Nice pics.

The only thing that bothers me about this thread is this.

My steering wheel.

AND

Yours.

That is the same pep boys steering wheel. Why put a sparco sticker on it and say it is sparco. It is a nice steering wheel anyhow.
The sticker looks good, but I would'nt claim it to be. Maybe I am wrong and I will stand corrected if you show mw that wheel from sparco.

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"It's too low, too rough, too loud, drinks gas, it's totally impractical, but damn good lookin. In other words, It's almost perfect!"
Build up tread or MODS w/ Pics

happy birthday, jordan! i think some of the mods (scoops, stickers) are over the top, but i like the green, it's unique. and the lights, for some silly reason i like the lights. sort of a Unidentified Fiero Object.

as for the nitrous, i hope it holds up and you can prove all the nay-sayers wrong.

quote Originally posted by Black-Azz-GT: Nice pics. The only thing that bothers me about this thread is this. That is the same pep boys steering wheel. Why put a sparco sticker on it and say it is sparco. It is a nice steering wheel anyhow. The sticker looks good, but I would'nt claim it to be. Maybe I am wrong and I will stand corrected if you show mw that wheel from sparco.

Well, I am getting used to something always bothering somebody about his car
We did get the wheel from Pep Boys so maybe it is the same. We wanted an APC one that was similar but they were sold out at the time, but they had this one that had been returned and we got a great deal on it.
I don't know what to tell you other than the Sparco dual button add on part fit with no problems Maybe they make them generic to fit most wheels? Who knows. We like it and that's all that matters

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: Well, I am getting used to something always bothering somebody about his car We did get the wheel from Pep Boys so maybe it is the same. We wanted an APC one that was similar but they were sold out at the time, but they had this one that had been returned and we got a great deal on it. I don't know what to tell you other than the Sparco dual button add on part fit with no problems Maybe they make them generic to fit most wheels? Who knows. We like it and that's all that matters

I like it regardles. It's a great looking wheel. Thats why I bought mine.

How much does "pep boys" charge for that steering wheel? I ask because we do not have "pep boys" in Canada. We have CANADIAN TIRE! Wooo!

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quote Originally posted by 87FieroGTx: Boom! :P

Yes? Oh, I though t you were calling me. LOL

Fiero5 - what's the going rate for a bottle fill these days? My shop down here isn't doing it any longer and I might have to find a new place to refill.

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quote Originally posted by Fiero5: Since the steering wheel is a Sparco, they offer an add on set of buttons that fit most of their more current wheels (Sparco part # 15NE982-dual and #15NE981-single). We went with the dual set because as I said earlier we are planning on adding a second bottle for better display at shows (two is always better than one ) not to mention that we won't have to go get a refill as often everytime we want to play a little Steve

Not to be picky, but didn't you just say the steering wheel isn't a sparco in the last post, and here you say its a sparco? Oh and BTW a 50 shot of N2O helped my rings shatter into oblivion on my old 2.8. I hope the new 2.8 will be able to hold it.

Happy B-day jordan!...........Just for kicks...... the tach on Black-Azz, why not go with an Auto Meter tach? they look much better........i have some Pro-Comp guages and they look awesome!!!!!

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: They have paint that will work for just about anything now it seems Right now it catches air coming up from the side vent, but it is going to be replaced in a few days in time for the next show.

So what kind of paint did you use for the shifter cables?

Heres a pic of my car after my 500 HP NOS install. As you can see its still running like a and purring like a kitten!

But seriously though...be careful with that stuff. A 2.5 is REAL fragile! I blew 3 of them in mine without the NOS. Also have you considered a purge valve? When my bro had his he had it spray out of the rear vents. It looked pretty cool since most the timeon cars it comes out of the front somewhere. They make new ones...i think its ZEX... that actually illuminates the fog! I sa it in person and i thought it looked FREAKIN awesome. I write ya if i find it on the net!

Oh and HAPPY BIFDAY TO JORDAN!!!!

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1985 Fiero w/ 1998 Supercharged 3.8 V-6
Best ET:3.0 pulley 12.44 @ 109.19mph
2.75 pulley 12.20@ 110.90 mph


"NO Juice....Just BOOST!"

quote Originally posted by donk316: How much does "pep boys" charge for that steering wheel? I ask because we do not have "pep boys" in Canada. We have CANADIAN TIRE! Wooo!

I hink it was like $50 or 60 bucks. US of course.

quote Originally posted by Black-Azz-GT: I think it was like $50 or 60 bucks. US of course.

having looked at Sparco's website, i see they charge $229 for a similar wheel. call me cheap if you like, but i'd say that's a compelling argument.

quote Originally posted by Boomtastic: Fiero5 - what's the going rate for a bottle fill these days? My shop down here isn't doing it any longer and I might have to find a new place to refill.

Up here we have two places near us that do it. One is in WRJ VT that charges $5. per lb and another place in Springfield VT that charges $5.25 per lb.
The place that is a bit less expensive in WRJ is very close to us so that works out well

I didn't know you had a Fiero that has NOS. But I would certainly think that you should be able to find someone a lot closer to you down there that can do it?

O_O!

Happy Birthday Jordan!!

May your all your dreams come true and all your toys not break, at least not for a little while anyway

From your loving family, Stephen, Tarrah, Mom, Dad, Grandma & Grandpa

Are those chev truck tail lights....but laying on their side?

$5.25 a lb?!! Damn, and I thougt it was expensive here. To fill a 10lb bottle it comes to 42 bucks with tax...

And lil Devil... You are no longer allowed to post pics of your car on this forum, not unless you put a warning equivalent to 5 lines of text before the actual picture. My jaw is starting to get sore.

Those tail lights are looking nice
I hope to get the new side vents for the nose repainted tomorrow

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quote Originally posted by GTFiero1: a wet shot would have been a much better system seeing as its throttle body injected. The intake is already designed to flow fuel through it and it has a single injector that your almost doubling the horsepower with. I give the car another couple of bottles before you stack the rings on a couple pistons. People have blown 6's on a 75 shot, i am hesitating on putting a 125 shot on a 2.8 with forged pistons and everything built and balanced. Ill start it off with a 75 shot that after a few bottles ill crank it up. A friend just blew his 2.2 on his cavalier with a 75 shot of nitrous, cooked a piston, and hes no amature with nitrous and the 2.2 is a much better motor than the 2.5. I wouldnt put more than a 35 shot on a duke, a wet 35 shot

and when did you become a mechanical genious knowing whats better and all that crap i remeber when you used to ask me questions on aol about fiero stuff and you really didnt know a whole lot but now cause you have a gt thats has a such a well bilt 2.8 you think you know whats best for every one elses fiero why dont you go drool on your daddys chevell some more pffff 2.2 only better cause it has 4 injectors other than that and the timing chain its not a whole lot different
some ppl are just ignorant the duke is a good motor they last forever my dad has a 74 grew boat that has a duke in it and its never been touched other then oil changes and spark plugs and they take a little more beating then a car motor and it doesnt skip a beat if you dont own one or have any freaking experiance with one keep your fingers off the key board and keep it to your self i have put my duke through hell and i havent blown it up yet theres been times where mine has seen 6000 rpms thats right 6 grand it didnt even cough or smoke after that so stop bashing the duke its not a bad motor its not an unreliable motor its not a problem at all just some ppl have there head up there ass about these motors and have no faith my old duke sat for 3yrs never started never fogged and i pulled it out of storeage tosed a battery in it and flicked the key and it fired right up the only reason i replace it with a new duke was cause it was getting close to needed timing gears and the compression on the #1 cylender was low but regradless it never ever let me down it never left me stranded and i beat the living snot outa that motor
fiero 5 great job on the install looks cool and i bet the feeling is just awsome hows the car sound once you juice it up get loud? some meaner once again good job and i want a bottle too

i work for gm and theres more problems with the 2.2 then there was for the 2.5 my dad had a 87 pontiac 6000 and it had the duke in it and we sold it to our neighbours with 200 000kms on and they put almost another 200k on it and it still passed emissions right up till they traded it in for a honda accord
the iron duke got its name for a reason for being nearly indistructable they last forever if you take care of them
a guy around the coner from me has an 85 fiero with a 2.5 and he had almost 400k km on it original motor
if its such a bad motor then why did it get used in every thing in its time?? even safari vans but it must be a piece of crap tho so lets bash it
up yours duke haters
im aloud to bash them cause i have one if you dont keep your comments to your self i dont bash the other guys and use dukies dont bash the other guys
sorry if i have offended but its been buggin for quiet some time how every one thinks they blow goats

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Holy sh*t! That's one long sentence!

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quote Originally posted by Firefox: Holy sh*t! That's one long sentence!

ah i cant be bothered to use proper sentence stucture. especally on rants

ooh yes Happy Birthday Jordan

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quote Originally posted by 4BanGinFun: some ppl are just ignorant the duke is a good motor they last forever my dad has a 74 grew boat that has a duke in it and its never been touched other then oil changes and spark plugs and they take a little more beating then a car motor and it doesnt skip a beat if you dont own one or have any freaking experiance with one keep your fingers off the key board and keep it to your self i have put my duke through hell and i havent blown it up yet theres been times where mine has seen 6000 rpms thats right 6 grand it didnt even cough or smoke after that so stop bashing the duke its not a bad motor its not an unreliable motor its not a problem at all just some ppl have there head up there ass about these motors and have no faith my old duke sat for 3yrs never started never fogged and i pulled it out of storeage tosed a battery in it and flicked the key and it fired right up the only reason i replace it with a new duke was cause it was getting close to needed timing gears and the compression on the #1 cylender was low but regradless it never ever let me down it never left me stranded and i beat the living snot outa that motor fiero 5 great job on the install looks cool and i bet the feeling is just awsome hows the car sound once you juice it up get loud? some meaner once again good job and i want a bottle too sorry if i have offended but its been buggin for quiet some time how every one thinks they blow goats

they do blow goats for performance. Its been proved again and again, even on the forum with people cracking blocks and heads. Then of course you get the person "arg, i put 3.2 million miles on my duke with no problem, so of course you can put a crap load of nitrous in it". Stock reliabilty has nothing to do with performance. just because an engine will last 200,000 miles doesnt mean it will last at all doing something it was never ment to do. It's a thin economy block and they're trying to almost double its power output with a dry shot of juice. Anybody who knows anything especially about nitrous knows that engine isnt going to last long at all. Ever see an engine destroyed by nitrous? It isnt pretty. I never said the duke wasnt a reliable motor, i never said that and if you fully read that youd see that. The duke isnt a performer. It was never ment to be a perfromer (the FWD version at least) Thats why if anyone here does anything to a duke they use a superduty. If the duke was an all-mighty engine there would be no need for a superduty and those people are just wasting their money. Whats your GM job? Washing cars at a dealer? Oh and check this out....ready...here it comes... >.< they call it a period. It ends a sentance. its right after the comma which in return is right after the M.

and the "if you dont own one or have an freakin experience with one keep your fingers pff the keyboard" was once of the stupidest comments ive ever heard:

quote Originally posted by 4BanGinFun: and when did you become a mechanical genious knowing whats better and all that crap i remeber when you used to ask me questions on aol about fiero stuff and you really didnt know a whole lot but now cause you have a gt thats has a such a well bilt 2.8 you think you know whats best for every one elses fiero why dont you go drool on your daddys chevell some more pffff 2.2 only better cause it has 4 injectors other than that and the timing chain its not a whole lot different some ppl are just ignorant the duke is a good motor they last forever my dad has a 74 grew boat that has a duke in it and its never been touched other then oil changes and spark plugs and they take a little more beating then a car motor and it doesnt skip a beat if you dont own one or have any freaking experiance with one keep your fingers off the key board and keep it to your self i have put my duke through hell and i havent blown it up yet theres been times where mine has seen 6000 rpms thats right 6 grand it didnt even cough or smoke after that so stop bashing the duke its not a bad motor its not an unreliable motor its not a problem at all just some ppl have there head up there ass about these motors and have no faith my old duke sat for 3yrs never started never fogged and i pulled it out of storeage tosed a battery in it and flicked the key and it fired right up the only reason i replace it with a new duke was cause it was getting close to needed timing gears and the compression on the #1 cylender was low but regradless it never ever let me down it never left me stranded and i beat the living snot outa that motor fiero 5 great job on the install looks cool and i bet the feeling is just awsome hows the car sound once you juice it up get loud? some meaner once again good job and i want a bottle too i work for gm and theres more problems with the 2.2 then there was for the 2.5 my dad had a 87 pontiac 6000 and it had the duke in it and we sold it to our neighbours with 200 000kms on and they put almost another 200k on it and it still passed emissions right up till they traded it in for a honda accord the iron duke got its name for a reason for being nearly indistructable they last forever if you take care of them a guy around the coner from me has an 85 fiero with a 2.5 and he had almost 400k km on it original motor if its such a bad motor then why did it get used in every thing in its time?? even safari vans but it must be a piece of crap tho so lets bash it up yours duke haters im aloud to bash them cause i have one if you dont keep your comments to your self i dont bash the other guys and use dukies dont bash the other guys sorry if i have offended but its been buggin for quiet some time how every one thinks they blow goats

I'm tempted to rewrite that just so I'll be able to read it.

quote Originally posted by Smoof: I'm tempted to rewrite that just so I'll be able to read it.

Not worth the trouble...

Let me run it through my translator for you..

"Ug.. duke gawd.. I have 3 bazillion miles on my duke.. my daddy has duke boat. GM duke everything. Duke gawd.... you all STFU cause you don't own duke so youz is stupid!!!~!~!!!!"

Ya.. that pretty much sums it up.

ok, this is good. it's no longer a fiero5-bashing thread, it's a duke bshing thread. cool.

My favorite kind!

I blew up a duke once.....

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quote Originally posted by datacop: Not worth the trouble... Let me run it through my translator for you.. "Ug.. duke gawd.. I have 3 bazillion miles on my duke.. my daddy has duke boat. GM duke everything. Duke gawd.... you all STFU cause you don't own duke so youz is stupid!!!~!~!!!!" Ya.. that pretty much sums it up.

LMAO

I have a duke that's accidentally seen 7000-7500RPM. I was on the highway doing probably 75MPH and was losing speed due to a hill, so I was going to go down to 4th gear, but instead of hitting 4th gear, I threw it into 2nd gear.....After doing that, my car was making a really bad sound, so I parked it, thinking I now had a rod knocking. Well this was a new rebuilt engine from Autozone, I just told them it started doing that on it's own, so they told me to take it too this one mechanic to look at it.....All he did was take off my oil pan bolt and left it off, took him 3 weeks to do that too. He just told Autozone that there engine sucked, so Autozone gave me another duke....So after getting the engine, my dad and I took out the engine and found out that it was my clutch that blew up, and the flywheel was making the rod knocking sound. So I just bought a new clutch and put it back in, the engine still runs fine now. It's still horribly underpowered though.

If a stock duke can take 75 hp shot can a stock 4.9 do the same ???

quote Originally posted by 86fieroEarl: If a stock duke can take 75 hp shot can a stock 4.9 do the same ???

Here's a little hint. A duke "can't" take a 75 shot. If Steve actually uses it he will find out soon enough. I know he said he used it and I don't want to be calling anybody a liar, but I didn't see any system to plumb more fuel into that duke and since its a dry shot, I don't see how that motor won't lean out and shatter the rings or poke a hole in the block.

Ho yah GET OUT DA WAY !! DA fast and DA furious!!!!

I live my life every 18 seconds for those 18 seconds Im free.

Dude I almost had you........... You almost had me? You never had your geo metro..... Now the mad scientist is gonna have to tear that down!

ZOOOOM!!!! Watch out for the cops they got dat new hijack system dat shuts electrics down!!!! Ha!!! My car is fiberglass!!!! I CAN hit NOs all DaY lOng Duwd!!!

i ges taht ansers taht qestun.

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: We have been a bit busy today working on the latest mod for Jordans F&F Fiero Mmmm, shiny new tail lights

Alrighty then...

W0Rd.

75 shot on a duke?
Please prove us wrong an take a video....
I'd love to see it.

quote Originally posted by chester: Alrighty then...

Kinda looks like a photo chop..... Could be me.

Well, let me tell you that we talked to Holley directly who helped set us up with what we needed. They then worked thru Advanced Auto here in West Lebanon to get us what we needed. Advanced was the closest retail outlet to us that was willing to work with Holley to help set us up, and one of the guys at Holley worked with one of the managers at Advanced who then helped us install it to make sure it was set up correctly. He has done quite a few and was willing to help us to make sure it was set up correctly and to make sure the risk of engine damage (though we all know there are no guarentees) was minimal. I did buy him a DVD he had said he wanted as a nice thank you for helping us.
The reason we called Holley at all was because we couldn't get the green painted NOS bottle I had picked up awhile back to hitch up correctly. We had been trying to get it installed off and on for the past month or so with no luck. After calling Holley we found out the valves were different and that we were trying to hitch up part of an older system to part a newer system. Hey, what did we know
See, we didn't know anything about nitrous and never claimed we did, but after trying it on our own and realizing we had almsot no clue what we were doing we figured we had better talk to the experts and get some help. So I went on the web and got a techniocal support number and talked to a couple of guys at Holley over the phone. The two guys we talked to were all very nice and very helpfull. They looked up what car and engine we had and how the fuel injection worked and all that. After looking all the info over and asking us a bunch more questions they recomended the dry system as the best way for us to go. They said that a wet system is usually recommended for a fully rebuilt bigger HP engine as it can help put out much more HP. They recomended a dry set up as it is a bit less expensive, it is easier to set yup and puts out less HP which would be less of a strain on the engine. They also said the dry system is more efficiant on smaller engines like a 4 cyl.
Also, just because it is a 75 shot doesn't mean we have to run it at the full level either which was another reason we liked the sounds of the dry system over the wet.
Hope that helps dispell some of the disbelievers. If not, oh well. It works fine, hasn't blown up the engine yet, what else can I say.

Well, gotta go back outside now that the rain has stopped and try and finish up the new altezza tail light mod

See ya

quote Originally posted by 4BanGinFun: ah i cant be bothered to use proper sentence stucture. especally on rants

Cool. And I won't be bothered to read grade school grammar. If you had point to make, maybe someone will read and decipher it.

quote Originally posted by Lex: Kinda looks like a photo chop..... Could be me.

LOL yeah suurrre it is...
See Lex, a comment like that doesn't work in real life. Why? Because when we go to a car show it's pretty dang hard to photoshop the car when it's sitting at a show
In fact we are going to a show with it tomorrow where many will get to see it.
I could always post pics of it afterwards from the show .......

quote Originally posted by iced_theater: I have a duke that's accidentally seen 7000-7500RPM. I was on the highway doing probably 75MPH and was losing speed due to a hill, so I was going to go down to 4th gear, but instead of hitting 4th gear, I threw it into 2nd gear.....found out that it was my clutch that blew up, and the flywheel was making the rod knocking sound. So I just bought a new clutch and put it back in, the engine still runs fine now. It's still horribly underpowered though.

I don't think the engine actually saw 7000-7500 RPM. If the clutch blew, it's likely because the engine couldn't turn as fast as the transmission was trying to turn it, so the clutch slipped and blew. Considering it's 4500 RPM redline, I'm pretty confident 7000 RPM would destroy it.

The Duke is a great engine for what it was designed for. Cheap and economical transportation with some torque. I'd rather drive an economy car with a Duke than a 1.8L that has to buzz 7000 RPM to make any power. The Duke doesn't have much, but what it's got is readily available at most RPMs.

Stock, they are quite reliable. Modified is an entirely different matter. A friend of mine has an 88 Fiero 5-speed that has about 270,000 miles on it's Duke, and it's neve been apart. (clutch replacement, but the engine hasn't been apart). It is totally stock, but has had the crap driven out of it.