Does any know if there is a substantial air intake difference in outtie side mounted scoops http://www.usedfieroparts.com/SCOOP.JPG versus innie side mounted scoops http://www.cs-fiero.com/ I would assume the outtie's force more air when the car is moving?

It doesn't matter. The engine will suck in as much air as it needs with either design. You won't get any noticeable ram air effect with the outer scoop. The biggest improvement you could make would be in which air filter you use. What it boils down to is which one do you think looks better on your car.

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quote Originally posted by avengador1: It doesn't matter. The engine will suck in as much air as it needs with either design. You won't get any noticeable ram air effect with the outer scoop. The biggest improvement you could make would be in which air filter you use.

True, however if you are using the other side for oil cooling or intercooling it could be more efficient as an outtie.

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the bottom link with the red GT in it, that's the scoops im buying from the guy but i have to wait to the end of the month since hes opening up a shop in the US, check out his site, i want his headlights as well, lots of cool stuff and nice guy to.

Thanks for the replies and now I'm wondering if outties are BAD? I took off my Holley replica side scoop today to re-paint and found lots of dirt and sand in and around the intake so I thought I better check the air cleaner too and found this:
Is it possible that this scoop takes in so much sand/dirt that it's by passing my K&N and entering the engine There was plenty of sand I had to bang out of the K&N as well. Some of it was on the INSIDE lining!

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Maybe neither. What about something that goes over the top or rests on the deck lid? I'm glad you started this post, I'm looking to do something with mine but keep hesitating because I learn something new every day.

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I'm going with an "outie" for just the reason to change the filter easily, and to keep things clean. The molds have been made, and I have a guy that's about to start pulling pieces relatively soon.

Plus, I think it's kind'a cool that you can have an extra set of scoop cover's if you feel like a 2 tone look one day or a solid color the next. I'm pricing out carbon fiber scoop inserts for the panel as well.

Greg

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quote Originally posted by Vonov: A screen may be necessary between the scoop and the K & N...if you're seeing material on the inside of the filter, you might also want to check the vertical fit on the K & N to be sure it's sealing against the top and bottom of the filter canister.

Took the words outta my mouth lol. Yeah a screen/mesh would be perfect, thanks for making this thread cause I pondered this at times which would be better. Also you might wanna take Skitime's comment into consideration when planning on getting scoops, think ahead.

I'd say innie. I remember reading that someone did outies and they noticed lots of nicks and dings in the paint after not too long.

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i like the innie style.....depends on what u like and the cars shape/style.

BUT i have outties and i do like them too....i think innie is cleaner looking though. yet, the outties are unique and they work AWESOME at cooling, i have my oil cooler behind one and it brings in air 100% to the cooler and works great

the other side...eih, something sooner or later.

PLUS, the new Z06 has the outties, w00t!

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quote Originally posted by Vonov: A screen may be necessary between the scoop and the K & N...if you're seeing material on the inside of the filter, you might also want to check the vertical fit on the K & N to be sure it's sealing against the top and bottom of the filter canister.

I don't know if screen would stop the small particals of sand entering the intake? I was thinking a piece of burlap, cheesecloth or gauze over this area
would stop it from entering. Which material do you think would work best without obstructing air flow? I bought the K&N from the Fiero Store so I know it's the right one so shouldn't it fit right vertically? Also, does anyone remember the thread going back about 4 years ago about removing an obstruction somewhere in the intake box? Anyone ever do it and notice any difference?

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quote Originally posted by Vonov: Fiero GTGuy, you have a PM...

I didn't get it, make sure it's "FieroGTguy".

Greg

Damn! What's up with the woman in this picture?

quote Originally posted by Fiero Finale: Took the words outta my mouth lol. Yeah a screen/mesh would be perfect, thanks for making this thread cause I pondered this at times which would be better. Also you might wanna take Skitime's comment into consideration when planning on getting scoops, think ahead.

Whatever collects on the filter is suppose to be on the inside. On the fiero filter, air comes from the inside of the filter, to the outside, which then goes into the intake. And you shouldn't need a piece of screen or anything else. That's what the filter is for. As long as it is sealed properly.

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Thanks, for all the replies I learn something new about Fiero's everyday! Does anyone remember something about this restriction inside the intake box? I recalled a thread years back and wondered if there really was one or not?

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It's the water separator baffle. Some people take them out-some don't. Removal makes the intake a little noisier. Here's a recent discussion from Tech.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/057194.html

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