Beautiful Car. I would love to see it in person!!!

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I see this fiero is listed in Hemmings this month for $22,500. You're selling it already?

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3 Indys, 1 is A/C delete
84 Black/Silver T-top custom
85 GT speedster
86 GT Yellow
88 Formula, Red
88 GT White, T-top, 5 speed.

However......
"Time is the most precious and perishable of my possessions."

Buy IRM, again! at www.fierowarehouse.com

007DOUG, an IFCF member. (International Fiero Crime Fighter)

Jeremy- When were these photos taken? Who brought the car to you and from where? Copy of service receipt perhaps? Where is your shop? Thank you kindly as I just want to gather as much info about this car as possible. Thanks!! Scott in Michigan P.S. Since you are in the biz, what do you think the going "worth" is on a 2 owner, original yellow, 5 spd. GT with Sub w., grey cloth, and less than 30k miles. Sunroof, wing, stock and very nice condition needing nothing. Worth 10k?

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84 Fiero ASC Built Red Prototype Convertible Fiero-300 Miles, 03 Yellow Vette Conv. 05 Yellow H2-sut, 04 Red GTO, 04 VW Phaeton, 03 White Escalade EXT, 97 Prowler (orig. owner 300 miles), 04 Honda Rune, 01 Yellow Honda Goldwing

That has to be the best execution of a convertable top in a Fireo that I've ever seen! Thanks for sharing!

Rob D.

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The Dirty Rat
Chopped, dropped and just plain NASTY! Choptop Targa #1
383 Stroker MPFI with N2O
1" Drop
3" Chop
11" Brakes
19" Motegi Roja's wrapped in BFGoodrich Gforce T/A KDW-2 rubber
RCC Coilover Suspension
Updated Jan 21 '04 www.dirtyratracing.org

And I was the previous owner of this car.... (Sold it to Scott)

Whew.

quote Originally posted by x-thumpr-x: Welcome to PFF, would this be your previous baby? It now resides in the GTA area and is well taken car of. You could not have sold the fiero to another person that would treat the car the way Lothar does. I'll put him at the top of the list of any car pampering competion! You have to see the car to believe it!

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Is it really 1 of 1? As far as Im concerned that Fiero wasnt made by Pontiac, its an after market one, so it doesnt qualify as 1 of 1. ASC can make a duplicate one tomorrow if they wanted. Which brings up the question, why arent they making kits for the convertible Fieros in the first place.

ASC works with the manufacturers/ OEMS such as...GM, FORD, Chrysler etc. and does not enter the aftermarket business.

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84 Fiero ASC Built Red Prototype Convertible Fiero-300 Miles, 03 Yellow Vette Conv. 05 Yellow H2-sut, 04 Red GTO, 04 VW Phaeton, 03 White Escalade EXT, 97 Prowler (orig. owner 300 miles), 04 Honda Rune, 01 Yellow Honda Goldwing

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quote Originally posted by Quad GT: Is it really 1 of 1? As far as Im concerned that Fiero wasnt made by Pontiac, its an after market one, so it doesnt qualify as 1 of 1. ASC can make a duplicate one tomorrow if they wanted. Which brings up the question, why arent they making kits for the convertible Fieros in the first place.

ASC (American Specialty Cars, or the former american Sunroof Corp.) makes OEM Convertibles for the big 3 and others. The Chevrolet SSR is a recent example of their work. They are not aftermaerket

Here is a link to their website where you can do a little research for yourself. http://www.ascglobal.com/

I did do my research, and if you read up on it they tried to pitch a convertable to GM. Which means its an experiment and nothing more. Like I said they can make the same one tommorrow like yours. No offence but all you have is just a convetable "Fiero" which is no different than any other done up Fiero.

Bet you wouldn't say/think that if you owned it! You can't even spell CONVERTIBLE properly!

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84 Fiero ASC Built Red Prototype Convertible Fiero-300 Miles, 03 Yellow Vette Conv. 05 Yellow H2-sut, 04 Red GTO, 04 VW Phaeton, 03 White Escalade EXT, 97 Prowler (orig. owner 300 miles), 04 Honda Rune, 01 Yellow Honda Goldwing

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quote Originally posted by Quad GT: I did do my research, and if you read up on it they tried to pitch a convertable to GM. Which means its an experiment and nothing more. Like I said they can make the same one tommorrow like yours. No offence but all you have is just a convetable "Fiero" which is no different than any other done up Fiero.

I am lost on your thinking. ASC works on "new" cars. They are not a specialty shop doing custom work on 20 year vehicles. Why would they do another Fiero convertible when there really is no market for it. Yes it is a prototype like the 90. But would GM go out and make another 90 Fiero?

Thanks Mark!! There are jealous people everywhere.

Scott;
I'am having a meeting Sat 2-12-05 with a fellow from GM archives. Will see what info may be available on this special fiero.
Ron
Michigan Fiero Club

Ron- Thank you very much for your thought here. I know GM did not build this, but was built FOR GM consideration and a company called Metalcrafters in California did work on this car. As time goes on vehicles with documentation are much more desirable and valuable than those without. I was at Barrett-Jackson auction a couple of weeks ago and the old cars with build sheets, window stickers, owner history all brough big money. Thanks once again!

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84 Fiero ASC Built Red Prototype Convertible Fiero-300 Miles, 03 Yellow Vette Conv. 05 Yellow H2-sut, 04 Red GTO, 04 VW Phaeton, 03 White Escalade EXT, 97 Prowler (orig. owner 300 miles), 04 Honda Rune, 01 Yellow Honda Goldwing

Will let you know if I get any info. Also you must have sold your bricklens ?
My 33000 mile Ind

Yes, sold vin # 0001 and the very last Bricklin built some years ago. I just have a fondness for cars that don't rust! How did you know about the Bricklins I had?

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84 Fiero ASC Built Red Prototype Convertible Fiero-300 Miles, 03 Yellow Vette Conv. 05 Yellow H2-sut, 04 Red GTO, 04 VW Phaeton, 03 White Escalade EXT, 97 Prowler (orig. owner 300 miles), 04 Honda Rune, 01 Yellow Honda Goldwing

Scott you must have sold your Bricklens?
My Indy 33000 miles with functional light system

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First of all Im not jelous about any body your getting your panties in a knot here dude. I just find it funny how you have the Fiero in a bubble thinking that you are going to get rich off of it. My thinking is that since its not made by "GM" but a company which was pushing this design to GM doesnt qualify as 1 of 1, thats all Im saying. I wasnt bagging or putting the car down that is not my intention here. Its a very nice CONVERTIBLE.

"Dude". My car is in a bubble (which I hate) because thats how I decided to store since top was down not because "thinking I am going to get rich off of it". End of issue! P.S. My Michigan license plate for this Fiero is "1 of 1".

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84 Fiero ASC Built Red Prototype Convertible Fiero-300 Miles, 03 Yellow Vette Conv. 05 Yellow H2-sut, 04 Red GTO, 04 VW Phaeton, 03 White Escalade EXT, 97 Prowler (orig. owner 300 miles), 04 Honda Rune, 01 Yellow Honda Goldwing

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Hey, from what I have gathered here, ASC used to be american sunroof?????? Thats why I couldnt find them. They are the company that made the wrap around spoiler for the w41 calais, the ones that you cant get anywhere anymore. HMMMM, wonder if they have any old stock.

quote Originally posted by p8ntman442: Hey, from what I have gathered here, ASC used to be american sunroof?????? Thats why I couldnt find them. They are the company that made the wrap around spoiler for the w41 calais, the ones that you cant get anywhere anymore. HMMMM, wonder if they have any old stock.

Yes, they used to be called American Sunroof. I have a contact at one of their buildings here in Michigan. I'm going to call him as soon as I get a free moment during business hours and call him about this convertible. While I'm talking to him I'll throw out the spoiler for the Calais and see what he says. The building they do the work in is not that big, so i doubt they have any "stock" so to speak, but it can not hurt to ask.

Hey that is a gorgeous car. A lot nicer and better engineered than my convertible. On the ASC side, you won't get any NOS stuff from them. I once had a 1985 Toyota Celica GTS convertible (which they did the conversions on) and was looking for NOS parts. They nicely said "We do not sell parts which are made or designed by us for (insert vehicle name here). You must contact the manufacturer/seller of the vehicle." Which was a bummer for me, because the parts cost a fortune through Toyota! And I'll bet ASC was still making them for Toyota.

thank you wingnut, any help is great.

I just spoke with a gentleman this morning that worked on the ASC convertible project. In past conversations, I believe he said he has a few panels that have been lying around his place for years that was part of the convertible project. The convertible was produced for GM, and not an independant project.

And as for that yellow GT, my information is that the man I spoke with has purchased it.

quote Originally posted by Quad GT: First of all Im not jelous about any body your getting your panties in a knot here dude. I just find it funny how you have the Fiero in a bubble thinking that you are going to get rich off of it. My thinking is that since its not made by "GM" but a company which was pushing this design to GM doesnt qualify as 1 of 1, thats all Im saying. I wasnt bagging or putting the car down that is not my intention here. Its a very nice CONVERTIBLE.

Here is my take on this. practicly every convertible and T-Top GM car produced over the last 25 years is a Top design made by a non GM company. CJB T-Top Fieros for example, are considered Factory optioned cars... yet the entire Fiero T-Top was designed, fabricated, and installed at Cars & Concepts off GM property. If only one CJB T-Top Fiero was produced at C&C, would it not be considered a 1 of 1 prototype? Thats exactly how the thousands of CJB Fieros were done, i dont see the difference.

The Convertible car here, just like the Fiero 4-seater, Turbo Fiero, 90 Prototype and many others are exactly the same, concept Fieros never produced by GM.

But then, my opinion may be subjective, since i own a Fiero whos "prototype" status has been questioned as well

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Prowler,

Glad to see you finally made it to Pennock's. Nice score on this one. I remember you at the 20th with the yellow Prowler and matching Bike/trailer setup. I don't know if you remember talking to me and my wife. (She lived by the pool for four days.) We own the last 5-spd manual Fiero built on the last day. Seems to me you were waiting for your SSR at the time. Did you mention somewhere else that you know of two low mileage yellow 88GTs for sale? Are these the ones you sold to a Minnesota couple? Just wondering, as i missed my chance when you had the one for sale on e-bay. (No, I don't need another yellow Fiero right now as I have my hands full with V8 Archie's Stinger.) Beside, I need to get a lift to start stacking them first.

Would love to see your car at a Fiero Show.. Fierorama in Chicago 9/11/05? There is going to be other special Fieros there also.......Jeff

Don't care if anyone thinks it is or its not a factory car. All I know it is one of the nicest convert's I have ever seen. Not to flame but I have to agree that those that are saying that it is not real would not say that if it was in their garage. The fact is that is does have less than 300 miles. It is a sweet vert. and if he wants to sell it and make more money off it then let him. Thats wonderful I think, because it only raises the value of OUR cars. prowlerfan, once again, sweet car.

Prowlerfan: Check the drivers door jamb for a small square tag that has a number. Possibly 52 or 56, maybe just a single digit. If so, I can put you in contact with someone who can give you more information on it. He's not on the web, so you'd have to contact him via phone. PM me if this information is correct.

Hey FieroMonkey, long time no see! How are the prototype and Indy's?

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1984 Fiero SE