Now that MY 3800 parts have been produced, I have the real pics of them. These are for ALL years.
These are designed for strength, using 1/4 inch steel. Gusset reinforcement. Precision welding. Laser-cut parts. Corners are welded, not press-braked. Bolts are a grade 8 EXACT fit to the bushing sleeve, NO slop. Replaceable bushings. Proven parts !!!
Exclusively use by Loyde @ " Fast Fiero's " First is a full complete set for a 3800 with an auto trans $375 shipped
Applications include stock Fiero drivetrain - All 3800 series I & series II N/A & Supercharged. All 440T4 - 4T60 - 4T60E - 4T65E H.D. auto transmissions. All stock Fiero manual transmissions ( with upper bracket still in place )
YES they come with a guarantee. You won't find a better set of mounts for a conversion or used in stock form.
Then there is the set for the manual $275 shipped
Then there is a set for the stock Fiero $200 shipped
Then there is just the needed adapters to bolt to the 3800 with auto trans $175 for 3
A completed set
I can make these too if needed.
Also making the Alternator relocation bracket with dogbone & tensioner & pulley. Originally designed by Skitime, just slightly modified at the bottom.
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They look great, I do have a question about the engine mount itself. It looks like it only bolts to the fr side of the enginenear ac??? Reason I ask is the adapter I want to use turns towards the pan and has oil cooler fittings the go underneathg crank pulley, i hoping it is one I can use.
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PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
They look great, I do have a question about the engine mount itself. It looks like it only bolts to the fr side of the enginenear ac??? Reason I ask is the adapter I want to use turns towards the pan and has oil cooler fittings the go underneathg crank pulley, i hoping it is one I can use.
If it is a problem I can custom make one that will work.
I currently have one of those factory adapters for an engine oil cooler on and it runs right beside the crank pulley & guides the lines underneath it. Even though I'm using the adapter for a pre-oiling system.
Here's my question, I just bought a '92 series 1 N/A 3800, will your mounts work? If not, can you make mounts that would work, or point me in the direction to some that work?
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Apr 24th, 2004
PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Here's my question, I just bought a '92 series 1 N/A 3800, will your mounts work? If not, can you make mounts that would work, or point me in the direction to some that work?
Yep..............they work for that.................KEV has a set in his car.
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shop_rat45 Member
Posts: 3271 From: Lapeer, Michigan Registered: Mar 2004
How much for just the auto shifter setup? I have an original WCF setup and if I go below 3rd gear I have to get out and manually move it from the engine compartment to move it back up.
weld?? whats that.. is it a needed mod for my 3800SC??
Man I know what the parts of an engine are and how they work but thats it.. you stomp the pedal and you go.. My kit is like the ultimate Lego set without instructions.. I learn as I go.. I might have a full days worth of outside help in the last 5 years!! (I did wake my GF up at 3am once to put the rear clip on for a car show that morning!!)
the simpler it is the better!! And put me down for a kit.. though I already have a engine clamp (big metal thing) and the bottom part of the engine mount and a top part of a trans mount (dont ask, I even dont know) PM me sometime and well work things out.
Also interested in the auto shifter thingy. since I said hell with the Getrag and am now going 4t65Ehd.. Nice work by the way.. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.. Don't let any naysayers get you down. Well back to work I go!! L8
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PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Just a few questions:: Do you have any pics of these installed in the car?
I'll get some today
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What trans are the auto mounts set up for?
4T60e, 4T65e, 4T65e H.D. & 440t4
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Does this lower the engine enough to allow the the alternator to fit in its stock location? (without cutting the deck lid)
I doubt it..............i have never seen a mount set than has enough room to "rebuild" the mount that way.
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Do any mods have to be done to the cradle (84-87) for them to fit?
NO
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Is there an advantage to these over 87GT3800SC5SPD's mounts? (sorry, not trying to start a flame, just trying to choose the best ones for my project)
I dont think so, aren't his designed to lower the Getrag ??? Anyhow his look well engineered. But I designed these for strength since I'm having that issue with my engine.
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Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
How much for just the auto shifter setup? I have an original WCF setup and if I go below 3rd gear I have to get out and manually move it from the engine compartment to move it back up.
I do these for $40 if you send me the bracket & shift shaft lever that is on the stock auto trans. You will be able to get every gear, just that the Fiero indicator on the interior is of course a little off.
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PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Looks good, when are they gonna get shipped? I talked to you over email last week about them. Need an engine still though, but that's a minor detail....
Looks good, when are they gonna get shipped? I talked to you over email last week about them. Need an engine still though, but that's a minor detail....
If memory serves me right, you wanted a full set for an auto. They should be ready to ship by the end of the week.
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AusFiero Member
Posts: 11513 From: Dapto NSW Australia Registered: Feb 2001
Got any pictures of your alternator bracket? (I could have the alternator bracket to you in a week from now. ) Can you have a set of mounts ready and delivered to another part of the USA before the 22nd of May? The manual mounts work with a 4 speed yes? Any package deal price buying a complete set of mounts and the alternator bracket? What is a complete price shipped within the USA for all of the above?
Got any pictures of your alternator bracket? (I could have the alternator bracket to you in a week from now. ) Can you have a set of mounts ready and delivered to another part of the USA before the 22nd of May? The manual mounts work with a 4 speed yes? Any package deal price buying a complete set of mounts and the alternator bracket? What is a complete price shipped within the USA for all of the above?
Yes I can have a set done real soon..................they work perfect with any manual.......................a 4 piece set of mounts for a 3800 with a manual and an alt relocation bracket I can do for $400.............add $20 for shipping.
Does this help ???? There is a pic above of the alt bracket with the tensioner & pulley & dogbone mount.
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Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
please tell me that there is a much smaller pulley going on there!!!
It just looks odd ! eh what do I know...... I don't even have a pulley there
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I agree its a bit big ( looks like a windmill to me ) but it has to be to get the belt to clear the water pump as it comes from the A/C pump. Until I find another tensioner that has a longer arm, this is what works.
Well you could do like me and just invert the water pump pulley so it will run on the outer crank grooves and make a new path for that belt tenisioner. sorry to hyjack..
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Apr 26th, 2004
PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Looks good. So, how much for all mounts (including the alternator/dog bone mount). Other that that, a 3800SC is pretty much a straight bolt up, right? Then there's the wiring and hose/exhaust routing, but you don't have to cut the cradle or decklid, etc. for clearance, do you ?
Nevermind about the price.... I just re-read the thread. Still interested on feeback on the swap, though.
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PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Looks good. So, how much for all mounts (including the alternator/dog bone mount). Other that that, a 3800SC is pretty much a straight bolt up, right? Then there's the wiring and hose/exhaust routing, but you don't have to cut the cradle or decklid, etc. for clearance, do you ?
Nevermind about the price.... I just re-read the thread. Still interested on feeback on the swap, though.
Yes the 3800 is a straight bolt in, depending on the donor car it came from will determine other small problems. I can let you know what those are.
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DjDraggin Member
Posts: 2854 From: St Louis, MO. USA Registered: Feb 2003
------------------ Ferrari 308 GTB rebody on a modified 86SE chasis Soon to have a highly hooped up 3800SC..Ohh yeah baby!! Contacts _ AIM / Zildjianfx _ Yahoo / djdraggin Remember, always brush your milk, drink your teeth, dont do sleep and get eight hours of drugs.
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Apr 27th, 2004
cccharlie Member
Posts: 2006 From: North Smithfield, RI Registered: Jan 2003
Looks like a great price on the mounts and shift bracket.
As for the alternator - Can I just use an '88 alternator ( I have an 88 coupe no pw pl no crazy audio system)
Looks like I may have to pick up a few extra shifts at work.......
------------------ 88 4cyl auto Fiero, AC, sunroof "And isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" - The Tick
Im in for an auto set come this friday. My tranny is the 4t65e-HD as long as it fits that Im good. If you PM me your addy it will go out friday am by priority. HIOSILVER>
i would be interested in getting a set for the manual and an alt relocation bracket. LMK.
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PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Looks like a great price on the mounts and shift bracket.
As for the alternator - Can I just use an '88 alternator ( I have an 88 coupe no pw pl no crazy audio system)
Looks like I may have to pick up a few extra shifts at work.......
Sure .............you can use either alternator. The bracket just relocates it to the stock area & provides an upper dogbone with a pulley & tensioner for the belt.
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Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
i would be interested in getting a set for the manual and an alt relocation bracket. LMK.
No problem..................manual set with alt bracket is $435
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Im in for an auto set come this friday. My tranny is the 4t65e-HD as long as it fits that Im good. If you PM me your addy it will go out friday am by priority. HIOSILVER
P.M. done
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Apr 28th, 2004
Flyguyeddy Member
Posts: 568 From: pekin, Il USA Registered: Dec 2003
ha ha
Need an engine still though, but that's a minor detail....
