quote Originally posted by cooguyfish: but for whatever reason, it's ok for you to say that your stock 90 horse 130 ftlbs 4 beater can take any V6 sure why not that's very factual.

But see, I NEVER said that. I never saId a 4 beater can take any V6. I have V6 Fieros as well and I know that would not be true. I said that with some money you can make a 4 banger perform similar to a V6.
Here you are coming into this thread and start accusing me of BS and yet here we all are now reading these BS statements by you that I obviously never said.

quote but i tell you what, i've said my piece, and i'll be the one to say, i'm done giving you a hard time, and i'll leave you alone from now on. which you can quote me on that

OK. you've said your piece so now you say you will stop, that is now that you have stirred up the pot with stretching a few things and also saying I said things that I actually never said.

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: OK. you've said your piece so now you say you will stop, that is now that you have stirred up the pot with stretching a few things and also saying I said things that I actually never said.

Umm, I don't know....I went back and read some of those posts and it does not sound like he is stretching any of the truth. Maybe you need to go back and re-read some of your posts to make sure you know which story you are using at this particular time.
best of luck with that

quote Originally posted by cooguyfish: I may have quoted you saying that, but i still remember when you said your STOCK 4 cyl could do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. I WISH i could find that thread. and you know what, you are right, i did quote you saying that a little modification can get you there, but you've also said before stock 4 beaters can do it.

Let me help out a bit here......

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20040223-1-034579.html

This is another example of fine workmanship.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20040223-1-035157.html

From the link above....

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: If we have to replace the whole engine than we may go that route and replace it with a better performing engine, but if all it needs right now is a head then that would be the fastest and cheapest route for the time being. If this fixes the problem, then going thru the whole ordeal of replacing it with a stock V6 doesn't make much since (IMO), plus it won't give us much benefits as this 4 cyl engine performs almost as well (and better than some) stock V6 engines anyway. If I want to get some really impressive looks and performanceto back it up I would rather go with at least a beefed up Quad 4 or even a 3800 SC or a N*. Steve

Words mean things, and when we spread lies, they come back to bite us when we least expect it.

Enjoy, and have a nice evening.

Mark

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: But see, I NEVER said that. I never saId a 4 beater can take any V6. I have V6 Fieros as well and I know that would not be true. I said that with some money you can make a 4 banger perform similar to a V6.

Gee, that's strange i could of swore i copied and pasted these two statements out of the two threads i mentioned on the last page. o crap, i did.

you know what else i notice, the only thing you can do is hurl insults at people, about how i have no life, and that i can't sleep because of that, and that i can't read. blah blah blah

but on the other hand, i take things you say, and use them against you. and you have no comeback, that's fun. THEN i said i'd leave you alone, and you just couldn't leave it. so here i am PROVING you WRONG AGAIN.

quote Originally posted by cooguyfish: Hmmm, it might help if you used a good running iron duke for comparison maybe? Of the 4 cyl ones we have, they are all in excellent shape, are well maintained and so they perform similar to any stock V6. My Fiero5 is also a stock 4 banger, and it easily does 120MPH plus and can stick to the a$$ of any stock GT out there.

yes, i said ^ this, just one page ago. and i even have the links there for you too.

so, here i am proving the point that you lie, you say you never said it, and i show you the proof you did. what's next, i'm making things up, and i really have no life, no car, i'm 14, and no one likes me?? is that what you're going to say???

this is the part where i'd normally throw an insult at you, however, i'm going to exercise my maturity here and not do it. that'd be dropping down to your level, and i can't have that.

and i say again, leave me alone after this, don't throw your meaningless insults at me, and i'll let you go.

-Fish

quote Originally posted by Firefox:

Wahoo! LOL I was wondering when Mark the uptight guy would finally show up and join in. What a surprise

Trash can in....1

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: Wahoo! LOL I was wondering when Mark the uptight guy would finally show up and join in. What a surprise

I didn't need to show up until someone needed a link to one of the many " Fiero5 the A**wipe " threads that I have stored away.

They are taking care of you nicely.

Mark the nice guy

quote Originally posted by Firefox: If we have to replace the whole engine than we may go that route and replace it with a better performing engine, but if all it needs right now is a head then that would be the fastest and cheapest route for the time being. If this fixes the problem, then going thru the whole ordeal of replacing it with a stock V6 doesn't make much since (IMO), plus it won't give us much benefits as this 4 cyl engine performs almost as well (and better than some) stock V6 engines anyway. If I want to get some really impressive looks and performanceto back it up I would rather go with at least a beefed up Quad 4 or even a 3800 SC or a N*. Steve

Fish, thats it? This quote is the one you got all wet and fuzzy over?
If thats your nail in my coffin then quick, try and bury me now as that is absolutely true. Especially about the quad 4 and N* but I guess you conveniently ignored that part.
"Better than some" means just that, some. Not many, not a lot and not all, just some. I bet we will see someone pick apart what "some" means now Unless of course you and your new best friend the uptight guy now want us all to believe that every single engine out there runs equal to another, no matter the usage, wear and tear, mileage, age, etc? I hardly think so and I doubt anyone else is going to fall for that either.
Go read what Songman said earlier if you don't want to believe me. He knows what I said is true as well.

Trash can...T Minus...

quote Originally posted by Firefox: Posted tonight, 10-20-2004 Wow.....sounds like a lie to me. " I NEVER said that....." , but you did. Wiggle out of this one, Steve. No positive rating for you, tonight. We're waiting.

You know, i promised not to give him anymore grief about this, which i'll honor. but i thought that i was the only one that thought this about him. i am very surprised more people didn't get mad at me... and i'm also not very offended by it.

i've also added a line to my sig just for things like this

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AIM= Fish100770
Supporter of a :bs: free forum, everyone do there part ;)

My cardomain site: cardomain.com/memberpage/702872

Well, I am getting a lot of "nice" members telling me to stop responding and replying because I am falling into the same trap... again set by some as we are seeing here. I have allready replied more than I should and it is all just a rehash of the same old crap from before. Sooo... those that want to try and stir up stuff again with me, you can try and do it without me.
BTW: Mark the stalker, looks like a few have rated you not so nicely lately? You still want my son his car burned to the ground? I'm sure now you will ask people to rate me badly as that is all you have left.
Have fun.

[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 10-20-2004).]

quote Originally posted by cooguyfish: You know, i promised not to give him anymore grief about this, which i'll honor. but i thought that i was the only one that thought this about him. i am very surprised more people didn't get mad at me... and i'm also not very offended by it. i've also added a line to my sig just for things like this

That's ok. He's had his own words thrown back in his face and of course still denies it like a baby. He has no respect. Many members here feel the same as you and don't put up with his bullsh*t. I just wanted to offer that thread for you.

I'm not going to post in this thread anymore as he's already had his a** handed to him again.

For the rest of you, do what you like. You're seeing the real Steve Kelley.

Have a nice night.

Mark

[This message has been edited by Firefox (edited 10-20-2004).]

I'm going to post one last time in this thread and then I am done with it...

I've tried to be clear on this and I want to make sure I am... I don't know anything about fiero5. And I only know Punisher from seeing his posts on the forum. I am not for or against either one of them. My posts in this thread have come in response to seeing Punisher make several posts lately insinuating that fiero5 is a liar, and then coming here and starting this thread. He now says it is a serious question and not just baiting fiero5. Whether or not I believe him is irrelevent.

I told Shaun in numerous PMs that I was willing to apologize to him if he was willing to apologize to fiero5 for trolling him. I never got a response. I also told him that I really didn't blame fiero5 for not answering his question in this case. I know I wouldn't go out of my way to help someone who constantly attacked me. I also told him that fiero5 had said several times that he didn't build the car and didn't know the information. Everyone seems to be down on fiero5 for withholding info that he says he doesn't know.

Again.. I am not for or against either of these guys and don't know either of them. Apparently they both have their share of problems and enemies here. Have have never had any contact with fiero5, even through this thread. As I said, I have had several with Shaun. But apparently, they came to no avail.

I hope both of these guys can get through whatever it is that makes them both seem abrasive to others on the forum. This used to be a friendly place... Now, it is just getting close to being a waste of time. Good luck to both of you.

Here is the thing songman. he talked to Holley. he said they told him what jets to run.

SO he does know what jets are in it. And lets say he doesnt' know right this instant. its not hard to go out and check them now is it? He installed the jets so he should know what size are in there.

Would he tell someone else what jets he is running if this other person asked? Cause it seems to me that there are several people on this board besides me that wants to know. So its not just me. By him not answering he is denying everyone else here info that he already has about a duke nitrous setup.

So once again, Steve Kelley, what size nitrous jets are you running in your duke nitrous setup?

if you dont' know then just say you dont' know. its plain as that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks

SH

After reading this thread out of curiousity, I would have to agree that Songman has made some very accurate assumptions about the purpose of this thread. If the "All Knowing" Punisher really needed the information, why was Fiero5 targeted in the Topic Statement ? Wouldn't it been better to name the Topic " Need nitrous jet size information for a Duke ? " (edit) That way, it would address everyone on the Forum who either has done nitrous to a Duke or gather sufficient information. The thread body text could have explained proposed engine setup and size shot in question. Frankly, if it was a serious question, it could have been handled in pm message to Fiero5.

Sure reads like a Troll's thread to me, just my opinion. To top it off, you have 2 Clowns using the same Username like Jecky and Hide.

[This message has been edited by California Kid (edited 10-21-2004).]

Just do what I did. Little punisher sent me a PM trying to be the big bad man. So I just added him to my Ignore list.
Too bad there isn't one for the main discussion threads.

quote Originally posted by California Kid: Wouldn't it been better to name the Topic " Need nitrous jet size information for a Duke ? " (edit) That way, it would address everyone on the Forum who either has done nitrous to a Duke or gather sufficient information.

Hey thats a good idea.

Since this thread has been hijacked by a bunch of trolls I am going to start another one in hopes that someone that has installed a nitrous setup on a duke succesfully can answer. Thanks for the idea.

SH