Originally posted by doublec4: Idea #3 ---> Integra c/f euro lights. Same ones that Fie Ro used on his fastback, but in c/f. The lenses sit in the c/f panel and the clear case goes over top.
Small correction: I used Prelude lights.... and I guess they're too big for a notchy, like many other lights too. It is hard to find anything with the right shape that also fits. I tried some angled red Apc truck lights in this PS:
Ow btw, if you think the style is dated........:
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whoa sweet I might have to get a notchie to do that!! I don't think those would be hard to make at all you already have most of it just need new inserts inside.
oh can someone change the pontiac to fiero or fiero gt ? That would be bad azz
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Tabs31 Member
Posts: 2049 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Nov 2001
As nice as it may be it is not in any way possible to build on a Fiero buyers budget. For the money invested in something like that one would be better off reproducing fastback tail lights. More of a market that will pay the cost. This contest is about existing lights that can be adapted into a new panel. Not make new backing sections, new inner lenses and new outer lense. There is not one person here who would be willing to pay the price I dont think. So keep em coming
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LoW_KeY Member
Posts: 8081 From: Hastings, MI Registered: Oct 2001
I'm too lazy to re-do this to fit the image that the rules require. Perhaps you've seen it in a previous thread:
Slats and round lights both.
i vote for this one
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doublec4 Member
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Small correction: I used Prelude lights.... and I guess they're too big for a notchy, like many other lights too. It is hard to find anything with the right shape that also fits.
Oops, sorry, I thought they were integra lights.. oh well... when you measured them, is its the case thats too big for the notchie panel, or the lenses, cause thats all that needs to be used. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was Kento or somebody that fit integra tail lights into a notchback panel space?
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Sep 9th, 2004
Mickey_Moose Member
Posts: 7545 From: Edmonton, AB, Canada Registered: May 2001
just to add - the top picture is 90 proto type inspired - the second picture, the lenses are from a 91-92 TransAm GTA. The T/A will not fit as it is too tall (unless you wish to modify the decklid), but if new inserts were made for the Fiero lens, the pattern can be achieved. The outer lens on the T/A is just smoked plastic light the Fiero ones. And someone at one point made a kit for the 'Pontiac' lettering
Tim
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Rare87GT Member
Posts: 5064 From: Wichita, KS USA Registered: Oct 2001
As nice as it may be it is not in any way possible to build on a Fiero buyers budget. For the money invested in something like that one would be better off reproducing fastback tail lights. More of a market that will pay the cost. This contest is about existing lights that can be adapted into a new panel. Not make new backing sections, new inner lenses and new outer lense. There is not one person here who would be willing to pay the price I dont think. So keep em coming
I would pay money for these if they were produced. I think they look killer. I would probably pay up to $400 or so for something like this. Just looks sick. Let me know as you can make me a set can't you
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FieroBUZZ Member
Posts: 3320 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Feb 2001
As nice as it may be it is not in any way possible to build on a Fiero buyers budget. For the money invested in something like that one would be better off reproducing fastback tail lights. More of a market that will pay the cost. This contest is about existing lights that can be adapted into a new panel. Not make new backing sections, new inner lenses and new outer lense. There is not one person here who would be willing to pay the price I dont think. So keep em coming
Actually, this is not too bad for a one-off, although probably too expensive for 'mass' production as Aus points out.
You can keep the Fiero backing. What you need to do is disassemble the light, and remove the red and clear lenses. Use plastic to make the top and bottom 'spacer' part of the lens to the size you need. Then cut out your donor lens to the correct size to fit the front (replacing the stepped Fiero lens portion) and glue it to the spacer to make a new coloured lens. Refit this to the backing and replace the clear cover.
Depending on your choice of colours, you may need to build up the backing at the edge of the light sections to prevent light leaking thru from one colour light socket to the other. You may also need to modify the wiring a bit to make the lights work as desired. This is especially true if you delete the back up portion in favour of an extra brake or turn light.
Camaros have red and amber and the Firebird ones have the lined look as the pic shown above.
The only snag is that you have a right and left light as stock. You could use the light sockets as they are stock and make a panel to cover the center section if that's your plan. It will then appear as a single unit from side to side.
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
Just to add, most of my designs, I took into account keeping the inner panel to drive costs down and just for simplicity. The supra ones I made wouldn't be too difficult I think. If the supra lenses don't fit, any smaller circular lenses will do.
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Posts: 3320 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Feb 2001
Another thing is that if you keep the stock number of lights, you can modify the center section to personalize the look. Stock Fiero lights are blank here so you can add what you want.
Under the stock clear lens cover, use a plain coloured panel (body colour, accent, or c/f) Add to these panels what you want (each side)
1. It can be any size P O N T I A C done in paint or letters from the junkyard.
2. Something personal I considered a script FieroBUZZ on one side and 3800 supercharged on the other for example.
3. Make a covering panel that sits close to or follows the clear cover, cut out P O N T I A C and have lights behind to light it up. Could also be clear and painted to block light where not wanted.
Sorry to hijack the theme of the thread Aus.
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BobadooFunk Member
Posts: 5436 From: Pittsburgh PA Registered: Jun 2003
i dunno i think i will stick with stock, looking at the back of the car at night is such a beautiful sight, seriously its one of the reasons i bought the car, it looks so good all the way around. thats why when i custimize it i will try as hard as i can to still maintain that "origional" Fiero look. you know Steve im becoming more and more like you (i dont know WHEN my car will be done :P ) -Jerry
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10:35 AM
Kento Member
Posts: 4218 From: Beautifull Winston Salem NC Registered: Jun 2003
I got some more ideas here. They may or may not be feasible in the sense that the existing lenses fit. If people were willing to have some made to fit, I guess it would cost more. Anyways, here are some more options:
These first ones are jspec mr2 lenses:
These are 1998 240sx lenses (silvia?):
These are 1992 240sx (s13?) lenses, but only the top half. I cut the bottom off that was just an amber bar.
Lastly, these are 180sx jspec tail lights:
Let me know what you think.... personally I like the mr2 ones with the red panel
Here is someting to get the creative juices flowing. 1972 Australian Ford Falcon lenses used in a custom carbonfibre panel and the reflectors changed to reversing lights. These lenses are reflective so the lower ones aren't needed and reversing lights are.
Aus, I like this one, but would rather have all the lights red, instead of the amber light in the middle. That way there is no re-wiring, except for the back up lights, which I already have. I'd also just want it to be paintable, as I'd rather have it body color than carbon fiber. Maybe you can have a couple options. I like the overall design, though. It fits well with the Fiero. Are those lights only available in Austrailia? And I'm sure you designed them to be proportional, but what size are they? From your picture, I'm guessing by your picture that the lights are about 3x4 inches.
BTW, do you think you could photoshop that real quick? And maybe make the car blue?
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09:18 PM
AusFiero Member
Posts: 11513 From: Dapto NSW Australia Registered: Feb 2001
Those lights are actually a one piece panel and I have included the orange for a couple of reasons. The obvious of the light being joined and the fact that if I make the lights all red it confines the product to the USA only market. The Euro guys need amber lenses as we do here. If I am to make that one (it is my favoured choice time and cost wise) I could probably get the lenses reproduced as 3 units anyway giving the option of different colours. I might photoshop it with a 4th lense too for reversing lights. Any design could be done in either carbonfibre or fibreglass. The latter having the biggest market anyway.
A few of the submitted designs I like but they are on the most part not practical to make.
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birdpoo Member
Posts: 251 From: 33N,117W, sunny, no snow or road salt ever Registered: Sep 2001
If they weren't so curved on the outside, these would get my vote!!!
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Vonov Member
Posts: 3745 From: Nashville,TN,USA Registered: May 2004
I got some more ideas here. They may or may not be feasible in the sense that the existing lenses fit. If people were willing to have some made to fit, I guess it would cost more. Anyways, here are some more options:
These first ones are jspec mr2 lenses:
These are 1998 240sx lenses (silvia?):
These are 1992 240sx (s13?) lenses, but only the top half. I cut the bottom off that was just an amber bar.
Let me know what you think.... personally I like the mr2 ones with the red panel
These two look pretty smooth...
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
the MR2 lights that you posted are Series2 SW20 (94-95) usdm lights... im betting that they would work GREAT!!! you could also use the stock series 1 SW20(91-93) tail lamps
I like the light up pontiac. This is with a smoked lense over a lot of stuff i stole from examples and the other entries, but tweaked enough to make my own.
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have just been out to meassure the highth of the tails. the round 4" truck led ligths are just a little to big. have been thinking about those. i would think something using the lights of a 146 or 156 alfa romeo would be nice. should be cheap. 146
not good at photoshop but have been looking at those for some time now.
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
