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So what changes *do* you wish to see? by Cliff Pennock
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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback 86Send a Private Message to Fastback 86Direct Link to This Post
I like the idea of splitting the Tech into Engines, Body, Suspension, Interior. Thats all the split you need, cause pretty much everything falls into one of those categories.

I also like the idea of a reason for a rating being required, and for it to be visible to the person, but not who submitted the rating. I don't care WHO rated me negative, but I'd like to know why. If 10 people rate me negatively for the same reason, I'll know what I'm doing that people don't like and I can try to avoid acting like that. Knowing that several people aren't happy with me doesn't tell me anything more than that several people are unhappy with me. If I knew why they were unhappy, I could do something about it.

Lastly, maybe some of the buttons and links could be made bigger or bolder? Or maybe sub headings under the links that say what they are. New people aren't going to know that the Ogre's Cave is the place to go for info. And a lot of people just seem to miss the Search or Ogre's Cave or whatever link or button. I have 20/20 eyesight and some of the Fonts on the forum are almost too small to make out clearly.

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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Russ544Send a Private Message to Russ544Direct Link to This Post
This is an excellent site just the way it is, but it might be time to include a "restoration" section.
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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mini z CrazySend a Private Message to Mini z CrazyDirect Link to This Post
id like to see and engine swap section. And in it it would be sub-divided into the the various swaps. ie.... 4.9, SBC, 3800 NA + SC + turbo, 2.8-3.4 pushrod, and 3.4 Dohc.


Just my 2 cents.

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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierofreak00Send a Private Message to Fierofreak00Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by sqoach:


Cliff already has this taken care of. When you're in the "reply window," there is another smaller window below that contains the entire thread. So if you forget something as you're typing a reply, you can see the whole thread from there.

Wheres this at? I'm looking right now at the reply window, and am not seeing what you are talking about.

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Originally posted by Mini z Crazy:

id like to see and engine swap section. And in it it would be sub-divided into the the various swaps. ie.... 4.9, SBC, 3800 NA + SC + turbo, 2.8-3.4 pushrod, and 3.4 Dohc.


Just my 2 cents.


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Originally posted by Fierofreak00:


Wheres this at? I'm looking right now at the reply window, and am not seeing what you are talking about.

I think what he's refering to is if you scroal down, wile in the reply screen, you'll be able to see the entire thread you're replying to.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Since the idea of splitting the Tech section seems to be pretty popular, how about this:

1) Stockers -- Maintenance, repairs, and restoration of stock or mostly-stock Fieros, including general tech talk
2) Motorheads -- Engine tweaking/tuning, engine/tranny swaps, and drag racing
3) Turismos -- Suspension/brake/chassis mods and upgrades, plus autocross and road racing
4) Modders -- Body swaps/mods, interior swaps/mods, custom lights, custom wheels, and show prep

Personally I like the way its set up now, but if you want to add more sections (or subsections) into TD&Q, I think this is far and away the best "proposal" I've heard for splitting it up more.

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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Quoth Fierofreak00: Wheres this at? I'm looking right now at the reply window, and am not seeing what you are talking about.

How's that?

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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TiggerSend a Private Message to TiggerDirect Link to This Post
I like the way it currently is. More sections would only create confusion and chance for topics being started in the wrong section or overlooked.

Only suggestion I'd ask for is a better search function. It's better to keep all tech threads started in the same place and a better search function would make it easier to return to old threads or find particular topic or question.

Many times I've tried using the search function and couldn't return to a thread I had even posted in or was active a week ago. Sometimes searches turn up every type of topic out there except for what I was looking for. And sometimes before responding to a question I try to search for an old thread to reference and include to save time typing and can't find it.

Only a suggestion and sorry I don't have the answer to make it better.

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Report this Post07-08-2004 10:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroMaster88Send a Private Message to FieroMaster88Direct Link to This Post
I think a more broken down tech section would be cool, but how much is our lazyness going to cost YOU Cliff?

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Report this Post07-08-2004 11:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt88Send a Private Message to fierogt88Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Since the idea of splitting the Tech section seems to be pretty popular, how about this:

1) Stockers -- Maintenance, repairs, and restoration of stock or mostly-stock Fieros, including general tech talk
2) Motorheads -- Engine tweaking/tuning, engine/tranny swaps, and drag racing
3) Turismos -- Suspension/brake/chassis mods and upgrades, plus autocross and road racing
4) Modders -- Body swaps/mods, interior swaps/mods, custom lights, custom wheels, and show prep

The titles probably don't fit the style of the forum, but you get the idea.

I concur. This idea is the greatest. I think the STYLE of this setup is what I love the most. This organization really adds flavor, and appeals to the multi-faceted nature of the fiero! You get a + even if this is not implemented.

FAQ Section. This can be done to include writeups and the beloved restoration articles. The Cave and the existing writeup section are nice, but they need an overhaul so that they are easy to get to and easy to find the information.

I would really really really really really like to have an easy way to find the recent threads I've posted in. I know everybody rolls their eyes when boards are compared, but clubgp has a really nice way to see the last 50 thread posts. Maybe there is a way to color-code threads that you have posted in. I know how much Cliff likes color codes...

1/4 Mile List is absolutely great, but could be easily implemented by a sticky thread.

The Pictures section is soooooo old. I think it would be neat if we had a profile page where we could upload three or four pictures to appear on a pictures page. Limited space but easy to update from a user basis so Cliff doesn't have to deal with it after implementing the code. Maybe your space could grow with how long you've been here or how much positive you have on your ratings bar...

The search function seems fine to me, and has always served me well. My only problem with the search function is the ridiculous titles that half the people put on their threads and there isn't much that can be done about that... Besides, as long as we have MinnGreen around, we have the best indexing system on the internet..

As far as more moderators, I'm not a big fan of that idea. We have the ratings system. I have always been against the ratings system because positive reactions are sooo hard to come by and negatives are soooo easy, but at least you get a forum concensus instead of some dictator flexing their internet muscles. I'll take the ratings system "mad mob" mentality over more moderators any day. And to have both would be ridiculous.

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Originally posted by fourpoint9:


Engine
Suspension
Bodywork
Interior


I vote for this and more MODS.

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Breaking down the Tech section would be better. Our Club site has: 1 Electrical 2 Mechanical 3 Body/Glass

I think 4 sections for tech would be great.
Stock/Restore
Swaps
Extrior
Interior

Also opening events section up with regions would be awsome ie..so look in South when looking for something in Florida. ect....

For Sale section brake into 4 seperate areas Sale/ Free/ Trade/ Wanted. If I am looking to sell some part I look in Wanted and sell before I post for sale

Look at it this way cliff. Try it and if it does not work can always change back

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Can we have a section for upcoming fiero events and an official post for that event. This is for events like Wheatstock. Also an official post for the pictures after the event.
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1) Email notification option for EVERYONE that posts in a thread, not just the person that started the thread!!! That way, when a response is posted, you are notified (if you so desire). I can't tell you how many times I have lost threads and wondered if anyone ever replied. (I'm sure no one did. No one cares what I post. )

2) A PM archive. I can't tell you how many PMs I have lost because I was out of space.

3) Ratings bars for people as soon as they get a single rating. Right now the ratings bar is like putting Xmas presents out at Thanksgiving. You get to stare and wonder for a month what you're getting, and if you'll like it when you do get it. Pop that ratings bar out right from the beginning. Lay the cards on the table ASAP.

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Report this Post07-08-2004 11:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Darth FieroClick Here to visit Darth Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Darth FieroDirect Link to This Post
I have a few suggestions if I may. I have noticed a lot of the same questions keep getting posted about electrical, repair procedures, etc. I know there are a lot of websites out there that have this information available, but finding them can be difficult at times and a lot of people don't like to navigate away from PFF. My suggestion is to add a section here on PFF where you can view or download specs, wiring diagrams, and repair procedures. I would GLADLY provide the wiring diagrams in PDF format for the Fiero and most popular engine swaps. Let me know how I can help out.

Now the biggest thing I think that needs some attention is the search engine. I would like to be able to search posts by username, date range, etc. Just need some more options there in my opinion.

I also like the idea of spliting up the tech section. Almost every other forum has their techinical discussion forums split up in the following ways:

-powertrain related
-suspension/steering
-body/interior
-electrical
etc etc

I am sure you can split this up even further but it sounds like a lot of work. The general fiero chat can stay but I think we need to rename it to the "Fiero Lounge" and make sure ALL of the technical discusssion stays out of the lounge. Off-topic can stay since it is pretty much self-explainatory.

I would like to see a permanent 1/4 mile list as well. A dyno list would work too along with some lists for cornering G's, track times (road course), etc. Just a bulletin board of whos car does what, backed up by the appropriate documentation of course to keep the trolls weeded out. (Over at CarDomain it seems like everyone's car runs 6's in the 1/4 mile now )

Also, I don't know how much work it would be but I would like to see some more options in the profile area. It would be nice to be able to add all of your vehicle info to your profile so when you post, it would show up under your username in the thread. There are a lot of posts in the tech section from people asking a question that is specific to their year/eng/trans Fiero but they neglect to tell anyone what they have. Just something in small print over under your username similar to your location info would work great and wouldn't clog up the posts too bad. I just think it would give everyone a better idea of what car you have and what is done to it. I believe this would help shrink the sigs in the posts as well because a lot of that info could be moved to the left margin which is mostly unused now.

Besides those suggestions, there is one thing I take issue with. The ratings system. I have said it before and I will say it again: I think the ratings system can be a great tool if used properly. The problem is in most cases it isn't used properly, more or less it is misused by people who have a disagreement with someone about an idea or something on a personal level. In addition to that, I have noticed that there are some "unnamed" groups of people or "supporters" of certain individuals on this forum who will all vote someone negatively if that person disagrees with their "idol" or "idealogy", so to speak. This is the internet, and I don't know if this problem can ever be solved. I guess it is up to Cliff how to best handle this because I can't think of a really good solution. In other words, I don't want people who agree with me voting negatively on someone who I disagree with, just because I disagree with or don't get along with them. That is an example of how the ratings system gets misused.

Besides that I do want the dark background colors to STAY. It has been easier on my eyes.

[EDIT] I also second the option of subscribing (email notification) to a thread I post in, not just those I start.

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Report this Post07-09-2004 12:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave GunsulSend a Private Message to Dave GunsulDirect Link to This Post
Just MY opinion and no flame intended:
I can't fathom why people can't figure out which threads they do and don't want to read on here. It's simple and organized very well IMHO. Tech is tech, general is general. How much simpler can that get? Why do you want to mess up a good and easy thing? Last thing you want to do is make something more complicated and that's what a lot of you are proposing. Breaking down the sections will only make it more difficult to figure out where something should be posted and/or where to find it.
The only thing i've seen in this thread that i do believe would be nice to upgrade is the search function brought up by Tigger. The search is kind of strange in how it works but, even that, i've gotten used to with some practice. I guess what i'm trying to say here Cliff is that i like it the way you've got it now. I've seen other car forums and they're much more confusing and cluttered, again, in my humble opinion. Breaking things down will only make things more difficult to find and, i'll bet, the same people complaining for changes now will be complaining about it being to confusing after it's done.
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Forgot to mention about the moderators; Cliff is kind of seperated from the rest of us and that makes him a little more impartial which is why i think he should retain all control over the forum. Moderators do tend to let the power go to their head and there's also the fact that everyone's different so the way one mod. reacts will be different to the way another one does. That only breeds confusion and arguing. One mod (Cliff) means we all get to know how he runs things and it's all the same for everyone which is good.

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I have an O/T question and I apologize, but does the Search function understand Boolian Logic (AND, OR, NOT, etc)? I've tried to test it but I can't decide whether it understands what I'm asking it or not.
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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

I have an O/T question and I apologize, but does the Search function understand Boolian Logic (AND, OR, NOT, etc)? I've tried to test it but I can't decide whether it understands what I'm asking it or not.

As far as I can tell, search is just a text search feature and ordering of the results is fairly random, or maybe based upon occurence rate of the key words. I wish the search was more complete, with date and boolean, especially excludes.

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Ability to delete your own thread, and alter the title if you mess it up.

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My only suggestion is the search engine...and my "solution" is to add an optional field on the post a new topic page. The field could be a drop down box with general keywords, or a user entered keyword(1 word limit). Then add the "subject keyword" to the "search in" dropdown.

Of course I'm not sure what to do about the billion old topics...maybe allow the topic starter to add the keyword to it?

Maybe add a "Rate the topic" where user voting would put it higher in the search results?

With this, you could also maybe sort by it, to see recent topics....instead of breaking up the sections further

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A FAQ section would be great. There are numerous tech articles that people have wrote up over time that are just posted as threads. They are visible for a couple days, then slip into history. I would guess that hardly anyone uses the main page entry, and especially not to look for a small link that has 4 articles in it. Make the FAQ section that is listed with all the other sections.

Break the tech section into a few more sections. Some things move off page one so fast that they are not seen.

Split the mall into separate sections for selling and buying. That way you do not have to open a thread that is selling something when you think they want to buy. Loose the auction section, it is rarely used and just shortens the page of selling stuff.

Make the rating bar appear sooner. That way it won't be such a covoted item. I had about 1000 posts before mine showed, and most of my postings are answers in the tech section. Make the reason for the rating appear but not the rator. I see all the time people claiming that they showing red because the simply disagreed with someone. Possibly if they could understand that people gave then a red because every other word was a vulgarity and that they were trying to instigate arguments they MIGHT actually be more positive on other posts.

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Ideas mentioned that I like-

Ability to "subscribe" to a thread that you have posted in.
"Restoration" forum.

Ideas I don't really care for-

More moderators. By Cliff setting this up as a "Self-moderated" forum, there are THOUSANDS of moderators. I really don't think we need to give anyone an ego boost like that. We each have a vote, and we each have the ability to counsel our peers through PMs. If someone is a real tool, their rating bar will show it soon enough,

Idea I would like to see.

Get rid of the "Club Announcements" and make it a Forum where anyone can post a get together or run, and Fiero sightings. I think community is one of the best things about this forum, and to have a section that fosters this kind of fellowship without burying the posts under "Can you have sex in a Fiero" and "I saw a Fiero in Ferris Bueller's Day Off!" threads in General Fiero Chat would be very helpful.

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I like the idea of being able to delete your own thread. being able to alter the title also, and seeing what i am being rated and why from the outset.

I have to agree that the search is needing some work but I am getting the hang of it more and more so i can deal with it.

Splitting tech into 5 sections just makes me have to read more different sections. I like it the way it is.

If i post something that i would like to see a response to i bookmark it and later delete it from my bookmarks.

and the gallery does need some new pics.

I dont know how many people have noticed or seen that window in the bottom of the reply cause before this thread i never knew it was there. It is great. thank you to Blacktree for pointing it out.
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Report this Post07-09-2004 02:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JT6666Send a Private Message to JT6666Direct Link to This Post
Many good enhancements mentioned.

I prefer a better search engine above all else.
Getting back to visited threads via Email/Subscriptions would be welcome.

This is a Wonderful site- I would not have kept my Fiero if it wasn't here.
I will send a donation next paycheck.

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Report this Post07-09-2004 02:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Darth FieroClick Here to visit Darth Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Darth FieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Dave Gunsul:

Just MY opinion and no flame intended:
I can't fathom why people can't figure out which threads they do and don't want to read on here. It's simple and organized very well IMHO. Tech is tech, general is general. How much simpler can that get? Why do you want to mess up a good and easy thing? Last thing you want to do is make something more complicated and that's what a lot of you are proposing. Breaking down the sections will only make it more difficult to figure out where something should be posted and/or where to find it.

You might be on to something. I still can't get over how many people keep posting tech questions/articles in General Fiero Chat and how many people post General BS that has nothing to do with TECH in the Tech section.

I think the tech section needs to get split up because it routinely gets clogged up with some simple questions. Not that it is a bad thing, but sometimes I know what I want to look for and don't want to have to scroll thru 5 pages to find it. If the tech section gets split up, Cliff can keep it simple, like I mentioned earlier. If someone gets confused about where to post a suspension related question, when there is a dedicated suspension list, then that person deserves not to have their question answered. I think the splitting up of the tech section would help the community more because people who specialize in one aspect of tech will undoubtedly spend more time in there topic area of expertise which equates to you getting your question looked at and answered more quickly INSTEAD of getting shuffled down the list.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Since the idea of splitting the Tech section seems to be pretty popular, how about this:

1) Stockers -- Maintenance, repairs, and restoration of stock or mostly-stock Fieros, including general tech talk
2) Motorheads -- Engine tweaking/tuning, engine/tranny swaps, and drag racing
3) Turismos -- Suspension/brake/chassis mods and upgrades, plus autocross and road racing
4) Modders -- Body swaps/mods, interior swaps/mods, custom lights, custom wheels, and show prep

The titles probably don't fit the style of the forum, but you get the idea.

I like this idea. Simple and effective. Of course, if you split up Tech, it's going to create more threads in the wrong section...

A FAQ section would be helpful, something like "The most common Fiero problems and how to fix them", along with great big links so everyone knows where it is.

As far as more moderators, I'm voting no on that one. Most of the other forums I visit tend to develop mod conflicts and personality cults. Also a lot of whining about "this mod is unfair", or "this mod needs to go". We've ALL got the ability to moderate here, I don't really see the value of extra mods, except maybe to keep threads in the right section. But giving people the ability to close threads, block or ban users, etc., just seems like a huge potential mess.

My only other input is to agree with those who want to see improvements to the search function. As others have said, even when you know the thread title, it can be a headache trying to find the thread. With such a vast store of information on this site, it would be great if it was more easily accessible. Can't always hope that MinnGreen is around to find stuff for you .

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:
I have an O/T question and I apologize, but does the Search function understand Boolian Logic (AND, OR, NOT, etc)? I've tried to test it but I can't decide whether it understands what I'm asking it or not.

 
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As far as I can tell, search is just a text search feature and ordering of the results is fairly random, or maybe based upon occurence rate of the key words. I wish the search was more complete, with date and boolean, especially excludes.

Search does understand boolean operators. Take a look at the search help page. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/search_help.html
I think there should be a brief overview of these search features on the search page so people can learn of them more easily; I just noticed the "Search help" button today! Search has suddenly become a lot more useful.
The ability to sort by date and search by username would certainly be helpful.
I don't know if its possible, but being able to search only for content in the first post in a thread could prove to be useful in some circumstances.

I really like the idea of being able to "subscribe" to threads you've posted in or are otherwise interested in being notified of new replies to. A restoration forum would also be helpful.
One of my biggest pet peeves is subject lines that are very uninformative. How about putting a reminder next to the box for the subject that reminds posters to use a title that doesn't say something like "i need help" or "look here"?

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

I like the idea of splitting the Tech into Engines, Body, Suspension, Interior. Thats all the split you need, cause pretty much everything falls into one of those categories.

I also like the idea of a reason for a rating being required, and for it to be visible to the person, but not who submitted the rating. I don't care WHO rated me negative, but I'd like to know why. If 10 people rate me negatively for the same reason, I'll know what I'm doing that people don't like and I can try to avoid acting like that. Knowing that several people aren't happy with me doesn't tell me anything more than that several people are unhappy with me. If I knew why they were unhappy, I could do something about it.

I agree with the above.

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Ok, thanks all for your input.


More Tech Sections
I guess the general concensus is we need more Tech sections. My idea is this:

  • Engine (this includes swaps)
  • Suspension
  • Cosmetic (Bodywork and Interior)
  • Other (everything else)

Search
Reading through here, I see that most people simply do not know how the search works. Try clicking "Help" in the search page. Yes, the search does support boolean operators, it's all in the Help.

Moderators
I knew this one would pop up. Please drop the subject because I am convinced moderators aren't the solution to any problem. I will explain perhaps in another thread, but for now let's concentrate on other things.

FAQ
Yes, I realize I could simply link to all the technical articles out there, but we need something "FAQ-style". And I have an idea how we can build one together. I'll elaborate later.

Gallery
I agree, the gallery is ooooooooold. We need something where people can submit their pictures themselves. But they would first be submitted to some kind of "waiting room" from which others can vote if they should make the gallery or not.

Polls
I really love polls. Problem is that the moment they are introduced is the moment they are abused. I really don't care for polls on what toothpaste you use, or three-thousand polls about wether or not Bush should stay. And I bet we would see a lot of polls about other members.

Events list
I'm already working on something better.

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Geeshs,
So many different ideas. Some I agree with, some I don’t.
i'll only respond to the first points right now.

 
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Fiero FAQ
This is something that pops up a few times per year. And every time everybody is all for it. But also when it's time for volunteers to step forward to create this project, the silence is deafening, and the idea dies. So maybe we should make this a joint effort. I can start a thread about it and we'll take it from there.

I thought Ogre had pretty much filled in the FAQ blank. Maybe the cave needs to have a FAQ link pointing to it.

but i am up for it.
give me a list of topics to work on and i'll get on it. I do have 50+ fieros at my fingertips to play with.

 
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Technicle articles
Again, this pops up regularly. But such a section already exists. It's on the main page on the left. So simply send me your article and I will put it there.

ok, so i am looking and dont see anything that would get my attention.

 
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More (technical) sections
I'm all for it. But keep it reasonable. I don't want Technical to be split-up in tons of different sections (like some other car forums do). Maybe 3 or 4 sections in total would be sufficient. Heck, even the workshop manual only has 5 sections. If people have a problem with their car, they shouldn't be spending an hour first to figure out in what section their question belongs. If we agree here we need more sections, I'll start another thread for it to figure out which sections we need.`

I don’t like the idea.
Having multiple sections would make it harder for me to follow a thread, or even worse I may not even read a question I know the answer to because it is in a section that I normally wouldn’t go to.

i'll be back after i get some sleep to retort some of the other PFFer's requests


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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:
I think the tech section needs to get split up because it routinely gets clogged up with some simple questions. Not that it is a bad thing, but sometimes I know what I want to look for and don't want to have to scroll thru 5 pages to find it. If the tech section gets split up, Cliff can keep it simple, like I mentioned earlier. If someone gets confused about where to post a suspension related question, when there is a dedicated suspension list, then that person deserves not to have their question answered. I think the splitting up of the tech section would help the community more because people who specialize in one aspect of tech will undoubtedly spend more time in there topic area of expertise which equates to you getting your question looked at and answered more quickly INSTEAD of getting shuffled down the list.

so unless someone is asking for chip burning advise you'll overlook the thread???

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Originally posted by mcaanda:

Ability to delete your own thread, and alter the title if you mess it up.

ooh yes I 2nd that

if a thread got out of hand it'd give the person an option to close their thread well not close but to delete it

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How's that?

Thank you! Now I see it!

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1. Split Tech up: Engine / Suspension / Exterior / Interior

2. FAQ section. The problem with this is: Newbies don't as a general rule like to review FAQ's.. or they are unsure of what questions to actually ask.. FAQ's are more for the "seasoned" crowd. Not that I'm saying that we SHOULDN'T have one.. we definatly should.. but don't look for a FAQ section to reduce the number of "how do I open my gas fill door??!?!?"

3. Events Forum: one forum.. for upcoming events and event photos

4. E-mail notification on a thread (ie, watch this thread)

5. Make rating reasons visible to the person being rated.. not everyone else.

6. Ignore feature: The ability to plonk someone we just know we can't get along with... If for example, (and this is just an example) Chester starts a thread.. and I don't get along with chester.. and every time I see him post something, it makes my blood boil.. if I had the ability to put chester on ignore, then I've effectivly banned him from the forum (at least in my own little world)..

7. Polls Forum: Yes, polls are fun.. but keep them out of the rest of the message boards.

8. Improved search engine: You have a PM on this one Cliff

9. NO MORE MODERATORS: With the ratings system.. and introduction of an ignore feature.. we could effectivly self moderate the forum

10. proclaim once and for all that notchbacks rule, fastbacks drool

11. WYSIWG post box: the ability to see what our post will look like, as we are making our post. I have some code that I've used in the past to create this.. let me know if you are interested.

12. p-body registry: Much like the f-body.org registry. I registered when I had my Trans Am.. pretty cool stuff.

13. Buildup Blogger: a standard blog for each user (that wants to use one) to keep a history of their vehicle as it goes through whatever changes they make. I say use a blog type system instead of (make a thread and bump it) so that it can be seperate, not fall off, etc, etc. Something like the way LiveJournel is setup (http://www.livejournel.com)

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Cliff,

I really don't want more in the tech session. It's my opinion that all you need is a technical FAQ, and that's it. Here's my reasoning. If you add lots of other sections, support will drop off for the opposing sections. EG.. If I have an engine problem, I'll spend my time in engines, and none of the others. At least now, if I have an engine problem, I'll post there with my question, and while I'm there, I may respond to someone's question about a T-top leak, or a brake line, or whatever. If you have a FAQ, if I need a specific answer quickly, I can just look it up, and be done.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


More Tech Sections
I guess the general concensus is we need more Tech sections. My idea is this:

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  • Engine (this includes swaps)
  • Suspension
  • Cosmetic (Bodywork and Interior)
  • Other (everything else)
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    What about requiring everyone to read the "Code of Conduct" once a year? Like on the 1st day of their anniversary month or whenever they log on after that if they aren't on that day...some people need a refresher of the rules and it would be an automatic way of doing it.

    Also on the Ford Truck forum (which I landed on in a round about way) there was a "report this post to moderator button"
    maybe that would help you out Cliff?

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    Originally posted by Fierochic88:

    What about requiring everyone to read the "Code of Conduct" once a year? Like on the 1st day of their anniversary month or whenever they log on after that if they aren't on that day...some people need a refresher of the rules and it would be an automatic way of doing it.

    Also on the Ford Truck forum (which I landed on in a round about way) there was a "report this post to moderator button"
    maybe that would help you out Cliff?

    Jen

    I like both of these ideas. You could make us all read the code and check a box that we acknowledge that we have read the rules and agree to them. The second idea is just another way for us to help moderate/police ourselves.

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    Welcome back Cliff, I am glad to see that your time away has you wanting to continue this forum!
    I was concerned that you might throw in the towel. I welcome any changes you see fit. I believe the forum members appreciate
    your willingness to entertain some changes. Keep up the GREAT WORK!!!!!!!!
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    Ability to delete your own thread, and alter the title if you mess it up.


    this is a great idea, it works well in the other forums i visit

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