I promised to post these pics, prices and parts #'s in another thread. Rather than find the thread, I decided to post in a new one. I hope the info is helpful.
Orville
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member
Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
I promised to post these pics, prices and parts #'s in another thread. Rather than find the thread, I decided to post in a new one. I hope the info is helpful.
Orville
Whew, $ 340.00 per pair + shipping & the customer has to trim them to fit. I should start selling them.
How does the curvature match your needs?
Archie
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Aug 26th, 2004
Will-Martin Member
Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
If I lived next door to you, I'd be at your shop so much you'd have to put me on your payroll.
Orville
That's exactly why I hired the late Rich Warber, he was retired but he was much too smart to let sit at home. I told his wife that I could get him out of her hair for 8 hours a day.
Archie
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Aug 29th, 2004
NotAFieroAnyLonger Member
Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
alot of people have... funny they dont seem as expensive and hard to find as once believed.
These wimdow's and the one's that Archie uses are 2 different animal's... These WILL NOT fit Archie's chop's btu will only fit Orvilles... Because of the 'angle' of the top.. So, if you are planning using these for a choptop, better get the window's FIRST, that way you be sure and chop it at an angle...
Right Archie..?? Right Orville..??
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joshua riedl Member
Posts: 1426 From: watertown wi USA Registered: Jan 2004
i was wondering the same thing as smooth. if orville's roof is stock and lowered the angle should be the same as archie's even if it has a different windshield. unless maybe the roof is wider so it keeps the same angle and then why would orville post this for everyone when he knows the general way a chop is done?
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Okay... Here's what I know.. or at least think I know about chops...
On Archie's cars, the windshield is laid back making the area if the top shorter from front to rear. One Orville's cars, a different windshield is used and basically the roof area comes straight down and is close to the same length as stock front to rear. However. Orville's top is wider than than stock...
But... This window should work on either type of car. It is all in the trimming and in the adjustment inside the door.
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Archie Member
Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
In the second picture that Orville posted. You see the tinted (or painted) Fiero side window laying on top of the Summit plastic windows. That appears to be a stock Fiero side window. The point is that you would can trim the Summit window to the correct perimeter for whatever type of chop you are doing.
Orville mentioned that the Summit window has the curvature of the stock Camaro or Fiero window. On my sidewindows the window curves in at least 3" more than the stock window.
Archie
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Orville Member
Posts: 263 From: Bakersfield, Ca USA Registered: Dec 2000
To answer your questions: On my chop the angles of the "A" and "B" pillars toward center are stock. I think Archies angle inward more than stock because laying back the stock winshield narrows the roof. That's why his windows are curved inward 3". I'm not sure if that's for each windowor or total but I suppose it's total. In each case this lexan will work because it has the same curves vertically and horizonally as the stock fiero glass. Where the curve differs however is in the portion bellow the dew wipes that attachs to the raising/lowering mechanism. What I did was position/fasten the cut-to-size lexan to the edge of a table with the portion just below the dew wipe along the edge of the table. Then I heated the lexan along this edge with a heat gun and carefully curved it downward by pushing with a peice of 2x4 until it had the same curve in this area as the stock glass. I'm not sure but I think this procedure would also work for Archie's chop, just have to bend it a little more.
Couple more things: The black material on top of the lexan in the pic is the template for the cut down window. Also, this lexan is 3/16" thick which I think will work although in my other chop I used 1/4". The stock thickness is about 7/32".
Orville
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Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
To answer your questions: On my chop the angles of the "A" and "B" pillars toward center are stock. I think Archies angle inward more than stock because laying back the stock winshield narrows the roof. That's why his windows are curved inward 3". I'm not sure if that's for each windowor or total but I suppose it's total. In each case this lexan will work because it has the same curves vertically and horizonally as the stock fiero glass. Where the curve differs however is in the portion bellow the dew wipes that attachs to the raising/lowering mechanism. What I did was position/fasten the cut-to-size lexan to the edge of a table with the portion just below the dew wipe along the edge of the table. Then I heated the lexan along this edge with a heat gun and carefully curved it downward by pushing with a peice of 2x4 until it had the same curve in this area as the stock glass. I'm not sure but I think this procedure would also work for Archie's chop, just have to bend it a little more.
Couple more things: The black material on top of the lexan in the pic is the template for the cut down window. Also, this lexan is 3/16" thick which I think will work although in my other chop I used 1/4". The stock thickness is about 7/32".
Orville
Each window is curved inward at least 3".
I use a stock Fiero windshield, thus the Fiero roof stays at the same width, But it's 3" lower so the side windows need to curve in more & earlier.
Archie
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Orville Member
Posts: 263 From: Bakersfield, Ca USA Registered: Dec 2000
thanks for the info. it may work for me 'cause whoever did the chop on the car i have widened the roof also, so the lexan orville found may work better for me.
that's the first time i've read about your having to bend the bottom part (below the dew wipe) though. could i do that in a bending brake? i've bent lexan that way before once or twice. or would the bend be too sharp (or not enough radius i guess might be a better term) that way?