different designs. You start running out of ideas on how to vent air into the engine compartment
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Theres still some room for growth for rear vents. Thats why I'ed did my own. Its diffferent, functional, and isn't blocking my rear view. The same goes for side vents. 10-12 years ago everybody just about had the same thing with the exception of IRM being totally different.
Now we have Ausie making a different take on it. He's now making front hood vents. So as you can see theres plenty of room left.
Skitime's is totally different yet functional. Just draw-up some designs and see PFF members reactions?
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Master Tuner Akimoto Member
Posts: 2267 From: South Florida,USA Registered: Jul 2003
I am following this thread with interest because I have done the experiment with the parabolic lights that Wmac did and have got every thing down to a T but there are a few issues that is still unresolved as far as starting up production on a large scale.
(1)Is there a large enough market for these eg 500- 1000 units? (2)Sell them with lights as a set $60-70 per light $240-280 + the buckets approximately $480 - $500 per set.? (3) Sell them as blanks and you cut your own holes? (4)If I use driving lights that are not DOT approved it can get complicated but would bring the price down?
All the above are my reason for not starting production of these lights so it is not that no one is stalling just economics as far as replacement notchback lights I already have molds for these but still have some more decisions as to what lens to use to fit in the panels.R&D is expensive and that means $$$ up front to start up then some people will say I will take a set and then it is ready and they start saying it is too expensive and that in a nut shell is reason for delay in producing them.
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that is the key reason i have been turning down suggestions to make light kits... i dont have the cash up front to develope something on the saying of "oh yeah i'm interested" and then when they hear the price back out of it... I will stick to scoops for the time being.
I am suppose to go get a parts car this weekend or next and then i will start playing with the ideas i have and post pics.
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cjgable Member
Posts: 1198 From: Fort Worth, Tx, USA Registered: Dec 2001
How about a dash cap? It is difficult to find a clean dash. I do not like those carpet ones. You would have to remove the defrost grill in the center and speaker grills. The cap could fit into those locations, leaving the mounting points, and the interior lip could fit into the interor gap in the dash. Just an idea.
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FLASHY Member
Posts: 1079 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Registered: Feb 2001
would Toyota Supra flares adapted to a Fiero look ok? i got a set and i can fit them to Fieros if that would look ok. I am talking about the early-mid 80's Supras.
would Toyota Supra flares adapted to a Fiero look ok? i got a set and i can fit them to Fieros if that would look ok. I am talking about the early-mid 80's Supras.
Do you mean these? They'd work with some minor changes to fit the Fiero properly but it's sure a good start. Cool!
I think the fender flares would be cool. Make them so they eliminate major wheel gap, and you have a winner.
What about a lower front lip that directs air to provide downforce for the front of the car? They can be easily made and would certainly help with "float" at speed (along with a hood vent).
Fiberglass sub enclosures and component pods would be cool and easy. A small pod to house one 6-1/2" coax speaker would be easy as well. Make the pods adjustable or available with adjustable hardware...instant imaging.
A rear fascia lip for aero cars has also been mentioned by others. Side skirts?
Formula and late nose style lips or dams would be cool. They have been wanting an alternative to the 355 nose for a while.
"Build it, and they will come."
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Christine Member
Posts: 1052 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: Jan 2003
How about a front spoiler that has built in driving lights and a built in bracket for a front license plate kind of like the Fiero warehouse closed mouth style but with small round cutouts for driving lights and a notch for a front plate kind of like the GT rear fascia has for the plate to fit in so we can get rid of the ugly front plate bracket that messes up the paint. http://www.ovis.net/~dmkfiero/images/closed_mouth_front_spoiler.jpg
How about center consoles that are functional for people the do not want a sub in it say better compartment with access to the computer so you do not have to take it out to get to the stuff behind it. Flip down cup holders that fit where the pocket is on the passenger side of the dash.
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kevin Member
Posts: 2722 From: Elk Grove, CA USA Registered: Jan 2000
Take a close look at Madcurl's side scoops a few posts above(He has the silver chop fastback). I believe Madcurl still has the original design, and may share it with you so we can all benefit from your fiberglass skills. This design is paramount in its simplicity and functioin. I can GUARANTEE you this design will sell in big numbers. Please oh please manufacture these! Sincerely,
great ideas everyone, lets keep them flowing... i'm working in Rhino 3d to create some of the objects people have mentioned and i will post pics here in a few days...
also, on the fender flares? do you want them to be built off the current fender size or do you want them to fill in some of the fender gap? if so how much? 1"-?
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Hey, Hoping you're still taking suggestions.. What I'd really like to see if possible is a scoop that goes on the roof pannel, something like the first pic on this link. http://www.phillymint.com/ErtlShopCart/Ertl33412.htm I've always wanted a scoop like that on the roof.
Senny I would love to do a roof scoop... give the fiero some McLaren style... problem is I am for functionality above all else... and there is not much of a way to make them functional except how jnco mentioned. (pop-in sunroof panel with roof scoop to vent passenger compartment...
there might be a way to channel the scoop down along the sides of the sailpanels and into the engine compartment,but this would require a replacement rear clip... basically making a kit car... I hope to eventually build full body kits and rebodys but for the time being scoops and other misc. stuff is as far as i can go until i get some business from the public.
I have also thought of a roof scoop targa panel for t-top cars... i dont know if i can explain this, and when i do everyone will think i'm nuts but i'll give it a try... 1 panel t-tops... basically a targa panel but the center would be formed to cover the center t-bar which, in turn would channel the airflow from the roof scoop...
well i just spent the last 3 hours browsing modified car show pics... heres a couple designs i think i might be able to work into the fiero if theres interest
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Automoda Member
Posts: 318 From: Bluffdale, Utah, USA Registered: Sep 2002
#1 A replacement for the black scrape-strip on the formula nose. Now, something that sticks down like the black polypropaline stock one would be blown to pieces by the first 7-11 driveway you pulled into... but something that swept backward in a nice curve would be sweet. Perhpas with some optional driving-light pods that could tuck up under the nose. As I understand it, you cant get the stock scrapers anymore.
#2 If someone doesnt do this, I'm going to do it myself. Fiberglass backing plates for the sagging noses. I want something I can glue firmly to the back side to hold up the sagging plastic. And they could be cheap and easy. You'd just have to fill a little bondo temporarily on the nose of a car that was waiting for a paint job, then pull a mold off of it. Should be a snap.
#3 The time is coming where the turnsignals are all starting to look like crap. I have to go through several parts cars just to come up with one car's worth of decent turnsignals. How many have too much bend? How many are getting faded? What if someone made a fiberglass replacement? Perhaps with a little looking around, some kind of LED based red/yellow plastic lenses that go to another kind of car, or a motorcycle could be used.
also, on the fender flares? do you want them to be built off the current fender size or do you want them to fill in some of the fender gap? if so how much? 1"-?
Definitely fill in some of the gap! The front doesn't need as much filling (maybe an inch) but the back is REDICULOUS so it would need a lot more drop (I'd say two or three inches). The nice thing about having wider fenders is that it'll allow the wheels to sink inside on harsh bumps and turns without damaging the fender itself. Man I'm so hyped about this! I hope you really do make these. It'll be a MAJOR change for the Fiero's appearance!!
+ for you!
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FLASHY Member
Posts: 1079 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Registered: Feb 2001
Here's one example I made for another thread. Notice how they fill in the fender gap? It looks lower than it really is. It's photoshopped with a choptop but that doesn't matter...
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fibercustoms Member
Posts: 43 From: san diego, ca Registered: Nov 2003
we will be starting on the engine lids first and then i think some flares that DO reduce wheel gap. or possibly some new front fenders with flares molded in and rear attachment flares to match. looks like alot of demand for Fiero owners. glad to have someone else jumping in the market.