I find it very annoying when people post in the mall section. I have (insert fiero part here) for sale on ebay. Here's the link. Come on. Why don't you offer it for sale to forum members first before going ebay? It's like we aren't worthy to buy their stuff, but yet they post to advertise the auction.
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Exotic Rida Member
Posts: 563 From: new orleans louisiana, now displaced to atlanta Registered: Jan 2004
This is to all who are annoyed by others posts, espically those who are annoyed of somone trying to share their fiero experience!
We have the right to our own feelings but here is a solution, dont click on the freaking thing if it annoys you, if McDonalds annoys you, then why go there and complain about the food!!!
Secondly anyone that has that much excitement about their fiero, maybe those are the people you might wanna hang around, maybe those are the people that we need on this here forum we have here,maybe some people see fieros a lot and then one comes their way and they get excited so excited that they wanted to share(if we didnt have members like that, this forum wouldnt be SQUAT)
There are members on here that have so many posts that i cant count... (let me try) Madcurl Jscott Kento DarthFiero Exotic Rida(i have one now about my rims) Malacite spddy fieromadman Miss-Tress007 Tina
Am i annoyed by them????? NO NOT AT ALL ,and i love to see what they are doing to their fieros.........
Just appreciate somones excitement about their fiero,and if you dont like it, Have a Coke and a Smile and shut up!
Full tubular suspension! Fully adjustable coilovers front and rear! Poly everything! 3.4L TWIN DUAL CAM V6 240+H.P. Heads p/p! underdrive pulley! Darth chip! Accell performance ignition! Borla exhaust (how sweet)! Strut tower brace Now who ever said that a V6 can be fast????????
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
I find it very annoying when people post in the mall section. I have (insert fiero part here) for sale on ebay. Here's the link. Come on. Why don't you offer it for sale to forum members first before going ebay? It's like we aren't worthy to buy their stuff, but yet they post to advertise the auction.
Good point! I understand that those who do that are trying to appeal to a larger market and are just giving us heads up.
I think the thing that bothers me the most about the whole thing is that a member marketing their merchandise on the PFF forum can't make a link to PFF on their ebay page! (at least none that I've seen so far) I'd like to see more feedback to members posting in the Mall about their ebay sale to post a PFF link. Being here is a free and invaluable privalege, I think that we should acknowledge the great effort and contributions of Cliff and the many members here.
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YELLOWFIERO88 Member
Posts: 1329 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Registered: Nov 2004
Originally posted by Boondawg: Not a thing. It iz what it iz. 10,991 regiztered uzerz, all ztroking their egoz, in one way or another. Entering AND exiting thoze worldz takez one finger and iz one click away! If don't like what I'm reading, I ztop reading. I'll take free will over forced will, anyday.
I don't like S's. They get on my nervez. Zo I want everyone to ztop using them.
Zee what I mean.............
Sultry Sally sold seashells by the seashore sometimes on sundays with her sister Sarah, said silly Stacey as she strolled by the seashore looking for seashell last saturday. She also said that some silly souls (refering to someone named Boondawg- which she also thought was silly sounding) sometimes need the satisfaction of saying things so that others are simply amused. Sometimes she makes a good point. Anyway, back to the story about something that hapened to silly Stacey as she sauntered slowly by the seashore last saturday... Sometime later on that sunny saturday, Sultry Sally and her sisiter Sarah joined silly Stacey as she strolled by the seashore looking for seashells and said to silly Stacey "Stop looking for sea shells by the seashore, it's not good for my business!" Sarah, who supported what her sultry sister Sally said, took a handful of seashells and started shoving them into silly Stacey's shirt, saying "Take these you stupid so and so and stay away from our seashore." This made silly Stacey sad. Silly Stacey stopped looking for seashells on the seashore and started working in a strip club where she sold her soul, simply to make enough money to send her not so sharp son to college. So, the moral of this story is: stop and think about what you say, because sometimes these things have consequences, as we saw with silly Stacey.
The End.
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Oh, and another thing is generic user names. People, we have enough 88Formula, 88 Formula, 88 formula, formula88 formula 88, Formula 88, etc. When registering, please take a second and be a little creative. And if you do pick a generic name, don't get all bent out of shape thinking that people have it out for you, no one knows who you are or they think you're someone else. And whose fault is that?
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Posts: 424 From: denton, texas, usa Registered: Sep 1999
I find it very annoying when people post in the mall section. I have (insert fiero part here) for sale on ebay. Here's the link. Come on. Why don't you offer it for sale to forum members first before going ebay? It's like we aren't worthy to buy their stuff, but yet they post to advertise the auction.
If you want to sell something for peanuts, offer it for sale on this forum. If you want to get a reasonable price for it, sell it on ebay or elsewhere. Many of the users on this site could pinch Lincoln's head right off a penny.
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11:00 AM
Fiero5 Member
Posts: 8882 From: Arecibo, PR Registered: Jun 2000
There are members on here that have so many posts that i cant count... (let me try) Madcurl Jscott Kento DarthFiero Exotic Rida(i have one now about my rims) Malacite spddy fieromadman Miss-Tress007 Tina
Am i annoyed by them????? NO NOT AT ALL ,and i love to see what they are doing to their fieros.........
Just appreciate somones excitement about their fiero,and if you dont like it, Have a Coke and a Smile and shut up!
Geeze, I was surprised to not see my name on that list Unless it is because you don't like what we are doing?
Seriously though, I like 99% of the threads I get to read. I don't read every thread as I just don't have that much free time usualy. Then of course there are those who seem to click on almost if not every single one of them, and of course have to make a comment in almost every single one them too. And whoever said above that it seems that some of the same people say the same things over and over, like "it needs to be lowered" is right. I don't mind seeing the same over and over like "welcome to the forum", "Nice Fiero", "good job", "Nice paint job", "please post pics", etc, but saying negative things over and over like it needs bigger rims, needs to be lowered, needs a different wing, looks rice, etc, etc really can get annoying. I realize that it is your opinion, but please remember that it is only "your" opinion and not everyones. Speaking of that, I also don't like it when someone types something and states it in a way where they come across sounding like they are speaking for everyone on the forum. I think some actually think they are. Well no, I am sorry but please get a clue because you are not speaking for everyone. Also, it has been said to death on here many times before but if you don't like a particular member, or don't like a particular Fiero, don't like the subject, don't like lime green, yellow dots, black stripes, notchbacks, fastbacks, decals, seat covers or whatever then just don't click reply.... or even better yet, don't even click on the thread to begin with. There are those that post a reply that as soon as you see the user name you can allready guess what their post is probably going to say. It is obvious to many that they just shouldn't have even clicked on the thread to begin with, and yet there they are..again. However, if somewhere in your thread it says: "Tell me what you think", then don't whine about the comments when you get them. Of course those who then want to let them know what they think also need to remember Cliff's rule on that when giving their opinion:
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Keep it civilized! It's ok to disagree with someone. Really, it is. But it's not ok to call someone a "toad licking monkey waxer" just because he disagrees. It'll make you actually look like one. Name-calling will most likely get you a bad rating. At the very least, it will cause the thread to end up in the Trash Can, and at its very worst it will get you banned.
I mean really, how tough is that to follow?
Lastly, I didn't spell check this. Sorry
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11:12 AM
ditch Member
Posts: 3780 From: Brookston, IN Registered: Mar 2003
The mall section is the only place that can frustrate me sometimes.
Quite often, someone posts something for sale but doesn't give enough details. When a potential buyer posts specific questions in the thread concerning the part for sale, the seller responds back "PM sent". I ask..why so secretive?
The question was asked PUBLICLY, the sale is PUBLIC, so answer PUBLICLY.
I have passed on several parts I was interrested in because of this type of thing. It seems too fishy for me.
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11:59 AM
cliffw Member
Posts: 36713 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: Even more amusing, is when you try to assist by posting some thought-out and (hopefully) reasonably intuitive insight, and the masses ignore what you have posted, and plagerizes it in segments further on, as if it was their idea in the 1st place!! Very flattering, actually...I must have made SOME sense!!!! !!!!
Like this one:
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Originally posted by fierofetish: Even funnier, is when you try to help by posting some thought-out and (hopefully) reasonably sound advice, and everybody ignores what you have posted, and reposts it in segments later on ,as if it was their idea in the first place !! Very flattering, actually...I must have made SOME sense!!!! !!!! fierofetish
Made 22 posts before yours ?
EDIT I was the third person to catch it. Some threads are too long to read all posts first then reply, but I should have.
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Originally posted by pollock: If you want to sell something for peanuts, offer it for sale on this forum. If you want to get a reasonable price for it, sell it on ebay or elsewhere. Many of the users on this site could pinch Lincoln's head right off a penny.
Tha's half the definition of a Fiero owner... squeek, squeek, squeek, squeek, squeek, squeek....
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Will Member
Posts: 14249 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
I saw a Fiero today! Going up Interstate 69 in the U.P. Of Mi today at 3:30 am, was it you? I hate that.
I agree. These are the most lame threads of all.
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
I saw a Fiero today! Going up Interstate 69 in the U.P. Of Mi today at 3:30 am, was it you? I hate that.
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I agree. These are the most lame threads of all.
That was me!
Sorry :P Those are the ones that annoy me the most too. How insane is it to think every fiero owner out there is a member here? That would mean that roughly 10,000 of all fieros made are still on the road! *gasp* Let's be glad that isn't true and just reminisce about the 84 notchback that passed you on the freeway going MACH 3 with soo much bass bumping that it effected your power steering upgrade. Btw, that was me too haha.
PS: What about big sig pics like mine? Should I get someone to draft me up a shifty looking banner sig?
I loathe the multplie thread poster person that has to include a sig after EVERY reply. Every reply. It drains my lifeforce. I love what the guy says.... good stuff... but I can't stand to sift through it anymore. So I don't look.
I am also out and the bikini girl PS'd with the Fiero sig. All it takes is one upset person at work or some bored soul in corporate security enforcment to find that offensive and you could have a sexual harassment career ender. The bouncing Pontiac/Fiero Anime girl sig? Same thing. I know, I know it's not even real... but if that was a .gif of a dude with his junk bouncing up and down you can bet someone in the workforce would find that offensive too.
as a small aside... I saw (read) a few of ya'll knock the MissTress for posting pics of products and gas prices and what not. It is true her enthusiasm is quite exuberant, and makes me jealous that I am not near as motivated... but one of her product pics could have saved her a major headache. When she bought the Bar's Leak, and several were able to warn her away from that band aid. So it is okay, ya know? I mean, if she posted the pic of some oil and it is said 0W-50... you'd want to stop her, right? Tress, if you read this, I like your style. Makes me feel like I'm there with your cast of neighbors helping out on a balmy New Awlins night.
But I do see how Fiero5 could be sensitive to over picture posting double standards after half of us jumped him for posting pic's of Jordon's green car. I guess that's the world we live in, eh Steve?
-edit- for spelling.... had to go to dictionary.com --AND-- I misphrased my first gripe. I apologize and did not mean to imply I "loathed" Mr. gsxrbobby... quite the opposite, I mean I loathe the sig (err, repeated sig) and sorry that it came off looking like a personal attack. Heck, who can loathe a guy with a N* & big brakes! Sorry, Mr. Bobby.
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And for me, its the people who reply to some of the posts in the mall.....
EXAMPLE: For Sale..87GT ..$1800
Now comes the annoying part... WOW...$1800...I want to but it my mom won't give me the money. WOW..$1800...I got my mint 88 and only paid $1500 WOW..$1800...You can get the identical one on ebay right now for $1750 WOW..$1800...Wish I would have known two months ago.
WOW...SHUT THE H*LL UP...He is trying to sell his car!!! He doesn't care...honestly...who can't afford it or how much you paid for yours. This is HIS car and he wants to hear from people who are actually interested in buying it.
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agrabo85fiero Member
Posts: 562 From: Gilbertsville, New York/FT Riley Kansas Registered: Mar 2005
this one was a waste of time and energy to read "My Fiero Is Going........( Better Car Acquired )". I also dont like it when people are trying to sell there car and dont post pictures because there idea of very good condition could be totaly differant than mine.
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09:09 PM
JohnF Member
Posts: 2622 From: Redeye's Ride is from D/FW, Tx. Registered: Jul 2001
OMG! I am reading along and hit a thread that BOILS MY BLOOD! I heartily agree with previous posts that misspelled/misused words and grammatical phrases (with posters whose first language is English) is unforgiveable! Everyone please remember that many readers/posters on this board are not first language English and we should not only not confuse them but we should endeavor (endeavour is o.k. here, too) to not look STUPID to the remainder of the readers here (hear).
Their/there/they're, know/no, to/too/two, then/than, your/you're, want/wont, very/vary and many other words all have specific uses and misusing them does not exhibit typos - it exhibits STUPIDITY. Almost no one on this forum has had less than 11 years of formal education. There (their) is NO EXCUSE for anyone on this board to post such blatant ignorance for all the world to see what our educational system is turning out.
DON"T PROVE YOUR STUPIDITY on this forum. If you can't use proper grammar and spelling - don't post! Look up the words/phrases you don't know or go somewhere else! (maybe the ricers wont know the difference).
Oxford (Queen's) English or American English is all very acceptable and no one should try to change from one to another. Readers are able to accept either as being "correct".
That's my rant. Please forgive typos but there is no excuse for misusing the English language here. Don't bother pointing out any of my typos, it only shows my fingers are confused - not my brain.
I mean, dang, who really cares about seeing a pic of every bolt and nut removed and every thought posted that an individual has about a Fiero.
Solution: Don’t click on it...saves me the hassle of trying to sift through the BS in hopes of trying to glean some useful information, to which there is none, and it saves Cliff the bandwidth cost. ( Trying to do my part! )
--Allen
I guess this Forum is FOR the people who don't know, BY the people who do...so when a new Member tries to start the journey from novice to"good job under the belt"..is it fair to knock it?I am willing to bet that, there are people now, and in the future, who will be grateful for the step by step processes shown. They are very well described, very few typos/spelling mistakes, first class photos to illustrate.. So why, as one of the longer/standing Members here, do you chose to knock the very commendable efforts involved? Without this sort of contribution, the Forum would be a very dull place....I wonder how many times you have actually gone back and read subsequent posts in the "Diary threads"!! Now, if "fierofreddy" should come along in a week's time, and start running the same sort of thread, there is justification for a firm but gentle rebuff!! Sometimes, these things become cyclical, after a few years.Members change,people don't use the search facility, and the same subject comes up again and again. I just don't click on it, unless it seems to be lasting longer than the usual thread, and so I will check it out. What I find annoying?!! Never/ending threads about 4.9/3.8/3.4/3.1 engines..which is the best gearbox/axle//blah blah blah..and how fast will it go...Jealous? YES!!! We can't do that here in Spain, so it rankles!!!!!!! but in reality, the v6 is fast enough to bring a smile to anybody's lips!! fierofetish
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007 Member
Posts: 162 From: Between The ATL and Augusta in a land of deer and cows Registered: Oct 2002
Keep it civilized! It's ok to disagree with someone. Really, it is. But it's not ok to call someone a "toad licking monkey waxer" just because he disagrees. It'll make you actually look like one. Name-calling will most likely get you a bad rating. At the very least, it will cause the thread to end up in the Trash Can, and at its very worst it will get you banned.
This post itself is a violation of Cliff’s rule or let’s say the “spirit” of those rules. The SOLE purpose of it is to be negative. To put down. Now some of us have poked fun at ourselves and each other, some have been general observations, while others have taken direct shots at individuals......only thing is they left out the names.
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"The Diary Threads"
I mean, dang, who really cares about seeing a pic of every bolt and nut removed and every thought posted that an individual has about a Fiero.
Solution: Don’t click on it...saves me the hassle of trying to sift through the BS in hopes of trying to glean some useful information, to which there is none, and it saves Cliff the bandwidth cost. ( Trying to do my part! )
--Allen
Who are you talking about Mr. MCAANDA? Let me take a guess? Miss-tress007? Also known as my BEST friend and oh yeah….MY WIFE!!! You have insulted her and as a result have insulted me. But before I continue I must agree with some of your statements again as I stated before…..
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Interesting question. There are many things in life as in Pennock's that any one of us may find annoying-----and we have the right to be annoyed by anything we choose. As Pennock's goes some of the things you guys have listed as annoying are funny-you-have-to-be-on-Pennock's-to-understand-funny (something we all get a laugh at, even the "violators"), while others are people who by sharing moments in their lives have some way annoyed you. These people who may have taken considerable time and effort to share with our Fiero community in the best way they can have nonetheless, annoyed you. However, although they may have annoyed you, even if they did not intend to (and again it is your right to be annoyed by anything at all) they have not insulted you. Attacking someone's efforts, by most standards, would be considered insulting. It is OK to be annoyed, but we don't have to insult others while expressing it......especially to a person who has not and has no intention of insulting you. Just something to thing about.
You are correct, Mr MCAANDA……if you don’t like it….AVOID it!!!! Don’t click it, don’t read it and then you will NOT be annoyed by the person who unfortunately does not intend to annoy you, but nonetheless is annoying the crap outta you. The funny thing is….
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Anybody else have trouble reading the quote 5 posts up? That is another thing that bothers me. Blue letters on Blue background.
Your blue lettering IS something that could be considered annoying but we CANNOT avoid it because we never know where you will be posting!!!! Don’t like the “Diary” threads, don’t read it. However if we are annoyed by your blue type, we cannot avoid what annoys us about you sir. Some would call that hypocrisy. Are you a hypocrite sir? Know why I ask? You may not remember but after my wife finally spoke up and put some extremely rude and negative comments to rest (you know the whole she ain’t real BS) EVERYONE else basically chilled out, instead AFTER she posted her one and ONLY reply to the BS and others posted POSITIVE comments, you posted this……
Damn, you call her an attention seeker and you are the ONLY one on this forum who post in BLUE!!!! Guess that makes YOU the….
Where is that ATTENTION WHORE pic when you need it?
Thus, it could be said sir your actions are hypocritical. Another thing…do you have any idea if she has made donations to Cliff and how much? Did you know she is currently working on something (on her own time) that would benefit the entire Fiero community if she is able to pull it off? No you don’t. Well, let me get to my main point. My wife in no way meant to annoy or INSULT anyone. I think a person who with absolutely no car knowledge at all does all that she has done (alternator, water pump, starter, head gasket, EGR, plugs, wires, charged AC, brakes,….) and then attempts to document--- painstakingly document what she has done……………you call her hard work BS? That IS AN INSULT. What else would you call it? Now if you have taken a moment to read her latest post………
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Part of the reason that I chronicle everything in "The Hottie" Diaries the way I do is to try to give back to the community through providing a bit of entertainment with my posts and also to try to detail the steps I've gone through in making some repairs to the car. As much as I've been helped by people on the forum who've patiently answered all of my stupid questions--I wanted to provide a resource of sorts for others who may be a bit intimidated by the prospect of doing any repairs to these little cars themselves. When I first started, I didn't know a thing about cars, but after having the help and support of people on PFF, I've torn apart an engine and reassembled it and have gotten my car on the road without having to spend a fortune.
It's kind of hard to adequately portray your appreciation to someone over the internet with just written words and have it come across as sincerely as it would if you were talking to the person face-to-face, but just take this as my wholehearted attempt at trying to say "Thanks" to all of you for all your help and encouragement. Like I said before, you guys are the best!
Okay--group hug and mushy-stuff over with--we now return you to your regularly-scheduled "The Hottie" Diary Episode---Now, back to the story! LOL
You see instead of putting her efforts down, you should at least tickled pink if not proud as should all of Pennocks for she is a child of this Forum. She has received comments that her hard work and efforts have motivated and have been inspirational. It is totally the other way around in her mind. If not for ALL of you…..she would not have a Fiero on the road…PERIOD!!!!!!! She is someone who YOU GUYS have taken under the wing and schooled on how to restore these cars we ALL LOVE. A car that keeps getting bashed by the uniformed. A car we all are excited to see when another is saved. A pat on the back rather than a kick in the pants would have been nice.
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as a small aside... I saw (read) a few of ya'll knock the MissTress for posting pics of products and gas prices and what not. It is true her enthusiasm is quite exuberant, and makes me jealous that I am not near as motivated... but one of her product pics could have saved her a major headache. When she bought the Bar's Leak, and several were able to warn her away from that band aid. So it is okay, ya know? I mean, if she posted the pic of some oil and it is said 0W-50... you'd want to stop her, right? Tress, if you read this, I like your style. Makes me feel like I'm there with your cast of neighbors helping out on a balmy New Awlins night.
Many people have helped her directly, she takes these pics to show how she is doing what she is doing and they critique them. You practically insult these people as well (respected members of this Forum) as they have taken time outta THIER LIVES to assist her. You think these people have nothing better to do? The least she could do is take the time and show her work. In addition to that, the detailed pics she has posted regarding her brakes may have saved her or someone else from serious harm. Her safety is BS? Would you feel that way if it were your wife?
You didn’t think your comment was a big deal did you? Maybe you find her an easy target. Just typed the words and clicked send. Probably because this is the internet and it isn’t “real” to you. You didn’t stop to consider you were insulting a real person. It wasn’t personal. Well let’s make it personal and maybe you’ll understand. Allow me to make it “real” for you.
You don’t look like a bad guy. You don’t look very threatening, like a tough guy or a bully. You look like the kinda dude that is fun, lively and full of love for your friends and family. You obviously are a family guy anytime you create your screen-name after your family
How big of a jerk would I be to make some insulting comment about your wife? How would you feel? She never did anything to me. You have insulted me (I know you did not mean it) yet there is still no reason for me to insult your wife. I am sure she is a wonderful person, just as you are Mr. McKenna. You are probably ticked off that I put that picture up there, aren’t you? It is a picture you posted to SHARE with our Fiero community. Do you expect personal insult as a result? Did you do anything wrong? NO……but how would you feel if I made an inconsiderate butt-hole comment like you did? I think you would feel like me.
Now I must say I let it slide the first time (ALL EYES ON ME pic) and in time came to think that you were an ok guy, especially considering you recently responded in one of Miss-Tress007’s thread
Very personable and nice. Respectful. THAT is who I believe you are. Looking at your picture I REALLY DOUBT that if we were at West Fest 2005 you would step up to my wife especially in front of me and call her an attention whore or say her post and hard work are BS. At Daytona we ran into someone who posted this on my wife’s birthday. She posted a today is my birthday, gonna have some fun in the OT section. Repeat--- OT section. This is what she saw
Totally uncalled for. What did she do? She never did anything to this person or anyone else on this Forum. Well, in Daytona we met this guy and his friend, introduced ourselves and I could see the surprise (as we saw all day long when people actually met her). Maybe he remembered the post……never expected to meet face to face right? We treated him with nothing but respect. He did the same to us. He and his friend are super cool and funny guys. We joked and laughed with them, no mention of that post and got along like decent human beings should. It was an honor and privilege to meet them. This could have been a totally different story. The internet could have become VERY "real". A lot of bad, bad things happen for a lot less. There are some truly crazy people out there who have no regard for themselves and absolutely none for you. However nothing bad happened here. We asked if they wanted to come along with the rest of our newly acquired Fiero friends to get something to eat. No problema. No drama.That is not the kinda people we are. We have no enemies, we will do anything for anyone. But we do speak up, we do fight back. Please don’t cut us when we have done nothing to you.
My wife comes from an interesting family. They are extremely resourceful, relatively well connected, passionate and proactive. Her family ranges from straight up street thugs to high powered/political and have a tendency to overreact when harm is brought to their family….in particular my wife. Why? Because she is a wonderful human being. Very talented, very pretty but a MUCH better person on the inside. I am certain you are a good human being as well sir. We have a tendency to feel we are hidden behind these keyboards, we are just a blip on a screen and the people we interact with are not real. They are real.
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.....So, the moral of this story is: stop and think about what you say, because sometimes these things have consequences,.....
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divilspawn Member
Posts: 103 From: mission viejo, Ca USA Registered: Apr 2005
and just to stay on topic being new there really aren't any posts that annoy me but that could have something to do with being "too" layed back ([unecessary appology]and sorry if thats the wrong form of lay but even though english is my first language I am more than willing to admit i failed it twice and when I did finally pass it was with a D which is failing in most other countries anyways [/unecessary appology])
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10:44 PM
F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
007, First I'd like to say that what you wrote was very well thought out and made an excellent point. I have seen that photo before but couldn't remember where or to whom it refered. Now that I realize that it was meant for your wife, I am appalled. I post some redical things on here from time to time (just look at my bar) but this photo goes too far. I really appreciate what your wife does, her appreciation and determination to take a car that obviously was not well taken care of and spends a great deal of time to learn and share with us her accomplishments. I'd like to thank both of you for being a part of this forum and my life (my life=PFF forum=members=my life) and I know that there are people out there who might not want to admit that they learned something from the work she does or even better, are inspired to take on a project themselves. Thank both of you for your contributions and we look forward to seeing a picture of both of you soon! j/k
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As I can see that there was a large amount of time and effort that went into the reply that you made, I only feel that the same should be reciprocated. And for “kicks and giggles” this time I will avoid my usual “style” of post, to which I can attest will be addressed here shortly.
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Originally posted by 007: Who are you talking about Mr. MCAANDA? Let me take a guess? Miss-tress007? Also known as my BEST friend and oh yeah….MY WIFE!!! You have insulted her and as a result have insulted me. But before I continue I must agree with some of your statements again as I stated before…..
Yes, your guess was correct, as I was referring to the Miss-Tress007 threads to which seem to have popped up numerous times since the date that she joined PFF. While I think that the idea of the “diaries” are a good idea, as per what is usually posted such as “build this w/ me, another build…which are sufficient, but again used often enough that the thought of a “diary,” I thought was ingenuous – in title only. It’s the “substance” to which I thought was sub-par, and “excessively” excessive on pictures of the local “quickie mart,” and every side shot of a wheel well to which I thought was a waste of time IMO. Again, like you stated, people are allowed to have their opinion, and again this is mine. If it happens to differ from yours, there exists a possibility to discuss, learn, and if no mutually agreeable conclusion can be came to, an agreement not to agree is the best that can be had in such situations.
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Originally posted by 007: Your blue lettering IS something that could be considered annoying but we CANNOT avoid it because we never know where you will be posting!!!! Thus, it could be said sir your actions are hypocritical.
I had never thought about the fact that using the color that I normally use while posting here on PFF could be construed as a cry for attention, but I can see from the statements in your post that this ”could” actually be seen as a cry out for attention. Let me please be the first to state that this is not the case, and the reason that I use the color code “00BFFF” is simply because I happen to like the color itself. Blue is the color of my children’s eyes, the sky when it’s clear, and the font when I post here on PFF. I can assure you that there is nothing more than this, psychoanalyze it all that you desire, the facts have been laid out and the issue should be rested.
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Originally posted by 007: Damn, you call her an attention seeker and you are the ONLY one on this forum who post in BLUE!!!! Guess that makes YOU the…. Where is that ATTENTION WHORE pic when you need it?
On the topic of attention whore, I will turn your attention back to your own household sir. I have had conversations with members of PFF that have actually met you and your wife, to which they have made mention that you two seem to be very nice people that seem to have your heads on straight.
With that being said, I again will turn directly to your wife, to whom I state that I personally know nothing about more than that to which has been stated above, but I will say this. I’m sure that you two are normal everyday people, I'm sure that you have common sense, and intuition about life and the “on-goings” to which happen here on the internet. But to come to a site, with a population that consists of more than 98.734% males, with a repulsive screen name as “Miss-Tress007” and expect not to catch every leg thumper from one side of the globe to the other, you are either sadly misguided or ignorant.
Your wife sir, IMO again, has got to be the largest, how did you put it again…ATTENTION WHORE that PFF has seen since the last wave of those that were kicked off PFF and went off to join the “Anti-forum.” To come to a site with such a name, purchase a Fiero and attach a name such as the “Hottie” and not expect again the attention – positive or negative, is preposterous. I’d be more than happy to indulge in your request for the AW pic request, but I too like you think that it is in severely bad taste, and am more than happy to refrain from such actions.
Hello Kettle my name is Pot – Your black. Geez…
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Originally posted by 007: You see instead of putting her efforts down, you should at least tickled pink if not proud as should all of Pennocks for she is a child of this Forum. She has received comments that her hard work and efforts have motivated and have been inspirational. It is totally the other way around in her mind. If not for ALL of you…..she would not have a Fiero on the road…PERIOD!!!!!!! She is someone who YOU GUYS have taken under the wing and schooled on how to restore these cars we ALL LOVE. A car that keeps getting bashed by the uniformed. A car we all are excited to see when another is saved. A pat on the back rather than a kick in the pants would have been nice.
Yes, I agree that we are seen by society as the “Red Headed Step Child of PONTIAC” that will not go away, and IMO Fieros should be repaired, and renovated so that they are able to once again run the open highway. To this we are in agreement. Yet; If you are offended at the fact that I made the comment I dislike the thread that your wife started, you really need to sit back and realize that with the posting of anything online, and in life for that matter, it is open to criticism. Being that she was offended, I really wish that I felt sorry for her that she feels that way, but honesty is what was said, and I refuse to apologize for the way that I feel about any topic that I make comment on. Yes, I'm sure that there is a “tactfulness” that can be applied when I make comments, but the underlying opinion still stands. You can’t win 1oo% of the time. Sometimes you hit a grand slam, others you’re sent to the bench to ride the pine, as it’s just not your day.
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Originally posted by 007: Many people have helped her directly, she takes these pics to show how she is doing what she is doing and they critique them. You practically insult these people as well (respected members of this Forum) as they have taken time outta THIER LIVES to assist her. You think these people have nothing better to do? [QUOTE]
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How big of a jerk would I be to make some insulting comment about your wife?
As for the comments about the thread, no I did not think that it was a big deal, as this again is what IMO, I dislike. See, the thing is, that you know nothing about me, the context of my personality, or my ideals. I will state, & you can ask anybody that knows me personally, that I am straightforward, brash, and usually very opinionated and to the point when engaged in conversations. Fun loving and lively I’d like to think that I am, and no, I'm not upset that you posted the picture of my wife and I w/ Rick and Jen @ West Fest 2oo4. I am well aware of that to which goes on, on the internet, and I was actually the one that posted that picture up in the West Fest thread shortly after the trip. It’s a good picture, I hadn’t seen that one in a while, so yes, it’s good to see that again. That photo brings back fond memories of the trip.
As for the statements about my wife, or even bringing her up in this context is tasteless. She does not post on PFF, and therefore she, and the such, are and should be “out of bounds.” If she had posted here, created topics that were to be talked about, then and only then should that to which she stated can be evaluated and then critiqued. Making statements based on a picture would be like me making derogatory statements about your cat / dog simply because I had access to a picture that I was able to post on an internet forum.
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Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: .....So, the moral of this story is: stop and think about what you say, because sometimes these things have consequences,..... The End.
I agree with this post, and in its own place these could be considered words to live by. But the thing is, that today, there are those that want to make sure that we all live in this “happy place.” If your opinion is not one that is in line with the one that I just stated, there is no place for it. I whole heartily fundamentally disagree with that premise. Opinions are what define us, they are what make you “you” and me “me.”
Do not fear your opinion; only fear those that want your opinion to be as theirs. If you stand fast to that to which you believe, and say what you feel, hearts will be broken; it’s inevitable. Yet rest assured that when you lay your head down at the end of the day, you are what you say that you are; you are your word.
With the reply that I made, I had no intentional intentions of offending you or your wife. I was making a statement that I didn’t like the things that were posted in the “diaries” thread. If you took acceptation to that to which I said, that happens to be the case. I refuse to apologize for the fact that I feel the way that I do, but I can agree that there might have been a little more “tact” and explanation to why I didn’t like the thread. I'm sure that you and your wife are nice people, but I think that you really need to realize that not everybody here will agree with that to which you post and say. I happen to be one of ‘em. It’s a fact of life, it’s the way that things go sometimes.
I don't dislike you or your wife as a person / couple / Fiero owners, as I do not know you. If you were here in CA, and I met you, realized that you were who you are on the board, you are correct in stating that I would not make mention of this or other threads. But if in conversation the topic did arise, I would make comment that there is a dislike of said material. Not all of us in the world are members of the “feel good brigade” and have no issues saying it as it is…
I'm sure that I missed a few things, but it’s well after midnight and fast approaching 1 AM. If you would like to further this conversation, please feel free to hit the PM / E-mail button and we can discuss it further.
--Allen
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RossT Member
Posts: 3038 From: Bismarck, North Dakota Registered: May 99
I personally like the diaries threads. I viewed them as someone new to fieros really getting into the hobby. Without new blood entering our hobby, it will slowly die. I also liked the numerous pics of everything. It really helps those of us that don't have the in depth mechanical knowledge that many on the form have.
I think the diaries were well thought out and interesting reading. THANKS!
What bothers me the most is that when the starter of thread in the tech section, doesn't post if the replies helped or not. Completing a thread really helps people who search the archives.
Now, as someone else said, "just can't we all get along"!
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05:32 AM
css9450 Member
Posts: 5487 From: Glen Ellyn, Illinois, USA Registered: Nov 2002
PPL who list on ebay then come here to tell us Shoot list it here first.
I agree; we're all friends here so why not give us a crack at it before listing it on ebay. With my luck the auctions for the parts I need end at 1PM while I'm at work so I never get a chance most times.
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binarycode Member
Posts: 250 From: McConnellsburg, Pennsylvania Registered: Feb 2005
People who quote people quoting others is really annoying. Apparently if we've made it to your post we've already read the post you're quoting... Perhaps it would be better to quote like this?
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Originally posted by mcaanda:
As I can see that there was a large amount of time and effort that went into the reply that you made, I only feel that the same should be reciprocated. And for “kicks and giggles” this time I will avoid my usual “style” of post, to which I can attest will be addressed here shortly.
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I'm sure that I missed a few things, but it’s well after midnight and fast approaching 1 AM. If you would like to further this conversation, please feel free to hit the PM / E-mail button and we can discuss it further.
--Allen
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07:24 AM
007 Member
Posts: 162 From: Between The ATL and Augusta in a land of deer and cows Registered: Oct 2002
Know what? I like and agree with almost everything you say. Nothing to do with this Forum or really the subject. More about life. To sum it up, I'll use your words.
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Originally posted by mcaanda:
I agree with this post, and in its own place these could be considered words to live by. But the thing is, that today, there are those that want to make sure that we all live in this “happy place.” If your opinion is not one that is in line with the one that I just stated, there is no place for it. I whole heartily fundamentally disagree with that premise. Opinions are what define us, they are what make you “you” and me “me.”
Do not fear your opinion; only fear those that want your opinion to be as theirs. If you stand fast to that to which you believe, and say what you feel, hearts will be broken; it’s inevitable. Yet rest assured that when you lay your head down at the end of the day, you are what you say that you are; you are your word.
With the reply that I made, I had no intentional intentions of offending you or your wife. I was making a statement that I didn’t like the things that were posted in the “diaries” thread. If you took acceptation to that to which I said, that happens to be the case. I refuse to apologize for the fact that I feel the way that I do, but I can agree that there might have been a little more “tact” and explanation to why I didn’t like the thread. I'm sure that you and your wife are nice people, but I think that you really need to realize that not everybody here will agree with that to which you post and say. I happen to be one of ‘em. It’s a fact of life, it’s the way that things go sometimes.
--Allen
You know what, you shouldn't apologize for how you feel. You do realize that you have offended. You realize you either could have said nothing or simply found a better way to express it. The natural thing to do would be to apologize for offending. But instead did I hear you call my wife a whore? nI am not going to comment on the name Miss-Tress007 or the car being the "Hottie" I don't feel like going into it. But with all the words of true wisdom, espressing you have nothing against us, understand we are nice people, you STILL call my wife a whore? You STILL insult? You called my wife a WHORE?
he he 
JK
