You do realize that once you answer the question I will stop asking right?
I thoguht this forum was about sharing info. Why dont' you want to share the info Steve?
other forum members can learn from this too if they want to install nitrous on there duke as well. They will know what jets to put in.
THanks
SH
LOL Well, here is what I get from you two when I share what info I know:
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Originally posted by The Punisher:
Don't listen to these Yahoo's . Search the Forum under 1FST2M6. What the hell would a guy running a 15 shot on a duke know about nitrous? it's there for show in his case. I ran a 75 Shot on my 2.8 4spd , it ran stong. Shaun Hammitt put numerous bottles through an 85 GT auto that would turn low 14's (slips to prove) with sub 2 sec 60 ft. MY experience with nitrous is that it's all in the prep , talk to the RIGHT people who have been running it for a while. Once you use it you will feel comfortable with it. I just picked up aSNiper Kit (N.O.S) from ebay for my Big Block Caddy
Sorry you took offense to my opinion.. Hope I don't get a negative from you because we disagree.
BTW- I didn't make up the term 'cheat juice'. It's been around for a couple of decades.
Nope, no negatives here - everyones entitled to their opinion. I my case I have more then enough for now and won't be filling the bottle any time soon...but once I get used to the go pedal it will be nice to have another 150 HP on tap.
And of course, your next thing is that any of us who aren't in the red for our actions are only doing things to try to make us heros... Actually, no, we just remember when the forum was a nicer place without all the crap that the same people start over and over...
Without all the crap eh?? Then why did you bother posting in this thread (Ie contributing to the crap) when you have no idea what the subject is about and have made it clear about how you feel about the use of nitrous. Clearly you have no business in this thread so I guess I fail to see why you posted in it
JM
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Same reason I posted in the last three threads where he/you followed fiero5 around asking the same question... Not as a legitimate question, but as a way to try to discredit him. I don't know fiero5 and I don't know either of you. But I know who goes out looking to start trouble.. Apparently so do a lot of other people judging by the red. But oh yeah, ya'll are proud of that red.
And yeah, I do know what the subject is... and I don't have to like nitrous to be able to post in a thread. Your logic is pretty flawed here.. By the way.. If I have no right in this thread, what gives you the right? You have no more to do with this than I do... Pretty good system you guys have, if there really are two of you... You can come in and defend each other when it gets too hot and the logic starts getting in the way of your agenda.
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Same reason I posted in the last three threads where he/you followed fiero5 around asking the same question... Not as a legitimate question, but as a way to try to discredit him. I don't know fiero5 and I don't know either of you. But I know who goes out looking to start trouble.. Apparently so do a lot of other people judging by the red. But oh yeah, ya'll are proud of that red.
And yeah, I do know what the subject is... and I don't have to like nitrous to be able to post in a thread. Your logic is pretty flawed here.. By the way.. If I have no right in this thread, what gives you the right? You have no more to do with this than I do... Pretty good system you guys have, if there really are two of you... You can come in and defend each other when it gets too hot and the logic starts getting in the way of your agenda.
So you basically one of the Forum ""hero's"" I eluded to that goes around avenging all posts you deem to be crap , or stiring the pot... Since when Did Cliff make you a moderator?
You have no knowledge of Nitrous , your not in this thread to learn , you here to be some sort of moderator , but last time I checked you aren't and you name isn't cliff.
JM
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Are you a politician? You're spinning and twisting makes it appear so..
No, I am no hero or moderator... What I am is a member of this forum who has always tried to be helpful and polite. I have watched this forum be taken over by people who think causing enough trouble to get a red rating is something to be proud of. What I am is old enough and intelligent enough to know right from wrong, and also know that rules are set up for a reason. And that reason is not just so people can break them and cause trouble...
I also know that there there are a lot more of us who want this forum to be friendly, than there are of you who want to go against that.
Now.. When did you become a moderator? Is your name Cliff? Are you here to talk about nitrous? Or are you just here to be a hero of the red bar brigade and protect your friend/brother/alter ego or whatever you call yourselves?
As I said, I am here because I am a longtime member of this forum in good standing. I also have never been banned and allowed to come back after making promises to be good that turned out not to be true. I read a lot of threads on these forums that I may or may not agree with. That is how we learn. But I am in this particular thread because it was started to cause BS on this forum and I don't like it... I think I have stated this very clearly several times. Do you have a question or a problem with that? I am not impressed by your red bar or your trying to twist my words or intimidate me like you do others... So now what?
As I have already pointed out, the pictures above prove that the car has nitrous as fiero5 has said. Your buddy is always calling him a liar and has been proven wrong. Why can't you two just admit that you are wrong in your attacks and quit trying to switch it off onto another subject.
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and people wonder why Fiero5 is vebally raped from time to time. These are a few of my favorites that i dug up from the Archives since i'm such a horrible person and all. And you can also see how well he treats people like SH (shaun41178) and such. that and he claims wild things and DOES NOT back them up...
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20010924-1-007141-2.html “For very little money, you can get a 4 banger to perform so close to a V6, the only difference is what the engine looks like when you open the rear deck lid. My Fiero5 can keep up with the best of 'em. I even have a few V6 owners that can verify it first hand.”
“Hmmm, it might help if you used a good running iron duke for comparison maybe? Of the 4 cyl ones we have, they are all in excellent shape, are well maintained and so they perform similar to any stock V6.”
“The 4 cyl has no power? I don't think so. We just tested my 85 2M4 that has over 150,000 miles on it, but has been well maintained. We did 0-60 in just 8 seconds, and that was with a passenger ”
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20020118-1-009126-3.html “My Fiero5 is also a stock 4 banger, and it easily does 120MPH plus and can stick to the a$$ of any stock GT out there. Fiero1 and Fiero9 are right up there also. This isn't my opinion, it is the facts that can and has been backed up by other Fiero owners many times.”
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030204-1-023175.html “Well, lets see. As many of you know I happen to have a "few" 4 bangers, and I have pushed a few them to some pretty impressive speeds. I have had a few of them with the 120 speedo pegged, so based on others I was racing or following or what have you, so as for top end they have been up around 130 to 135mph”
I really like this next story
“Another time I played with a Viper (or more likely he played with me) as we were flying North on the highway. He was obviously casually cruising for a Viper but I was really pushing Fiero5 to stay with him and actually passed him at a guess of about 130mph or so. He smiled and waved to us as we passed which was kinda cool. He isn't a jerk or anything as he owns a local business near us and I saw him sometime after and he said "We were buzzing along at about 135". My "Fiero1", a white '84 SE 4 speed has been in the 100mph range as I stayed with a friends beefy '79 Trans Am one time.” “The 4 speeds are tough on high end as they are geared so low. As for off the line, the best time I have done to date in a 4 banger is a 7 second 0-60 in "Fiero8", a silver '85 5 speed. That thing is quick!”
-Fish
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
And what exactly makes these wild claims? A few years ago at the Run For The Hills I had the only 4-cylinder car there (88 CJB T-top coupe) and it held easily with the V6's. The only time that I had trouble with them was on one section of interstate. Through the rest of the Run I held my own quite well.
Also, I was following my buddy Keith (88GT) down to Ed Parks' one time and we were flying! My 85 speedo was well pegged. When we finally got there and I asked Keith how fast we were going, he said he didn't know because his speedo was pegged.
Am I lying and making crazy claims too? The guys at the Run acn verify the performance of my little Duke coupe on that Run. I was glued to the rear of several of those 6's during the day. And Keith can verify the trip to AL... Do I have numbers from a dyno? No. Can I tell you any kind of quarter mile times? No. Can I tell you what size valves or anything is in the engine? No. But I know what the car did...
And as for his treatment of Shaun... I don't treat people too well that attack me for no reason either. Apparently some feel that since fiero5 didn't answer his questions, that gives Shaun a reason to stalk him on the forum. Like I said, the nitrous 'lie' has been proven not to be a lie with photographic evidence. I assume we can put that to bed now.. And I guess I'll now be stalked for thinking my Duke went 120.
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System Bot
Fiero5 Member
Posts: 8882 From: Arecibo, PR Registered: Jun 2000
“For very little money, you can get a 4 banger to perform so close to a V6, the only difference is what the engine looks like when you open the rear deck lid. My Fiero5 can keep up with the best of 'em. I even have a few V6 owners that can verify it first hand.”
Still true. The stock V6 is nothing to brag about either. I said with some mods you can get one up to where it can perform close to one, I never said it could outperform one.
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“Well, I have pegged a 120 speedo in my '87 Fiero5 2M4 on more than a few occassions and also pegged the 85 speedo (soon to be upgraded) in Jordans '85”
Still true, and I have seen many others post that they have been able to peg their speedo's in a 4 banger as well. Interesting how those posts never get quoted.
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"Duke Fieros are like 914 Porsches. All handling and no power." ß-OMG, HE DOES SPEAK TRUTH!!!!!!!! (From time to time)
Still true.
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“Hmmm, it might help if you used a good running iron duke for comparison maybe? Of the 4 cyl ones we have, they are all in excellent shape, are well maintained and so they perform similar to any stock V6.”
Repeat of above. Still true.
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“The 4 cyl has no power? I don't think so. We just tested my 85 2M4 that has over 150,000 miles on it, but has been well maintained. We did 0-60 in just 8 seconds, and that was with a passenger ”
OK, this 0-60 stuff has been beaten to death. If you read the whole thread though it clearly has where I opologize to how we did that. A watch was I agree again and again in hindsite a pretty bad way of trying to do that. Funny how others make mistakes and opologize and we all move on, but I opologized on this one over a year ago and...
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“My Fiero5 is also a stock 4 banger, and it easily does 120MPH plus and can stick to the a$$ of any stock GT out there. Fiero1 and Fiero9 are right up there also. This isn't my opinion, it is the facts that can and has been backed up by other Fiero owners many times.”
Still true.
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“Well, lets see. As many of you know I happen to have a "few" 4 bangers, and I have pushed a few them to some pretty impressive speeds. I have had a few of them with the 120 speedo pegged, so based on others I was racing or following or what have you, so as for top end they have been up around 130 to 135mph”
Still true.
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I really like this next story
“Another time I played with a Viper (or more likely he played with me) as we were flying North on the highway.
Does anyone catch the part where I clearly say, (or more likely he played with me) ? Obviously I knew he could hand me my butt anytime he wanted It was all in fun
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He was obviously casually cruising for a Viper but I was really pushing Fiero5 to stay with him and actually passed him at a guess of about 130mph or so. He smiled and waved to us as we passed which was kinda cool. He isn't a jerk or anything as he owns a local business near us and I saw him sometime after and he said "We were buzzing along at about 135".
See, I know the guy and admited that he was obviously casually cruising and because I knew him when I saw him later and we laughed about that day he told me what speed we were going at when I passed him. This is just another example of how some people will read into something whatever they want to.
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My "Fiero1", a white '84 SE 4 speed has been in the 100mph range as I stayed with a friends beefy '79 Trans Am one time.”
Still true
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“The 4 speeds are tough on high end as they are geared so low. As for off the line, the best time I have done to date in a 4 banger is a 7 second 0-60 in "Fiero8", a silver '85 5 speed. That thing is quick!”
Well, obviously it isn't "that" quick, as I stated before that the way we got that using a watch was pretty terrible. Hey, I made a mistake, what can I say. Of course when some bring these back up a million times and always leave out the rest of the facts is also pretty lame. Actually more so as these are more than a year old at least
I guess some on PFF have nothing better to do than keep dragging back up these old dead and buried out of context crap going.
Steve
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Fiero5 Member
Posts: 8882 From: Arecibo, PR Registered: Jun 2000
And what exactly makes these wild claims? A few years ago at the Run For The Hills I had the only 4-cylinder car there (88 CJB T-top coupe) and it held easily with the V6's. The only time that I had trouble with them was on one section of interstate. Through the rest of the Run I held my own quite well.
Also, I was following my buddy Keith (88GT) down to Ed Parks' one time and we were flying! My 85 speedo was well pegged. When we finally got there and I asked Keith how fast we were going, he said he didn't know because his speedo was pegged.
Am I lying and making crazy claims too? The guys at the Run acn verify the performance of my little Duke coupe on that Run. I was glued to the rear of several of those 6's during the day. And Keith can verify the trip to AL... Do I have numbers from a dyno? No. Can I tell you any kind of quarter mile times? No. Can I tell you what size valves or anything is in the engine? No. But I know what the car did...
And as for his treatment of Shaun... I don't treat people too well that attack me for no reason either. Apparently some feel that since fiero5 didn't answer his questions, that gives Shaun a reason to stalk him on the forum. Like I said, the nitrous 'lie' has been proven not to be a lie with photographic evidence. I assume we can put that to bed now.. And I guess I'll now be stalked for thinking my Duke went 120.
Well, there ya have it I guess however that like me, Songman is actually lying and making completely outrageous claims? Geeze, when will some on here just give all this a freakin' rest allready?
Hahah I love this. This has gotten so far off track its pathetic. Thanks for hijacking my thread. Of course when I do it I am a troll but when you guys do it you are "moderating" even there though are only one of them on here.
Everyone is so self riteious! I love how i get accused of following steve around. That may be true. So I started my own thread. MY OWN THREAD asking Steve. Not asking anyone else here.
So what does that make all you otehrs in here giving me crap? Yep taht makes you trolls. Thanks trolls.
So let me ask steve something.
Steve, you already spent hours on the phone with holley and talked to them and talked to the guys at advance. Why should I have to spend hours on the phone with holley when I can just come on here and ask you what jets you are running?
Your kit apparently works as you said you went through a whole bottle in one night. So it seems to me the kit is at a safe amount. I want to hook up a safe amount on chris' duke so I thougth I would ask you since you already did it.
So if someone else asked this question would you answer them or tell them to buzz off as well. Do you not want to share this info with the forum? Why is this info such a big secret?
Thanks
SH
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04:07 PM
Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Shaun.. Are you saying that you believe Steve is not lying about his nitrous, even though you have posted in several threads in the past few days saying he is lying? If that is what you are saying then I will apologize and leave Steve to answer you (yet again, that he didn't do the work and doesn't know). And if all this is true, then thankfully, there will be no more harassing Steve about being a liar. Obviously others thought this was just another post insinuating that too because they came in and backed you up as usual....
The story of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind...
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I don't need your smart ass PMs either, Punisher boy... Anything I have to say to you can be said in the open. And no, I am still not intimidated by you...
As I said, if you really are asking Steve for help (after calling him a liar no less than 3 times in the past few days) then I will apologize... I think it is just that you don't like be called on this game you are playing...
But I guess since you don't have a response, and apparently don't like my 'boy who cried wolf' analogy, you had to resort to PMing me and calling me names.. Imagine my surprise....
Answer the question... Are you admitting that Steve is not lying and really asking for his help or is this another game? It can't be both. I have my apology ready if need be...
quit trying to hijack this thread songman. quit trolling in my thread. I am askign steve.
And show me the threads in the "last few days" where I called steve a "liar" Start your own thread in OT and post the links. Stop trying to hijack and troll in this one. I want to see where I actually said "liar" in posts within the last few days.
Look, Steve if you dont' know what jets you are runnign then say you dont' know. But I dont' understand why I have to sit on hold with holley burning up my daytime minutes when you have the answer right there in front of you. The whole forum can benefit from you posting them, not just me. What you dont' like to share info with the forum?
THanks
SH
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04:30 PM
Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I'll say the same thing I said in response to your 3rd PM to me... So you are admitting that Steve is not a liar and your attacks on him have been unfounded?
Doesn't feel good to have someone do to you what you have been doing to him, does it? And I only did this in one thread.. You followed him around...
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the same people get involved in these type of threads. There seems to be one person who jumps in on everyone of them and keeps posting over and over. I have noticed that person in many threads and seems to keep the threads open for come backs. Not really forsure why the person thinks he has to get in on every thread and keep it opened up for replies but I guess he is bored. Just wondering if anyone else noticed this but maybe its just me.
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the same people get involved in these type of threads. There seems to be one person who jumps in on everyone of them and keeps posting over and over. I have noticed that person in many threads and seems to keep the threads open for come backs. Not really forsure why the person thinks he has to get in on every thread and keep it opened up for replies but I guess he is bored. Just wondering if anyone else noticed this but maybe its just me.
I'll assume you are talking about me since you and I had a problem over you calling everyone who uses West Coast Fiero 'Rich Pricks'... I've already stated my reasons for being in this thread.
I think this thread was started as just another way to slam Steve and continue the assault on him because they think he is lying about his nitrous. I still can't figure why they would seriously ask someone about nitrous who they are constantly slamming for lying about it...
BUT... As I've said, I'll gladly apologize to Shaun publicly, just as soon as he admits that Steve must not be lying or he wouldn't be asking for his advice... We are discussing this very thing in PM right now.
And thanks for bumping the thread since that is what you are accusing me of.
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p8ntman442 Member
Posts: 1747 From: portsmouth RI Registered: Sep 2003
Originally posted by Fiero5: Exactly. That is also why in another thread when another member asked about installing NOS I suggested they consider contacting the manufacturer and also a local store like we did that has experience with NOS. Seeing pretty installed pictures and even detailed advice on the net is all well and good, but each car, engine, person and situation can be totally different and so who better to be able to help with specific knowledgeable info then the people who manufacturer it and those who sell and install it
Can we cut the crap here. Everyone on this forum shares information on what and how they have done things to their Fiero. If you have already contacted the manufacturer and received advice as to what the best application is for the duke why can you not share that with the rest of us. If someone installs a grand am brake upgrade on there car and a member asks about the details about the swap they don't say "Call Pontiac and ask them". And when someone installs a CRX intake on there car and a member asks about the details about it they don't say "Call Honda and ask them". The whole premise of this forum is to share information about our cars. If you do not want to share the information because you dislike one of the people asking the question than I would think that is pathetic on your part. Would it help if someone else asked the question?
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cooguyfish Member
Posts: 2658 From: Hamilton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Originally posted by Fiero5: I guess some on PFF have nothing better to do than keep dragging back up these old dead and buried out of context crap going.
Steve
No, my point is, you act like you're all high and mighty and you never start anything Blah, blah, blah. and they may have been taken out of context but i did put links to them all so shhhh....
The point is, you're full of crap. in all those texts you say a stock four cyl, with a good tune-up, can run with the six's... NOW you say
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Originally posted by Fiero5: I said with some mods you can get one up to where it can perform close to one, I never said it could outperform one.
Now, i have also been here a while, since the begining of '02 to be exact. I've seen how you act, and now how most people act, and while you may belive that those were taken out of context I REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE ORGINIALLY POSTED!!!! so it's not like i'm making crap up here. and i also remember you fighting that those 4 beaters could hit 0-60 STOCK in 7 or less seconds. (i actually remember one where you swore you could do it in 6.5's but i couldn't find that thread)
I support a Free forum here. So don't act like you're mister perfect here.
and if you're so offended by my bringing all that back up, i'll take it down. not a problem, BUT, i still think you are full of it.
i also noticed in almost every archived thread i could find with you in it, you've gone back and edited all your post's and took out everything you said... any reason for that??? trying to hide something??? or do you know that we know you're full of it???
stop the BSing, and answer the freaking question.
-Fish
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Hartz Member
Posts: 1511 From: Plymouth, MI USA Registered: Jul 99
True, but saying that people use N2O because they can't build a real engine is just plain IMHO...
Um, yeah. What he said above. Nothing wrong with a little giggle juice.
Now that I have that over with, it occurs to me that regardless of who is trolling who, and who's being a PITA, and who is lying, and who is blindly sticking up for whom...
...this whole thing would go away if Steve would just answer the freaking question.
So is being self-rightous worth it? Is Steve feeling nice and smug about the whole thing? Does he enjoy getting to play the pity card each time he's harassed?
Everybody who didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday knows Shaun is baiting Steve. Of COURSE he is. But he'll stop with one reply from Steve, who refuses to do it for some selfish reason. So who's worse?
Now let's get back to arguing about that nitrous...
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Unsafe At Any Speed Member
Posts: 2299 From: Cheyenne, WY Registered: Feb 2003
such a great post i want to make sure it doesn't get deleted................................
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Originally posted by cooguyfish:
and people wonder why Fiero5 is vebally raped from time to time. These are a few of my favorites that i dug up from the Archives since i'm such a horrible person and all. And you can also see how well he treats people like SH (shaun41178) and such. that and he claims wild things and DOES NOT back them up...
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20010924-1-007141-2.html “For very little money, you can get a 4 banger to perform so close to a V6, the only difference is what the engine looks like when you open the rear deck lid. My Fiero5 can keep up with the best of 'em. I even have a few V6 owners that can verify it first hand.”
“Hmmm, it might help if you used a good running iron duke for comparison maybe? Of the 4 cyl ones we have, they are all in excellent shape, are well maintained and so they perform similar to any stock V6.”
“The 4 cyl has no power? I don't think so. We just tested my 85 2M4 that has over 150,000 miles on it, but has been well maintained. We did 0-60 in just 8 seconds, and that was with a passenger ”
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20020118-1-009126-3.html “My Fiero5 is also a stock 4 banger, and it easily does 120MPH plus and can stick to the a$$ of any stock GT out there. Fiero1 and Fiero9 are right up there also. This isn't my opinion, it is the facts that can and has been backed up by other Fiero owners many times.”
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030204-1-023175.html “Well, lets see. As many of you know I happen to have a "few" 4 bangers, and I have pushed a few them to some pretty impressive speeds. I have had a few of them with the 120 speedo pegged, so based on others I was racing or following or what have you, so as for top end they have been up around 130 to 135mph”
I really like this next story
“Another time I played with a Viper (or more likely he played with me) as we were flying North on the highway. He was obviously casually cruising for a Viper but I was really pushing Fiero5 to stay with him and actually passed him at a guess of about 130mph or so. He smiled and waved to us as we passed which was kinda cool. He isn't a jerk or anything as he owns a local business near us and I saw him sometime after and he said "We were buzzing along at about 135". My "Fiero1", a white '84 SE 4 speed has been in the 100mph range as I stayed with a friends beefy '79 Trans Am one time.” “The 4 speeds are tough on high end as they are geared so low. As for off the line, the best time I have done to date in a 4 banger is a 7 second 0-60 in "Fiero8", a silver '85 5 speed. That thing is quick!”
Can we cut the crap here. Everyone on this forum shares information on what and how they have done things to their Fiero. If you have already contacted the manufacturer and received advice as to what the best application is for the duke why can you not share that with the rest of us. If someone installs a grand am brake upgrade on there car and a member asks about the details about the swap they don't say "Call Pontiac and ask them". And when someone installs a CRX intake on there car and a member asks about the details about it they don't say "Call Honda and ask them". The whole premise of this forum is to share information about our cars. If you do not want to share the information because you dislike one of the people asking the question than I would think that is pathetic on your part. Would it help if someone else asked the question?
couldn't agree more. he won't share because he knows another one of his stories will turn into if he reveals the details of his flawed nitrous setup.
Originally posted by Songman: As I have already pointed out, the pictures above prove that the car has nitrous as fiero5 has said. Your buddy is always calling him a liar and has been proven wrong. Why can't you two just admit that you are wrong in your attacks and quit trying to switch it off onto another subject.
maybe shaun's trying to save him some money instead of blowing nitrous into the air?
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vwaltdog Member
Posts: 418 From: Tewksbury, MA Registered: Nov 2002
Good going Steve for seeing through the punisher's Bull. I've seen the posts from him and from what I can tell all he wants to do is F with people. BTW I can see this going to the trashcan in 3.........
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cooguyfish Member
Posts: 2658 From: Hamilton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2002
You know, i've never understood why so many people rag on the Punisher (SH). all he does it rag on people who BS, do we want BS here? i don't. sure he trolls and does get a little out of control at times, but for the most part he only gives people a hard time who are ing.
i still support a free environment here, and that's what shaun works for. so lets all hate him (yes i do realize he can get carried away, but still).
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08:15 PM
Fiero5 Member
Posts: 8882 From: Arecibo, PR Registered: Jun 2000
Wow Fish, do you get any sleep at night or do you stay awake all night worrying about if any of what I said a year ago is full of it or not?
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Originally posted by cooguyfish: The point is, you're full of crap. in all those texts you say a stock four cyl, with a good tune-up, can run with the six's... NOW you say
Wow, guess you can't actually read then, especially your very own typing. Here, I will quote YOUR own words from a few posts earlier in this very post:
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Originally posted by cooguyfish:
“For very little money, you can get a 4 banger to perform so close to a V6,
-Fish
If your going to try and twist and change what someone said, you might not want to quote it the right way and then quote it the wrong way in the same freakin' thread. Obviously you must be bored or something and just want to try and keep this stirred up. Sorry, I am not going to keep going point for point on every silly little new post you feel the need to type.
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08:16 PM
fieroparts.com Member
Posts: 4831 From: Maine 207-934-1969 Registered: Jun 2000
couldn't agree more. he won't share because he knows another one of his stories will turn into if he reveals the details of his flawed nitrous setup.
What some of you must not realize is that I did answer shaun awhile back. I gave him all the info I knew. Again, we called Holley and then they coordinated with the guy at advanced. I didn't have detailed conversations where they told me everything and then I became the most knowledgeable nitrous guy on the planet. First Shaun just wanted to see where the nozzle was mounted. I stated that it was clearly shown in pics on our cardomain web site. Well, that wasn't good enough. Then he wanted to know the jet size, then he attacked me because I was using a dry and not wet kit, blah blah blah. It never ends with Shaun, or either of these two. He doesn't really want to know this and he won't stop even if I do answer because he didn't the last 4 times it was given out. He attacks people on the forum, in PM's and in e-mail. Songmans getting to see some of that now as well. He didn't answer any of the Nitrous questions in that thread I posted earlier, just insults and silly photoshopped pics as usual. And some still say he is a valued member and turn around and slam me? Whatever.
margaritaz, of all people who should not talk smack. I remember just the other day you whining for help because your bar was flashing after pissing off way too many people. You always seem to jump on the bash bandwagon though no matter who it is that is doing the bashing. I remember when greg came on and quickly pissed off just about every single forum member that was on in about one day and got deservidly banned. Funny how the only one joining him in the bashing before he got banned was...yup.. you guessed it..margaritaz. Now we get to see you begging waa waa please help me I'm going to be banned and I don't deserve it. Well, try and not let the door hit your a$$ on the way out.
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08:35 PM
cooguyfish Member
Posts: 2658 From: Hamilton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2002
I may have quoted you saying that, but i still remember when you said your STOCK 4 cyl could do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. I WISH i could find that thread. and you know what, you are right, i did quote you saying that a little modification can get you there, but you've also said before stock 4 beaters can do it.
it's not that i have anything against 4 cyl's, or any engine in particular, i have a problem with people who say there car can do this or that when it really can't, or there not quite telling the whole story.
and yes, i do have a serious problem with people who BS on here, if i came on here saying a beat a corvette with my stock GT, you don't think people would jump down my throat?
but for whatever reason, it's ok for you to say that your stock 90 horse 130 ftlbs 4 beater can take any V6 sure why not that's very factual.
but i tell you what, i've said my piece, and i'll be the one to say, i'm done giving you a hard time, and i'll leave you alone from now on.
which you can quote me on that
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