OK, getting back on topic. Who is making a kit and what is your progress? Inquiring minds really want to know. From what I've seen so far I like the WMac version the best but in it's first series with the lights being at the same height. On kits, prices with and without lights would be nice.

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I'm not making a kit, I'm having Aus build one for me out of carbon fiber. Totally DOT-legal, direct replacement for the factory light bucket, but half the height.

There was some mixup with the first set of Hella lights he got, which turned out to be the wrong ones... so there was a bit of a delay in the project.. but he's on the right track now.

pics will be posted the minute they're available, I promise.

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steve@digitalfusion.on.ca
"Whoever said money can't buy happiness.. didn't have much of an imagination." - Steve King, 1997

so are u selling it as a kit or is aus going to sell it on his wed page?cant wait to see this!!

WMac -

Maybe if you could post a schematic of your template with the dimensions, we could all just make our own buckets. I would appreciate it at least.

Aus will be selling them on his website, and I am working on a deal to let me sell them as well.

you guys know AusFiero's work, these lights are going to be QUALITY.

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steve@digitalfusion.on.ca
"Whoever said money can't buy happiness.. didn't have much of an imagination." - Steve King, 1997

Ill scan them into a format That can be posted

HOWEVER: Keep in mind that the template was NOT the final outcome, There were countless hours of ajusting and reworking to get them perfect.

1. I will NOT be making a kit, As this is just a hobby for me,

2. I know that AUS will be, and I dont think It would be fair to AUS beings this is what he does

3. Im up to my ears with the 3.8 swap thats almost ready to install.

4. I know that AUS will be, and I dont think It would be fair to AUS beings this is what he does

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[This message has been edited by WMac (edited 03-02-2003).]

Just keeping this one at the top

This may be slightly off topic but I have been looking hard at an alternative to the pop up lights. I have a spare hood and front facia that I will be using for a vented hood project so I am willing to try other ideas as long as the original mechanisms are preserved and can be remounted.

Here is my idea, can anyone remember the Greenwood racing Corvettes of the 1970s? They used clear plastic "bubbles" molded to cover fixed headlights, I was wondering if anyone has come up with something like this?

Ira

quote Originally posted by Monza76: Here is my idea, can anyone remember the Greenwood racing Corvettes of the 1970s? They used clear plastic "bubbles" molded to cover fixed headlights, I was wondering if anyone has come up with something like this? Ira

A while ago someone did something simular but they weren't bubbles. The guy cut out around the hood where the light is and attached the lite to the car so it doesn't come up when u open the hood and then put some flat lexan over it. Looked pretty good IMO.

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Aus, do you have a rough idea of how much a kit would cost?

I'd like a set of carbon fiber ones... How much will that run?

Greg

quote Originally posted by WMac: Ill scan them into a format That can be posted

You still going to do this? I am wanting to get started on making me a set and I really would appreciate the head start.

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it shouldent be that much right? it's only the retainers that need to be customized...

i cant wait for this to be done, got any new info yet?

those headlights look fugging gorgeous... if anybody can offer a kit like that for around $300 i'd buy.
-raz.

FWIW, I paid for the first Aus light kit umm... 3 months ago now. it's still in development...

it is coming... just taking a while.

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steve@digitalfusion.on.ca
"Whoever said money can't buy happiness.. didn't have much of an imagination." - Steve King, 1997

ttt

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Christian Thomas
87 Pontiac Fiero GT Maroon/Silver

so how much did u pay darklord?for the kit

I'm sold! Please let me know when these are ready to ship. At the same time i'll pick up some stage 2 scoops.
~Mike
EVLGT@hotmail.com

any news on this or is everybody gonna wait for everybody else to do the kit ?

BUMP

I'm still waiting for Aus to finish my kit....

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steve@digitalfusion.on.ca
"Whoever said money can't buy happiness.. didn't have much of an imagination." - Steve King, 1997

Well, looks like if u want anything done around here, it's time to sweep aside the bullsh*t and do ourselves ..... Looks like your gonna B waiting a looong time Dark, but I'll let you know what I come up with ....

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Jim is a good friend of mine, I'm expecting the lights soon.. he's been waiting for a long time for the lights to arrive from Hella, for some reason things that are mailed to australia from the usa take an unreasonably long time to arrive.

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steve@digitalfusion.on.ca
"Whoever said money can't buy happiness.. didn't have much of an imagination." - Steve King, 1997

One of my favorite peeves is people who make promises then let you flat, and the auto world seems to have more than its share of those people. I'm trying hard to get my car finished, but keep running into people-related snags. I had a post asking for mechanics in LA, got about 5 replies that people were interested in doing the work, then I e-mailed contact info to them all (e-mail was the only info I had) and only 1 got back with me ?! If I do these headlights I wanna do them B4 I do the paint job, but won't let empty promises hold me up. Seems like the orginal poster not posting the template was pretty lame - get everybody excited then walk away. Hope your boy comes through for you...

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Yes I am still waiting for lights from Hella. some packages to come this way have been 4 months.
Paul it seems you don't appreciate the time and money people put into projects to bring new items onto the market. By all means make them yourself and you will then appreciate the work involved in anything new.
Personally I have poured thousands of dollars into new products for the Fiero. I am yet to make a return when all expenses and consideration.
Good things come to those who wait.

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I'm sure that Aus is very concerned about not having a light kit for you to buy before you paint your car. He only has 2 businesses to run, a family, his own projects.....

Development takes a lot of time. How many problems have you read about on this forum alone with people rushing inferior product to the market?

Why should Wmac provide you with the template? Its his work, he was thinking about producing it as a kit. I think you have enough pictures to replicate one yourself. Oh, btw, can you produce that kit before I paint my car?

This post started in December 2002! When I saw it a few days ago, it looked like one of many where people have sparked a lot of interest, then let everybody down (and still may end up that way).

Aus - you're right - I can't appreciate a 4 month wait for stuff, especially since a few guys have ordered and received their lamps months ago AND quoted their sources that appeared to stock them on the shelf. i guess I also can't appreciate the effort involved to reproduce something when WMAC seems to have already done the hard part. Forget the lamps for now - the key part to some of us is the housing, and seems like you/WMAC could have already sold half-dozen pair to people in this post if you wanted - me included. Seems like that would have gained you a lot of loyal admirers AND some $$, while others will wait and STIll buy your full kit.

Grid - you obviously just want to get nasty, because you haven't read all the previous posts on this thread NOR expressed an interest in getting these lights, NOR tried to build something like this without dimensions. Maybe a moose stood you up on a blind date or something. But let me recap for you:
Dec. 29, 2002: WMAC buys the lamps from local distributor
Dec. 30, 2002 - Bwayne posts a source in PA
Dec. 30, 2002 - WMAC is going to talk to dist. about bulk buy
Jan. 02, 2003 - Aus apparently told Dark he was gonna offer the kit (Let's see Jan 5 to May 5 = 4 months)
Mar. 2, 2003 - Glane hits the nail on the head when he asks WMAC for the template with dimensions (yesss !)
Mar. 02, 2003 - WMAC says he will scan into a format that could be posted and then never does.

I gotta say that I give A LOT of credit to WMAC for developing this headlight conversion - But Im feeling like my prom date just gave me a big wet kiss then walked in the house and locked the door! Posting a template with dimensions (in addition to the pics already here) would have provided the right amount of info to those of us who wanted to try this on our own. Dimensions would prevent a LOT of trial an error needed to make sure the headlights still move correctly without hitting anything. Granted, anyone could still do this, and nobody "owes" anybody anything (except Aus owes Dark a kit, I guess). I think that WMAC is doing us a dis-service by with-holding because AUS says he's gonna make a kit someday and the dimensions might hurt that business op (real or imagined). BUT THAT IS HIS CHOICE AND I SAY THANKS TO WMAC FOR EVERYTHING UP TO THIS POINT.

Hey, I thought i was starting to smell bullsh*t here, but I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if this thing comes through. I just wanna get my car domne with cool headlights, NOT create bad feelings...

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PaulJK, since when do you think you have the right to tell everyone they should follow through with what they said they would do? Darklord doesn't seem to have a big problem waiting for Aus to get it finished, so why do you? If you want a kit so bad, make one.
And maybe WMac forgot doing what he said he would. It's not like he has to do it. I haven't seen him post much lately, so it's very possible that he just hasn't thought of it. If someone wanted to know, they could just email him. How hard is that?

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quote Originally posted by PaulJK: This post started in December 2002! When I saw it a few days ago, it looked like one of many where people have sparked a lot of interest, then let everybody down (and still may end that way). Aus - you're right - I can't appreciate a 4 month wait for stuff, especially since a few guys have ordered and received their lamps months ago AND quoted their sources that appeared to stock them on the shelf. Grid - you obviously just want to get nasty, because you haven't read all the previous posts on this thread NOR expressed an interest in getting these lights. But let me recap for you: Dec. 29, 2002: WMAC talks to local distributor Dec. 30, 2002 - Bwayne posts a source in PA Dec. 30, 2002 - WMAC talks to dist. about bulk buy Jan. 02, 2003 - Aus apparently told Dark he was gonna offer the kit (Let's see Jan 5 to May 7 = 4 months) Mar. 2, 2003 - Glane hits the nail on the head when he asks WMAC for the template with dimensions (yesss !) Mar. 02, 2003 - WMAC says he will scan into a format that could be posted and then never does. [This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 05-07-2003).]

You are right, I have not read this thread with the detail that I would if I wanted to purchase a kit like this. However, I didn't appreciate your tone in demanding a product. If you can't wait for a product to be made, and made well from someone that has a lot of products that he is working on, then make it yourself. Sorry if I came off as rude to you, but you came off the same way.

No hard feelings guys ....

Grid - I'm thinking that I'm not as talented as WMAC, so if it took HIM 22 hours, I better wait for the dimensions - especially since my kit is not the same kit as his NOR is it completely stock fiero.
Hey, I have 2 new factory sealed beams I'll gladly GIVE away if I can get this parabolic conversion done soon. I think it would also help Bcause my driver's headlight door "flaps up" when i go too fast and the air catches under it. Maybe the lower profile would keep the air from going underneath.

If those things didn't look SOOOOO good, I'd just leave my rectangular ones there.

[This message has been edited by PaulJK (edited 05-08-2003).]

This conversion has nothing to do with painting your car. The closest these headlights get to your paint is to push the headlight door up from the inside just like the stock headlights operate.

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Bill Levin

Hey Bill...

Long time no see!

Sold the Lotus so no track time this year except maybe in the beasty 3.4L TDC

Of course, you are still invited to ride along on the Rally course!

Talk to you soon?

DKOV -

My kit's front end comes up like a late model corvette. when i have the paint done, im having them paint the underside of the hood and the fiero chassis black. the headlights will be included in this mix. I have to re-do the headlight doors (that attach to the hood piece) which will probably effect the headlight buckets.

I'm wondering if i could just chop the top 3 inches off the top of each factory headlight bucket and put a flat piece of metal across the factory headlight hole. Then mount the Hella lamps in the flat piece. Does that sound too easy ?

I sometimes wish I could produce things faster too but sometimes things just don't go as planned. More development funds would certainly speed things up but considering next week I am paying the bank $13,300 (had to up my mortgage to a hard to pay level to do so) to pay back the balance of $18,000 I was frauded out of my online store, more funds just isn't going to happen fast.
I planned to have 4 new products ready for Carlisle but only average sales of existing items and the above problem have killed that idea big time.
But on the upside things are coming together and a new batch of products will come out at once in the not to distant future.

quote Originally posted by AusFiero: I sometimes wish I could produce things faster too but sometimes things just don't go as planned. More development funds would certainly speed things up but considering next week I am paying the bank $13,300 (had to up my mortgage to a hard to pay level to do so) to pay back the balance of $18,000 I was frauded out of my online store, more funds just isn't going to happen fast. I planned to have 4 new products ready for Carlisle but only average sales of existing items and the above problem have killed that idea big time. But on the upside things are coming together and a new batch of products will come out at once in the not to distant future.

Take your time Aus...you don't owe anything to anybody. Good Luck with it all

Hopefully everything works out for you!

Take care!

Steve-O

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quote Originally posted by DKOV: Hey Bill... Long time no see! Sold the Lotus so no track time this year except maybe in the beasty 3.4L TDC Of course, you are still invited to ride along on the Rally course! Talk to you soon? DKOV -

I need to come up and see how your project(s) are going. I hope to get to the track soon, but local events, a couple of road trips and the trip to the 20th will delay track time until August and September. I owe you a ride. Bring your helmet!

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Bill Levin

"Steve-O" - you should read the whole thread before you try to get nasty (skip the big words if you have to) - Aus owes Dark a kit. And speak 4 yourself, because there are MANY people who were genuinely interested here (unlike you)...

quote Originally posted by PaulJK: "Steve-O" - you should read the whole thread before you try to get nasty (skip the big words if you have to) - Aus owes Dark a kit. And speak 4 yourself, because there are MANY people who were genuinely interested here (unlike you)...

Actually I don't "owe" Darklord a kit. Steve (Darklord) graciously helped with development by supplying the funds to purchase a set of lights. I then paid $100 local $s shipping. Steve in exchange gets a free mounting and trims kit and his lights when I have finished with them. I don't see that as owe when it is more joint funding on a new project. Darklord is a friend of mine and it is only me and him who know our full arrangements.

I don't owe anybody a time frame on this project. If your so keen to have a light kit go to The Fiero Shop California and buy one of their $700 light kits.

quote Originally posted by AusFiero: Actually I don't "owe" Darklord a kit. Steve (Darklord) graciously helped with development by supplying the funds to purchase a set of lights. I then paid $100 local $s shipping. Steve in exchange gets a free mounting and trims kit and his lights when I have finished with them. I don't see that as owe when it is more joint funding on a new project. Darklord is a friend of mine and it is only me and him who know our full arrangements. I don't owe anybody a time frame on this project. If your so keen to have a light kit go to The Fiero Shop California and buy one of their $700 light kits.

Thank you for finally making this clear Aus; I knew there had to be more to the story that frankly just wasn't anybody's business but yours and Darklord's. I get frustrated when people push for some project to get finished as if the developer is slacking off...I don't think many people can really appreciate the time that goes into good quality products. You've obviously spent countless hours on your products, and I think it's all worth the wait! Keep up the good work, I'm excited to see what you come up with.

Bryce
88 GT