Why is it that everytime somebody acts like a jackass and gets slammed about it by other members, suddenly the forum is at fault?
rough childhood or problems at home, trying to divert blame from that to the forum. Forums a great place.
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
After reading some of the old posts, where Low blow Fiero GT slams Skitime for pointing out that he told him how to make the parts, all I can say is that this person is so full of "it" that his eyes are brown. Thank Cliff that we have a ratings system and this low life Fiero GT won't be here too long. A minus from me to him.
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da_purplefly Member
Posts: 171 From: Woodbury, MN US Registered: Apr 2003
Rare87GT , shame on you. An lowfierogt shame on you as well. This situation could have been resolved easily yet you both let egos get in the way and this thread is the result. I am not assigning blame to anyone here, as I am sure i could not prove myself to every person on this board, however this garbage is just that and personal attacks and slander have no place in a forum like this one. This place needs more moderators that are not partial and can delete a post like this or lock it down. You both have each others contact info settle it off the forum.
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Tugboat Member
Posts: 1669 From: Goodview, VA Registered: Jan 2004
Easy there Derrick, you could have said all that in one post, not three. And I don't think the all caps were neccessary. But hey that is just my opinion.
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filthyscarecrow Member
Posts: 637 From: minneapolis, MN USA Registered: Jul 2000
This place needs more moderators that are not partial and can delete a post like this or lock it down.
Actually, the fact that there is a single, level-headed guy running the show here is one of the things i really like about this place. want to see what happens when there are more moderators? go to honda-tech. that place is brimming with nazi mods who will lock a thread if they don't like your girlfriend's name. they lock a thread if it asks questions about a product offered by a company that competes with one of the board sponsors. they lock a thread if you talk down on someone they associate with, even when you're right. they lock threads when they are losing an argument with a non-moderator. personally, i think the vast majority of forums on the internet could take a lesson from cliff on how to operate a board. the less a moderator interferes with threads, the better- until it's necessary. if threads like this bother you so much, feel free to not read them.
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DotTC Member
Posts: 2345 From: Hamlet, North Carolina Registered: Nov 2003
BUNCH OF WHINY ASS BITCHES. TWO MEN ONE PROBLEM. NOW EVERYONE IS ALL UP IN THEIR **** . WTF LET IT GO SHITS OVER.
I can name one other person who wont be here long with that attitude.
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da_purplefly Member
Posts: 171 From: Woodbury, MN US Registered: Apr 2003
Thats not the way to get it to the trash, thats the way to get yourself banned. Bring it down a notch. When Cliff feels this is trash can material he will move it. This is actually a fairly "civil" thread compared to others.
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crzyone Member
Posts: 3571 From: Alberta, Canada Registered: Dec 2000
KEV, shame on you. An lowfierogt shame on you as well. This situation could have been resolved easily yet you both let egos get in the way and this thread is the result. I am not assigning blame to anyone here, as I am sure i could not prove myself to every person on this board, however this garbage is just that and personal attacks and slander have no place in a forum like this one. This place needs more moderators that are not partial and can delete a post like this or lock it down. You both have each others contact info settle it off the forum.
What do I have to do with this anyhow..? You don't know me and I have NOTHING to do with this..!!! My ego ???..maybe you should reread what i posted..before you accuse me of something.
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Feb 26th, 2004
PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
KEV, shame on you. An lowfierogt shame on you as well. This situation could have been resolved easily yet you both let egos get in the way and this thread is the result. I am not assigning blame to anyone here, as I am sure i could not prove myself to every person on this board, however this garbage is just that and personal attacks and slander have no place in a forum like this one. This place needs more moderators that are not partial and can delete a post like this or lock it down. You both have each others contact info settle it off the forum.
Where does "KEV" come into the equation peanut-head ????? This was a dispute between "Amir" ( Rare87GT ) and "Tony" ( lowfierogt )
Get your facts and info before you prove your moron skills
Since everyone on the Forum is viewing this post. Does anyone else make the low mount for a reasonable price? Thought I would ask.
Yes ......................actually I have started production of the mounts in urethane. Darrell Morse makes one for the stock engine that goes under the pulley side
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Posts: 1747 From: portsmouth RI Registered: Sep 2003
Where does "KEV" come into the equation peanut-head ????? This was a dispute between "Amir" ( Rare87GT ) and "Tony" ( lowfierogt )
Get your facts and info before you prove your moron skills
I have gone back and edited my post, I am infinatly sorry to KEV for my mistake. Thanks for calling me a penut head, most would not have been so kind. Everyone please except my apologies.
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11:03 PM
PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Do you have any finished yet or are they still in the production phase? I am talking about the 3800 low altenator bracket mount,just to make sure we are on the same page. IF so pm me with details.
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Feb 27th, 2004
PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Do you have any finished yet or are they still in the production phase? I am talking about the 3800 low altenator bracket mount,just to make sure we are on the same page. IF so pm me with details.
Oh.............THAT mount..............I have the setup where if someone sends me thier stock V-6 alt bracket & an aluminum upper dogbone mount from a Grand Prix ( or I can get one ) I can mate the 2
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Electrathon Member
Posts: 5241 From: Gresham, OR USA Registered: Dec 2002
I have gone back and edited my post, I am infinatly sorry to KEV for my mistake. Thanks for calling me a penut head, most would not have been so kind. Everyone please except my apologies.
This is how it should be. Someone made a mistake and was called on it. He admits his mistake and corrects it, moves on. That earned you a plus from me.
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Lucius Silanus Member
Posts: 136 From: Green Bay/Milwaukee WI Registered: Feb 2004
Intersting how this thread progressed. Low or Rare have made no posts on the 4th page yet, and the 'arguement' continues. Did they accomplish their (or our) goal and stop bickering (or at least in public,) or is that just wishful thinking?
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Rare87GT Member
Posts: 5074 From: Wichita, KS USA Registered: Oct 2001
Intersting how this thread progressed. Low or Rare have made no posts on the 4th page yet, and the 'arguement' continues. Did they accomplish their (or our) goal and stop bickering (or at least in public,) or is that just wishful thinking?
I sent Low his $10 money order today in the mail so I can get my parts back. I completed the low alt bracket through someone else and well have it soon. My goal is to make it Daytona and maybe go to a get together the weekend before it in Omaha as there is a Fiero deal up in Nebraska like the 13th of March. Well see what happens, at least I am getting fixed up in the right hands now.
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Feb 28th, 2004
Puck Member
Posts: 1501 From: Greenville, IL Registered: Dec 2000
if you wanted a bracket made all you have to do it send me your engine, cradle, tranny, cables, and about $500 dollars and i will send you a newpaper clipping on how to make a bracket for it but then you will have to go buy an engine, cradle, tranny, and cables for the bracket to go on.....but hey it seems like that is how Low runs his business so why wouldn't it work for me.....and i won't even lose my cool when i see a personal check show up for the $500 and you can even make up a first name and last name for me......
Minngreen you are a loser. Get a life off of PFF. Minnesota nice is what you are. tell me to my face. You’re not a real man. Try telling it how it is. A lot of east coast people would tell you how it is. Not there in good old MN. You hide behind behind a computer.
You get into everyone else’s business because your life sucks. You do nothing but work and live on PFF. We did business many times and I never once screwed you. The past with 86yellowse you know RON. Who was talking bad about him at the MFF meetings? Then who like a pussy was all nice to him in person. Go back to your hole and stay out of my business you LOSER. You want to know about me....
I have a really good job as a Supervisor of 15 people in the computer field. My Wife is a Doctor. I guess what, I made of myself may not make me a loser.
Nice friend you where.
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Yawn.... Yeah, Rob the loser... Obviously everyone here hates him.... Looks like this should be in O/T as a political discussion if you are going to start making baseless claims about someones life and character...
1st off - neither of your 2 posted links have anything to do with me
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Minngreen you are a loser. Get a life off of PFF.
Loser? Resorted to name calling already? I've got a life... it just doesn't include you <shrug>
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Minnesota nice is what you are. tell me to my face. You’re not a real man. Try telling it how it is. A lot of east coast people would tell you how it is. Not there in good old MN. You hide behind behind a computer.
Minnesota nice? Yeah, that's me - born & bred here, and proud of it!
As to you and "east coast" people... I've spent more time with the Fiero community out there than you ever have - and I know what they think of you... no need for clarification there! And I've never "hidden" behind the computer - I work at 3 of 'em all day long. I've met a ton of Fiero people, and have friends all over the nation because of it. I've never so much as "hidden" my name, phone number, address, or identity from anyone at any time.
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You get into everyone else’s business because your life sucks. You do nothing but work and live on PFF.
Yeah... my life sucks - steady job, wonderful wife, nice house, cars, close family, true friends... oh yeah - it's just terrible Nothing but work and PFF... and kart league racing, custom fiberglass work, family life, great friends... <shrug>
You obviously know nothing about what you speak of... and you apparently have no respect for anyone any more - trying to bring someone's personal life into a public forum such as this.
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We did business many times and I never once screwed you.
Correct! And I've never accused you otherwise... no need to. Which is why even I was somewhat surprised at your responses here.
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The past with 86yellowse you know RON. Who was talking bad about him at the MFF meetings? Then who like a pussy was all nice to him in person.
We all did (me included - I've never denied that)! And we still do on ocassion! - And I tell Ron what I think about the things he does when I've talked to him in person. - and there you go again with the name-calling....
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Go back to your hole and stay out of my business you LOSER.
Never been in a "hole", so it seems I haven't got one to got back to! (loser again? what - can't be more creative?) And according to this post, this isn't your business anyway.
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You want to know about me.... I have a really good job as a Supervisor of 15 people in the computer field. My Wife is a Doctor. I guess what, I made of myself may not make me a loser.
No... what you do and who you're around doesn't mean anything here. It's your attitude that needs work. Just take a step back and look at yourself and how you treat everyone else. What you're not seeing is that I, nor really anyone else here, cares what you or your wife does for a living - we care about how members of this Fiero community treat each other.
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Nice friend you where.
Man, I tried... I tried a lot - when people first started telling negative stories about you, I didn't want to believe them. But when you started posting you attitude everywhere you went - it becomes unavoidable. I even avoided discussing certain topics in your presence to "keep the peace" since I didn't always approve of your "business ventures" (and you knew that). This topic I even intially avoided - but you just went too far.
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Yawn.... Yeah, Rob the loser... Obviously everyone here hates him.... Looks like this should be in O/T as a political discussion if you are going to start making baseless claims about someones life and character...
Thanks Songman! I appreciate it...
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If I want to tell it how it is I will. I do get personnal.
This hole thread was about a business deal that went bad and the person who messed it up was the person who started this post. You have all the facts.
1. he asked me to make a dogbone bracket because SKITIME would not make it. I offered to give him mine off my FIERO. Took him 3 months to get me replacement parts. I asked for a MO, didn't want a check. He sent me a check with the wrong name. I told him to send me a mo to ship his stuff back I didn't want to deal with him. He creates his thread. EVERYONE not minding there own Business piped in and didn't know the facts. They got personal so I had to stick up for myself. If it got personnal that the way it went.
FOR MINNEGREEN and his last post lets go over somethings.
He is talking about WCF mounts.
#1 I never wanted to make mounts. SHAWN YORWAY, wanted them made. He could not have them made and to cheap to pay full price from WCF. now shawn remakes them.. #2 I knew someone who could help Shawn. I had a person design and make engine mounts. WCF mounts where trashed. The design I used was like stock mounts. #3 I sold SHAWN and KEVIN mounts. I had to pay for them. #4 This was never my idea. People found out I made them so I sold a batch. #5 I stopped selling them, people keep asking for them. I send them to WCF or Shawn. I do tell the to ask around about WCF before buying them.
When I was moving who was giving parts AWAY.
I gave MInnegreen a v8 cam.
I have not screwed anyone out of anything. I owe Jimmy 75.00$ and will pay him via check. We worked it out. Jason, never called me to ask for anything. I offered him a transmission for his 85 GT. I try to make my dealings right. Business, I don't screw anyone. check my ebay account.
I do say it how it is if you don't like it don't read it.
No one ever told you to read my post.
If you DON'T LIKE HOWARD STERN DON"T listen to him. F the FCC
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WhiteFieroGT Member
Posts: 694 From: Richmond, VA; USA Registered: Oct 2002
haha ... you know what ... id never think that i would ever be saying something that my father told me ... but some how it applies here ... "better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
If I want to tell it how it is I will. I do get personnal.
Obviously... and that's really just not necessary. Typical debate tactic... if you can't win with facts & data, try to win with emotion.
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This hole thread was about a business deal that went bad and the person who messed it up was the person who started this post. You have all the facts.
Yes, and I think most people made their decisions about the transaction based on what you both posted. And I'd like to add that even with all the negativity that went back and forth... Amir got his parts back - it's done. Good.
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FOR MINNEGREEN and his last post lets go over somethings.
He is talking about WCF mounts.
Which is something I've never outright said... like I mentioned - you knew my thoughts on the subject, and that was good enough for me. I'm glad to see that you're not selling them anymore... less controversy that way.
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When I was moving who was giving parts AWAY. I gave MInnegreen a v8 cam.
Yep - and it's still in the box sitting on top of my V8 (I've never had the chance to cross reference it for specs yet, but one of these days I will). I also purchased an old Dell laptop from you (which I still use at home to surf the 'net while I watch TV), and you purchased/traded my old '84 SE for some cash and a few parts. All was good in my transactions with you.
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no one ever told you to read my post.
Actually - someone did ask me to read this post...
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If you DON'T LIKE HOWARD STERN DON"T listen to him. F the FCC
Hmmm... I really don't care about Stern one way or the other, but that doesn't matter because he failed to compete in the Twin Cities radio market anyway
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Nothing negitive to say. I am very happy with your last post. I really mean it. Good luck with the green machine.
Thanks I really to try and not be negative (I find that I'm always in a much worse mood when I let stuff get to me). That's part of the reason why I tend to be able to get along with most of the people most of the time (I have no time or need for grudges).
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40982 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Thanks I really to try and not be negative (I find that I'm always in a much worse mood when I let stuff get to me). That's part of the reason why I tend to be able to get along with most of the people most of the time (I have no time or need for grudges).
Wow!
Class.
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Firefox Member
Posts: 4307 From: New Berlin, Wisconsin Registered: Feb 2003
I think Rob, being the positive person he is, deserves something better than green for his car. How about a nice light shade of pink? That's a positive color! And since Carissa ( did I spell her name right?) is a Mary Kay Consultant (as Kristie is), that pink car in the driveway would be great advertisement!
I can ALWAYS count on you!!!! 
You don't know me and I have NOTHING to do with this..!!! My ego ???..maybe you should reread what i posted..before you accuse me of something.
