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Caddy 4.9 Turbo in the making by Her86GT
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Report this Post11-06-2002 08:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post
Well I caught a spy pic of the turbo project PBJ is up to. Being that my car is the guinea pig, I have to keep a close eye on this one

All I'm allowed to comment on is: 5psi boost, knock sensor, water injected when under boost and a new Rockcrawl prom. Oh and a rebuilt 4t60 with a shift kit. I'm told that I might need wheelie bars


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So is that a 'spare' 4.9? Can't wait to try and dig the details outta Pete on this one

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Report this Post11-06-2002 09:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for x-thumpr-xSend a Private Message to x-thumpr-xDirect Link to This Post
Pete has way too much time on his hands. Becky, when you gonna give Pete time to buy and build up his own Fiero?

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Report this Post11-06-2002 09:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wiccantoySend a Private Message to wiccantoyDirect Link to This Post
why cant i be a guinea pig to nice projects like that oh well make sure to take alota pics looks nice. that should haul a$$

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Oh i hate being teased! Its like if you won a 5 million dollar lottery and you got a piece of a one dollar bill a day, would piss you off wouldnt it¿?

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Keep me posted on how that goes... and get him to give us intimate details of how it's set up. I was thinking about doing something similar after i'm out of college and have cash

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Originally posted by Toogy:

So is that a 'spare' 4.9? Can't wait to try and dig the details outta Pete on this one

That is my actual engine believe-it-or-not! Looks kinda dirty and lonely without the rest of the car to make it look good.

Well, I now call my engine the "Frankenstein". It's had all sorts of weird plumbing done to it. Soon, it won't be recognizable. . .Pete's not releasing any details until he's done the prototype and the car has it's first official test drive. But trust me, there will be pics when I can get 'em

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Pete has way too much time on his hands. Becky, when you gonna give Pete time to buy and build up his own Fiero?

Pete usually sells his cars whenever he wants money fast - having owned over 40 in the 9 years we've been married. Besides, we don't have any more room in the driveway with three cars and a boat. So I let him tinker with my car when he has a technical brainstorm (which usually happens after the boat is put away for the winter ).

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Report this Post11-06-2002 11:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stevenrossiSend a Private Message to stevenrossiDirect Link to This Post
When is the estamated finish date?
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Report this Post11-06-2002 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for soupClick Here to visit soup's HomePageSend a Private Message to soupDirect Link to This Post
OMG... I want a 4.9 sooo bad.
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Originally posted by stevenrossi:

When is the estamated finish date?

Three weeks.

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I just saw it in person and the THING looks SCARY!!!
It is gonna HAUL!

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whoa.. now I really can't wait for the first Grand Bend meet in the spring!!!

I'm especially interested in hearing about the water injection system.

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Report this Post11-11-2002 07:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post
Got some more pics of the progress.

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sorry double post

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Makes me wish I didnt sell my caddy fiero stuff.... looks great, cant wait to see it when its done!!

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Sweet, nice work. What's the gear ratio on the th440 your useing?

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Report this Post11-11-2002 08:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stevenrossiSend a Private Message to stevenrossiDirect Link to This Post
Becky...Pete!

As soon as your done make a thread with absolutley ALL of the info on it

~Which Turbo
~How it was done
~Estamated power (torque)
~How much $$$ (if you don't mind)

I am in AWE over that 4.9!

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Report this Post11-11-2002 08:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post
Here is the tranny all torn apart being rebuilt with new seals and a shift kit. The gears ratios are 3.33 final drive with 35/35 sprockets.

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Hmpf...

I'm guessing that the next video that we see will be you dragging two Fieros, with locked wheels, up the driveway.

Good show!

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Sweet,my th440 also has 3:33's no shift kit tho , It will still have better take off then the stock 3spd.

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Report this Post11-23-2002 04:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post
Got a new digital camera so I was able to get some more spy pics of my turbo-to-be. I haven't had a chance to adjust the setting on the camera but here they are:


Caught PBJ while he was working - and it's not my car! I guess you don't make money working on your own car

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Report this Post11-23-2002 04:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post

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Some more of the tranny. It's almost done finally!


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Report this Post11-23-2002 08:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Looks like a neat setup but if the stock 9:1 pistons are used then modest boost levels are adviseable.
Turbocharging the 4.9L is going into unknown territory. I don't believe that anyone on this forum knows how this engine will respond to boost. No doubt that it will produce more horsepower and faster acceleration so the question of whether or not this engine design is durable enough to provide long term reliability under boost will be answered shortly. Don't know of anyone who has programmed the Caddy ECM to work with a 2 BAR MAP and a turbo. I'm not certain that it can be done The Chevy 747 or 749 ECM might be a good choice.

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Dennis glad to see your advice but I have a 4.5 and a 4.9 that I have been working withover the last 8 months with very respectable durability after a lot of punishment.The 4.5 I am using a turbo from a 86 300ZX Nissan at 8lbs of boost and with out a problem all I did was to change the head gasket and replace the head bolts with ARP brands and torqued them at 10lbs more than stock I am using a Holley 500 cfm 2 barrel carb with the turbo going into a carb and so far it has stood up to my abuse.Many people consider the 4.5 and 4.9 engines as a softie but if properly modified you can have a strong running 2800 pound plastic car.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Don't know of anyone who has programmed the Caddy ECM to work with a 2 BAR MAP and a turbo. I'm not certain that it can be done The Chevy 747 or 749 ECM might be a good choice.


The car has never run with the Caddy ecm. It currently uses the 730 but PBJ and Rockcrawl together have rewired and promed it for a 749. Don't worry, there has been hours of thought put into this. But yes, the question is HOW WILL IT PERFORM. This is the unknown - but that's what makes this so much fun! ! !

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Report this Post11-25-2002 05:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post
Just some more pics I took today:

I put this sticker on for a bit of humour:

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friggin insane, i love it
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Report this Post11-25-2002 06:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stevenrossiSend a Private Message to stevenrossiDirect Link to This Post
That looks AWESOME

One day we'll have to get the Ontario 4.9's together somewhere at some point and compare random things

I'm sure yours will take the cake in all fields.

VERY NICE and that shift kit will be very useful with a 5psi boost on your 4.9L

Great work...give my best to Pete.

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Say goodbye to easy oil filter changes, eh? And you still gotta squeeze a downpipe in there! I can't wait to get that thing on the Dyno for tuning, and again in may for some HP runs.
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Holy.. that's amazing. Keep us informed! Right now I need to concentrate on getting the 4.9 IN my car and running..
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Oh, somebody better make a simple 4.9 turbo kit or heads are gonna roll

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Report this Post11-25-2002 07:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Her86GTClick Here to visit Her86GT's HomePageSend a Private Message to Her86GTDirect Link to This Post
I just felt like putting up two more pics:


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That fit is so tight i bet it could hole water

***is just jealous because he still has his 2.8***

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Originally posted by Her86GT:

That is my actual engine believe-it-or-not! Looks kinda dirty and lonely without the rest of the car to make it look good.

Well, I now call my engine the "Frankenstein". It's had all sorts of weird plumbing done to it. Soon, it won't be recognizable. . .Pete's not releasing any details until he's done the prototype and the car has it's first official test drive. But trust me, there will be pics when I can get 'em


Well it looks pretty done...so lets get a test drive a.s.a.p!

I believe i speak on behalf of all 6100 people on this forum when i say GIVE US SOME INFO

Lookin great...tell pete that i say he's doin an AWESOME job!

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Originally posted by stevenrossi:


Well it looks pretty done...so lets get a test drive a.s.a.p!

I believe i speak on behalf of all 6100 people on this forum when i say GIVE US SOME INFO

Lookin great...tell pete that i say he's doin an AWESOME job!


Well to be honest, it just got put in tonight. I'm actually posting this from the computer at his work (where his is still working on it). There is still a long way to go: rewiring the ecm into the car, coolant plumbing, exhaust, water injection system. . .the easy part is over. Getting it to run properly is the harder part. . .I mean the fun part

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I mean the fun part

FUN!? Just you wait. I remember how squeamish you were the first time that thing got held wide open on a dyno. You could barely watch without crying. I'll be doing that several times over! Wow, you're right, this is going to be fun!
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I love my new camera

The folder in the pic holds all the info on my car - to loose that would mean hours of research.

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Originally posted by rockcrawl:

Wow, you're right, this is going to be fun!

Okay. . I know I'll be freakin'...but at least I'm going to be there every second 'cause I don't want to miss a thing and yes, I'll probably cover my ears again

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