Hello everyone, I wanted to see how many of you would be interested in a fiero GT and non-GT wide body kit. The kit is under construction now but in the near future (1-2) months it will be available for purchase. The kit will include 2 front fenders, wide door sills, new redesigned front bumper, rear redesigned bumper, wing, hood, decklid scoop ( with plexi window for a beautifull view of that fiero Iron Duke or 2.8 etc.)(also available soon with out window), and a wide body piece from the doors all the way back. (Basically a whole body except for the roof) It will fit right on the excisting body wih no need to stretch the car or do any heavy modification, basically a direct bolt on with one or two parts that will need to be attached with hypoxy*. It will look sharp and the kit will be made to bolt on to the direct and excisting holes of the original body. It will include all mesh, gills, vents, etc to finish. Or it can be done by us. The complete kit for everything except the roof redesigned the kit will run from 3500-5500 for the complete product. The fastback model will be available first. I will just like to know how many people would be interested it this.(Just give me an email at alex4mail_2000@yahoo.com and I will have you in mind) I will post pics soon. (### DEEP-DISH WHEELS WILL BE NEEDED WITH THIS KIT####) Just wanted to give you guys a heads up before it is completed.
Alex A.
------------------ There's two types of cars in the world, Fieros and everything else.
If the kit is nice and flows with the lines of the car it will be nice and will be welcomed so when the pics are available then you can get some feed back as to what is the reception on these .
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Philphine Member
Posts: 6136 From: louisville,ky. usa Registered: Feb 2000
i'm too poor now for my opinion to matter, but i'd be wondering if parts are sold individually and if they can be used in part with stock parts if you only wanted to change certain things.
in particular for me, i'd just want a wider rear facia and wider rear wheel well openings.
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member
Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
Would yours be any different than that? Or just available while that one is not?
I'd like to make a suggestion... HUGE side scoops in front of the rear wheels so that those of us who want to use air-air intercoolers will have a good place for them.
------------------ '87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud '90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above
Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
The kit will have the large air ducts for those who need it. The kit will look different with larger side scoops and on the back like you said near the tailight assembly there will be a vent that will release any excess air.. They are big but what type of big are you talking about. How big did you want... 4 inches wide in center of scoop. ours are 4 wide and about 18" tall. To do what you are talking about you would need to cut you old rear quarter panel and put the intercooler vetrically behind the widebody pannel and thru the modified original fiero quarter panel. It would work on our kit with some time and effort. FILM cameras , My uncle it a pro photographer and he still uses film cameras. lol Sorry but I don;t have AIM and would need to send them to someones email to post them.
------------------ There's two types of cars in the world, Fieros and everything else.
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member
Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
The kit will have the large air ducts for those who need it. The kit will look different with larger side scoops and on the back like you said near the tailight assembly there will be a vent that will release any excess air.. They are big but what type of big are you talking about. How big did you want... 4 inches wide in center of scoop. ours are 4 wide and about 18" tall. To do what you are talking about you would need to cut you old rear quarter panel and put the intercooler vetrically behind the widebody pannel and thru the modified original fiero quarter panel. It would work on our kit with some time and effort. FILM cameras , My uncle it a pro photographer and he still uses film cameras. lol Sorry but I don;t have AIM and would need to send them to someones email to post them.
Something like that. What I was thinking... BIG scoop in front of the rear wheel well, with provision to duct the air flow above the wheel well and out through an exhaust vent in the rear fascia that you said would be included in the kit. By "big scoop in front", I meant something that would have its outer surface vertical and coplanar with the outer edge of the widest wheel and its inner edge pulled in NACA duct style inboard of the stock Fiero body line. IOW, the most functional scoop you could fit in the location. There's a lot of free space between the stock Fiero quarter panel and the space frame. Most of that could be taken up by the duct. You could even mold a nipple into the duct to connect to the stock Fiero airbox. Most of use don't use the Fiero airbox, but the nipple would still be in a convenient location.
Going to do anything with any kind of diffuser in the rear?
Wide bodys have a LOT more functional considerations that just looks and fitting wider wheels.
------------------ '87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud '90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above
Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member
Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
NotAFieroAnyLonger where can I see your widebody and
how did your widebody come out?
You don't want to see pic's of mine.. People get mad when I post pic's... That's why I even took my sig. picture off! YOUR WIDEBODY is the one that people want to see..... Send the picture's... Are there picture's..???
Why are you dragging this out..??
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007DOUG Member
Posts: 1280 From: Wheeling, WV 26003 Registered: Feb 2000
Doug don't worry, There are people out there who CAN design their own cars and not steal, or copy previous designs. That it what we are doing and we beleive in our own design. By the way while registering there was a mistake, and wideboDY was mis-spelled. As you know the only thing that can not be changed when already registered is the USERNAME. Don't worry about anyone stealing your designs. (Ours are now being certified and design patented so there is no confusion.)
I'll post pics but I need someone to help me with it. I have no idea how to. So who ever steps up first and helps me will get things rolling faster. SORRY for the delay.
ALEX
------------------ There's two types of cars in the world, Fieros and everything else.
Doug don't worry, There are people out there who CAN design their own cars and not steal, or copy previous designs. ...
Alex - you're not going to make many friends around here by bashing a highly-respected member & vendor like Doug. By going after someone like him so early on... you're going to have a ton of ground to make up in terms of gaining the trust and respect of the members here (especially with you going around quoting prices for a product that is yet to exist).
Although this was recently hashed out in a different topic, it's been proven time & time again that people like Doug are already an integral part of this community. And going after him for trying to revive the IRM product line is just absurd.
Now as to your own design... try to stick to promoting whatever is good about yours instead of targeting other vendors and attempting to make them look bad. I'm definitely interested to see a new take on the widebody concept.
Alex - you're not going to make many friends around here by bashing a highly-respected member & vendor like Doug. By going after someone like him so early on... you're going to have a ton of ground to make up in terms of gaining the trust and respect of the members here (especially with you going around quoting prices for a product that is yet to exist).
Although this was recently hashed out in a different topic, it's been proven time & time again that people like Doug are already an integral part of this community. And going after him for trying to revive the IRM product line is just absurd.
Now as to your own design... try to stick to promoting whatever is good about yours instead of targeting other vendors and attempting to make them look bad. I'm definitely interested to see a new take on the widebody concept.
It appears to me that Doug layed the first stab with the flag... Let's see what he has to offer before we run him off, shall we? Just because its a WIDEBODY does not mean it's a COPY... but some seem to be touchy about things lately...
Rob D.
------------------ The Dirty Rat Chopped, dropped and just plain NASTY! Choptop Targa #1 383 Stroker MPFI with N2O 1" Drop 3" Chop 11" Brakes 19" Motegi Roja's wrapped in BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW-2 rubber RCC Coilover Suspension Updated Jan 21 '04 www.dirtyratracing.org
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007DOUG Member
Posts: 1280 From: Wheeling, WV 26003 Registered: Feb 2000
I have decided that I will post the pictures when the right time comes. I am setting up a website and will gladly give it to those who care. There are build photos there and future mods and sketches etc. Its under construction but when completed, not to bother people I will give it to those who expressed interest in the kit. I want to thank you all for the positive support, and sorry for the delay, I just don't feel that I want to post pics of a kit that may cause a conflict with Doug now or when completed. Those who had interest will get the site name to you soon. Thanks to all. Here's a sketch of it for a glimpse.
For those who thing this is bull, sorry you feel that way. Alex
------------------ There's two types of cars in the world, Fieros and everything else.
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FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
I'm am sorry for any trouble and wish to close this argument. Like I said as time allows pics will be posted and hopefully things will flow better. My intent was not to bash anyone and as I can understand nobody was trying to bash me so, I wish to end the misunderstanding. Once again this should not have happenend. ( my intent was to see if there was interest in giving advice and support, and when it came time to advertise in my product for selling purposes I would)
Alex,
------------------ There's two types of cars in the world, Fieros and everything else.
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Let's see what he has to offer before we run him off, shall we? Just because its a WIDEBODY does not mean it's a COPY... but some seem to be touchy about things lately...
I (nor anyone else as far as I can tell) ever suggested or even mentioned that we run him off at all... only that he may have wanted to come across a bit less-negatively in reference to Doug and his business. Also, I don't recall any mention of his new widebody product being a copy? The only mention of copying was by Alex in reference to Doug's product line. <shrug>
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Originally posted by 007DOUG:
...I'm not offended by his comments.
That's cool... I may have jumped to it a bit quickly (after having read the other topic recently)
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Well, after that last topic, I've lost some respect, and gained some too. Guess I'm back where I started. LOL
In any case, you've never changed levels in my book!
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Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby: I am setting up a website and will gladly give it to those who care...
You've definitely come to the right place to find interested parties!
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Here's a sketch of it for a glimpse.
...now about that sketch?
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FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
I (nor anyone else as far as I can tell) ever suggested or even mentioned that we run him off at all... only that he may have wanted to come across a bit less-negatively in reference to Doug and his business. Also, I don't recall any mention of his new widebody product being a copy? The only mention of copying was by Alex in reference to Doug's product line. <shrug>
You're reading that COMPLETELY WRONG. Doug said that the new product had better not be a copy. GTR said that it's not a copy and attempted to distance himself from those who make copies.
I have no idea how you could have interpreted that as meaning that GTR was saying that Doug's work was a copy of anything...
------------------ '87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud '90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above
Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member
Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
Dang... it's been a long day at the office - maybe I ought to put my reading glasses back on!
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Originally posted by Will:
You're reading that COMPLETELY WRONG. Doug said that the new product had better not be a copy. GTR said that it's not a copy and attempted to distance himself from those who make copies.
I have no idea how you could have interpreted that as meaning that GTR was saying that Doug's work was a copy of anything...
Ah... I see, you are correct - I was reading it wrong! Thanks for the clarification I took GTR's statement...
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There are people out there who CAN design their own cars and not steal, or copy previous designs
...as insinuating that Doug had ripped off someone else's ideas, or that he wasn't in the right for reproducing the IRM parts (as someone in a different topic had directly stated).
Sorry for my misunderstanding (and thanks Will for clarifying for me!)
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chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
I'm am sorry for any trouble and wish to close this argument. Like I said as time allows pics will be posted and hopefully things will flow better. My intent was not to bash anyone and as I can understand nobody was trying to bash me so, I wish to end the misunderstanding. Once again this should not have happenend. ( my intent was to see if there was interest in giving advice and support, and when it came time to advertise in my product for selling purposes I would)
Alex,
Alex - I really feel that there is no argument and you are not causing any trouble. I for one would love to see what you have to offer. If you decide not to post your design and pictures here, for whatever reason, please email me the pics so I can see what you created. I hope you reconsider and let us all see what you have. I'm sure there are plenty that are interested and flat out curious...
Rob D.
------------------ The Dirty Rat Chopped, dropped and just plain NASTY! Choptop Targa #1 383 Stroker MPFI with N2O 1" Drop 3" Chop 11" Brakes 19" Motegi Roja's wrapped in BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW-2 rubber RCC Coilover Suspension Updated Jan 21 '04 www.dirtyratracing.org
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FieroGTRwideboby Member
Posts: 591 From: Socal (Pasadena) Registered: Jun 2004
Okay, I stated that I had no intent on inplying that IRM designs are being replicated. This discussion is going too deep. What I stated was that he should not be worried about anyone replicating the IRM design which he now owns, considering the fact that there are endless design ideas which could be produced. The funny thing is I have actually never even seen the IRM designs before. That would exclude the statement that I said he was replicating them. With this I hope I have showed you guys that you did not understand me right.
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chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
You're reading that COMPLETELY WRONG. Doug said that the new product had better not be a copy. GTR said that it's not a copy and attempted to distance himself from those who make copies.
I have no idea how you could have interpreted that as meaning that GTR was saying that Doug's work was a copy of anything...
Thanks for clearing that up for us Will!
Now Boomer - where's that sketch!
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Is'nt "Outlaw Peformance" from Port Char..??
i forgot about that. nevermind, i'll do without.
. Dude, you can't even spell "widebody" in your username!
