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1990 fiero prototype by aaronrus
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could anybody tell me where to find nice pictures of the 1990 fiero prototype that GM made and displayed at the 20th anniversary event last year?
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FUGLY ! Thank god they stopped at 88
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Originally posted by sheppard00:

http://www.vintageweb.net/ccpa/prototyp/90fiero.jpg

Well, that's not the one that was at the 20th. Here's a couple of links with photos, there's a lot more if you search for them, these are just two that I had in my Favorites...

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20031229-1-032252.html

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20040223-1-031612.html

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The Fiero GTP was much more attractive than the coupes shown above.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030531-1-026129.html

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Here is the 90 Proto at the 20th. I took this from the 8th floor of the hotel.

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Originally posted by sheppard00:

http://www.vintageweb.net/ccpa/prototyp/90fiero.jpg

I believe that the silver one is/was the 1989/1990 Coupe/Notchback version... There's some picture's of the Silver one's sitting outside in a holding yard in Aussieland of all place's! ;dizzy:

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Here is a tail end pic with the engine and trunk bays open.

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the door panels look like one from a beretta, but without the holders on the bottom of the door.

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Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:

FUGLY ! Thank god they stopped at 88


Either you're joking, or just out of your mind! That car is freaking TITS!


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Immagine the ahole mechanic bitching about that motor position..?
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Originally posted by Arizona85GT:

Either you're joking, or just out of your mind! That car is freaking TITS!


Adam


I loved it too I could not believe it when I first seen it their. Acura must have seen a photo or too because their NSX looks alot like the 90 prototype.

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Could the trunk on that be opened without having to open the engine cover?
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Originally posted by stimpy:

Could the trunk on that be opened without having to open the engine cover?

yes you could open just the one you wanted too.

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Originally posted by Arizona85GT:

Either you're joking, or just out of your mind! That car is freaking TITS!


Adam



I think he was referring to the Silver Coupe.. lol
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I have all my pictures of the 90 prototype online at: http://photos.yahoo.com/fierobear

If you have trouble accessing it, let me know, and I'll double check sharing parameters.

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Any ideas where I can get some wheels like those? They are awesome!
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Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:


I believe that the silver one is/was the 1989/1990 Coupe/Notchback version... There's some picture's of the Silver one's sitting outside in a holding yard in Aussieland of all place's! ;dizzy:

The silver ones were in a detroit holding yard. A friend of mine took the pics on a trip he organised for Pontiac entusiasts. I was meant to go on that trip too and didn't
Coulda pilfered it for small parts

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Originally posted by Silicoan86:

Any ideas where I can get some wheels like those? They are awesome!

I believe those are the same wheels that came on the Trans Am GTA's. The offset (and possibly the bolt pattern) wouldn't be right to just put 'em right on your Fiero, though...

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Originally posted by LZeitgeist:


I believe those are the same wheels that came on the Trans Am GTA's. The offset (and possibly the bolt pattern) wouldn't be right to just put 'em right on your Fiero, though...

They're not the same as the GTA's. The only other set I know of are on FieroMonkey's prototype.

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Fear not! The red 90 prototype is awsome but the pics of the cars (i will not call them fieros blah!) in the first link that was provided are just plain ugly ! they did nothing for me except turn my stomach ! sorry for the confusion. The fiero is a sports car ,short, low and sleek, those other cars are none of the above.
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edit sorry double post DOH!

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This is the plastic wheel Pontiac and Motorwheel were working on. The plastic wheel program was done and abandoned by 1987. The 1990 has aluminum wheels to the best of my knowledge.

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One of my photos

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Originally posted by Silicoan86:

Any ideas where I can get some wheels like those? They are awesome!

Those wheels were used on the later Trans Ams. GM had these wheel centers custom drilled for the Fiero bolt pattern. Theoretically it might be possible to get a set of the Trans Am wheels and do some welding/machine work to convert them to the Fiero mounting, but I wouldn't trust a wheel that's been modified that way.

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fierobear!!

did you happen to take any pictures of the interior while you were at it?
any nice hi-res pictures?

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seeing that car makes me wish they had never stopped making fiero's.....why did they stop making them anyway didnt they sell like hotcakes? maybe they will start making fiero's again and then I will buy one and as soon as I go to put the key in the ignition I will wake up yea I wish

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Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:

FUGLY ! Thank god they stopped at 88


Hi all,

Agrees with him.....Thank god they stopped at 88....

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Yeah, those look like the 16x8" GTA wheels. It would be easier to change the Fiero bolt pattern to the 5x4.75" than modify the wheels to the Fiero's 5x100mm. Not sure what the offset would do to you, though, since the 90 proto has much wider fenders. Those wheels would probably stick WAY out - looking like some Mexican low-rider with rubber 2" outside the fenderwells.

'88-'92 Trans Am 16x8" (5x4.75")

Another option would be to go with OEM FWD wheels:
'89-'86 Grand Prix 16x8" (5x115)

'93-'99 Bonneville 16x7" (5x115)

You'd probably only be able to use the F-body wheels with either a modded suspension, IMSA wide body, or fender flares. The Bonneville and Grand Prix wheels are very similar, but don't have the deep dish offset. Of course, that deep offset is what really made the wheels stand out. Otherwise they look like 16" versions of stock Fiero wheels.

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Originally posted by Flyguyeddy:

fierobear!!

did you happen to take any pictures of the interior while you were at it?
any nice hi-res pictures?

Nope, I didn't get any of the interior. I wasn't around when the doors were unlocked. I was asleep when they unloaded, and in the banquet when they loaded it up again.

All the pictures I have on the web are high res, 2048 x 1532. You should be able to download any of them.

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Absolutely beautiful!

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Even if you like the looks of the 90 GTA prototype, you gotta admit its silly.

It has a stock 88 spaceframe. All the changes are cosmetic - a bunch of extra plastic - no more engine space, no more passenger space. Just a bunch of extra weight, and a larger trunk.

I'd rather have the 90 coupe body (looks like those are 2 different cars in 1st pic and i'm not sure either was the one they produced) - maybe they woulda continued the Formula. Of course the wheels (hubcaps?) in that pic are extremely fugly.

Saturn body panels are lighter than Fiero panels - that combined with a stronger engine woulda made a great 90 Formula.

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89 / 90 Coupe / Formula pics:

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That last pic is a horrible representation of the nose. Look at the fascia in the 2nd pic for scale.

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Originally posted by cccharlie:

89 / 90 Coupe / Formula pics:

They are the pics my friend took in the Pontiac holding yard. Still kicking myself for not going on that trip.

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Originally posted by cccharlie:
Saturn body panels are lighter than Fiero panels - .

How do you figure? It's my understanding that Saturn body panels and Fiero body panels are made exactly the same way. I believe that Saturn even uses some of the same machines that were used during Fiero production in creation of the body panels.

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Anyone know where all the Fiero prototypes are now? I would guess most of them have been crushed

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Originally posted by Formula88:


How do you figure? It's my understanding that Saturn body panels and Fiero body panels are made exactly the same way. I believe that Saturn even uses some of the same machines that were used during Fiero production in creation of the body panels.


You can mold different thicknesses of materials (and even different materials) with the same machines. The fact that they may use some of the same machines means absolutely nothing. Sheet metal has gotten thinner over the years too - GM sometimes uses the same presses for different gauges rather than buying a new press.

I dont mean to imply that there would be an enormous weight savings, but there is a difference.

I have one of each in my driveway. You know which one hurts less to punch.

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Quote from this article: http://www.plastics-car.com/applications/exterior.html
"The first use of plastic in body panels was in Chevrolet's Corvette (SMC), followed by Pontiac's Fiero (RIM). General Motor's Saturn line of cars is the first to use thermoplastics."

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So the 90 prototype is suppost to be a GT?

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