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Just another 3800 SC on the road ? Maybe, Maybe not. by PURPLE REIGN
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Page 3, Only 6 more to go to catch up with Skitime!

So, when are you going to get that thing back on the road? I mean how long has it been, almost 2 months? Or closer to 56 days or about 1350 hours ago.

You never did tell me if you got my package with the powder coating stuff.

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Originally posted by Fiero38SC:

Page 3, Only 6 more to go to catch up with Skitime!

So, when are you going to get that thing back on the road? I mean how long has it been, almost 2 months? Or closer to 56 days or about 1350 hours ago.

You never did tell me if you got my package with the powder coating stuff.

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I'm working on it..............but it's looking like Cryogenic Freezing will be one of the steps back together.

AND YES I DID TELL YOU I got your package......... https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/032358.html

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Sorry. Totally missed that one.
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Hey Shawn. . .

Aren't those Rotors a little small??? For some reason, I just have this feeling that someone could go bigger. . .

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Originally posted by Racingman24:

Hey Shawn. . .

Aren't those Rotors a little small??? For some reason, I just have this feeling that someone could go bigger. . .

Eric


Like most here on the forum will say "believe it when I see it".............I've already DONE it ..........so just BRING IT
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That is one nice car, I am looking to be on of the people to have a 3800 SC in my car to, so it will also look nice and go like a bat out of hell (or what I hear with a 3800 SC)
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Originally posted by sprite_68:

That is one nice car, I am looking to be on of the people to have a 3800 SC in my car to, so it will also look nice and go like a bat out of hell (or what I hear with a 3800 SC)

Thanks !!! I'm sure your's will go like a "bat out of hell" too...........maybe not a 10 second bat but a quick none the less

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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:


Like most here on the forum will say "believe it when I see it".............I've already DONE it ..........so just BRING IT


That sounds like some sort of challenge, maybe even with eight piston cal. . .o nooo, I've said too much. Now just to find a master cylinder that moves a whole bunch of fluid. hmmm

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Bump to keep this one going and ask Shaun a question or two.

1. Let me know when I can bring my GT up for the 3800. Also, it seems were are going to need a motor mount. Can you fab this? (I can leave it there for a while if needed). BTW, it is a good running 2.8 with some bolt on's so if anyone there is interested or you want it LMK.

2. Have you done anything else to this one currently?

Thanks! Look foward to seeing you and your shop.....and my Fiero with a 3800.

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I need to finish a 3.4 conversion, then I can put yours in. Yeh I can fab a mount or two, but I have no idea what to do with the A/C. Tony took the compressor & bracket.

Progress is finally being made on mine since the blow at the 20th, this time EVERYTHING is being done to make it bulletproof. Also other refinements to add to the power it should be ready for the W.O.W. in March.

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Originally posted by SLAMMED87GT:


BTW, it is a good running 2.8 with some bolt on's so if anyone there is interested or you want it LMK.


I might be interested. I don't know if I want to spend the time rebuilding a 4 banger for 4-500 when i could have a better motor for that. How much you want for it???

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Originally posted by Racingman24:

I might be interested. I don't know if I want to spend the time rebuilding a 4 banger for 4-500 when i could have a better motor for that. How much you want for it???

Eric

I'm not sure if we will be using any parts of it for the 3800- I bet we might end up using the AC if it fits, but will need a bracket. Also, it has a Cold Air Intake and MSD coil and pack. If we don't take anything off it than I say $300 is fair being it is a great running engine, has a starter and alternator less than a year old. Send me an email and we can work out details. Also, what about the dogbone? Plus you'll get the Darrel Morse Dogbone and some other stuff as it won't work with the new engine.

Thanks! And Shaun, let me know when to bring the GT up and we'll proceed from there! Good thing is I have the good wheels off and will be removing the front spoiler before bringing it up to ease the install for ya!

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Originally posted by SLAMMED87GT:

Thanks! And Shaun, let me know when to bring the GT up and we'll proceed from there! Good thing is I have the good wheels off and will be removing the front spoiler before bringing it up to ease the install for ya!

O.K. ...............and we wont be ablde to use the Fiero A/C. It will need a bracket & compressor from another 3800.

P.S. If Eric does't take the driveline I have someone here who's interested..............

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what kind of power are you getting out of that thing?
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what kind of power are you getting out of that thing?

We will soon find out but estimations from the builder are around 475hp to 525hp off the bottle

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so where exactly is your engine at right now? And why did it blow this time (you know, at the 20th..) i never did hear?? I like your car, do you think that i can have it when your done??
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the car looks beautiful,well done..btw what gearbox is in it..looks like you just about change radio stations when you choose a gear.
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the car looks beautiful,well done..btw what gearbox is in it..looks like you just about change radio stations when you choose a gear.

He has the the 4t65e, with a Quaif [sp] diff. and soon will have fully cryo treated internal parts

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Originally posted by fieromadman:

so where exactly is your engine at right now? And why did it blow this time (you know, at the 20th..) i never did hear?? I like your car, do you think that i can have it when your done??

He He yeah..........I'll just give it away when I'm done putting 20k & 2 years into it

Anyhow the engine is at the machine shop. The conclusion is that it blew due to lack of lubrication, either from the overheating & breakdown on the oil or beacause it cant hold enough oil. They only take 4.5 quarts, I'm now researching a "dry sump" system. We are going to heat treat the crank and use better rods. Then cryo-freeze everything. The trans parts have been frozen and is being built, "bulletproof" that is. My transmission builder has already spent $1200 at cost on the performance parts.

edited cause I still cant speel

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Keep at top.

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Originally posted by lowfierogt:

Keep at top.

Hey I saw you blew your high miler, what happened ???

I have this other supercharged motor here taken apart from Rob Bartlett, it just needs one cylinder resleeved.

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Hey I saw you blew your high miler, what happened ???

I have this other supercharged motor here taken apart from Rob Bartlett, it just needs one cylinder resleeved.

I think it has something to do with the custom exhaust we made... I will send you a pic of what we did. You can post it for me?

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Originally posted by lowfierogt:

I think it has something to do with the custom exhaust we made... I will send you a pic of what we did. You can post it for me?

Well if I can't, someone can. I'm having issues with installing PIP on the new computer.

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Here u go I got my PIP going.


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I wish I could do this kinda work to my car

props to a mad fiero.. one of my favs'!

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Why is it that I've neer seen this thread before! That is one incredible fiero. You've put a lot into it and it definitely shows... someone is a perfectionist lol. Keep posting up pictures and specs, I love it.

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Why is it that I've neer seen this thread before! That is one incredible fiero. You've put a lot into it and it definitely shows... someone is a perfectionist lol. Keep posting up pictures and specs, I love it.

Thanks DoubleC4..........I have a couple of these that I send a lot of time on. 3 of them will be at the Dells this year. I'm also planning on having the supercharged finished by March World of Wheels.
Yours looks like it's a high detail car too.


Tony I don't see how the exhaust would make any dramatic affect on the engine enough to make it blow. That same set-up was used on the N/A motor and worked fine. What did the motor actually do to fail ???

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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:

Thanks DoubleC4..........I have a couple of these that I send a lot of time on. 3 of them will be at the Dells this year. I'm also planning on having the supercharged finished by March World of Wheels.
Yours looks like it's a high detail car too.


Tony I don't see how the exhaust would make any dramatic affect on the engine enough to make it blow. That same set-up was used on the N/A motor and worked fine. What did the motor actually do to fail ???

All I really know is the manifold we blocked off got red hot then the one rod let go.

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All I really know is the manifold we blocked off got red hot then the one rod let go.

All I can say is "Holy Back Pressure Batman!". The outlet from that manifold you blocked off is normally 3".

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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:


Yours looks like it's a high detail car too.


Not in your league though lol, but I'm working on it. Thanks

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All I really know is the manifold we blocked off got red hot then the one rod let go.

Well.........theoretically the design of that set-up is virtually identical to my 90 Grand Prix 3.1 Intercooled Turbo. The flow isn't pinched off in any manor, it's just redirected to a collecter pipe that goes back around the the other pipe. It's set-up the SAME as this 3.1 Turbo.

If the ONE manifold glowed I would look to a stuck open injector, burnt or stuck exhaust valve, bad plug or wire, misfiring coil pack, or any other probable cause to unload or dump raw fuel into the exhaust.

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Although the MN boys probably don't remember me, I have seen PURPLE REIGN's Fiero in person at a mall meet last summer. It is one of the most impressive, highly modified cars that I have seen anywhere. I left there thinking my mostly stock Fiero was not all that great anymore. It was a little sad for me knowing the current state of restoration that my car is in, but I was in such awe of the cars there. Tina's car is another example of how awesome you can make one of these cars. I don't remember who's car it was, but there was a 4.9L N* that was also over the top. I believe that any of these would beat 99% of the newer cars made today.

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how about a clooged up muffler to cause the glowing manifold!

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Originally posted by RACE:

Although the MN boys probably don't remember me, I have seen PURPLE REIGN's Fiero in person at a mall meet last summer. It is one of the most impressive, highly modified cars that I have seen anywhere. I left there thinking my mostly stock Fiero was not all that great anymore. It was a little sad for me knowing the current state of restoration that my car is in, but I was in such awe of the cars there. Tina's car is another example of how awesome you can make one of these cars. I don't remember who's car it was, but there was a 4.9L N* that was also over the top. I believe that any of these would beat 99% of the newer cars made today.

THANK YOU very much, a + for ya just because it's really nice to hear great comments after such hard work, and appreciate the cincerity of what you have to say. You will see it again only better with more mod's. Believe it or not. Earlier in the thread there were pics of it COMPLETLY torn apart...................well it's in that state again. After a horrible body guy did it the first time its getting done the right way ( with a few extra mods ) and 2 engine's and 2 trannie's later, I'm selling stuff I never thought I'd sell to keep this project alive.

KEEP YOUR EYES OUT "RACE" I'LL BE THERE AGAIN, & WITH ONE OTHER CAR starting with the W.O.W. on march 13th


Hey Revin..............wouldnt BOTH manifolds glow then

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DOH !!!

I'm out ! back to the sweet car buildup !!

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Shawn, this spring you want to bottle feed my 2.8?
Can't be totally stock can it?? I want to be able to keep up with you a little on the ride down to wheat stock!!!
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Originally posted by Oslo:

Shawn, this spring you want to bottle feed my 2.8?
Can't be totally stock can it?? I want to be able to keep up with you a little on the ride down to wheat stock!!!

Yeah I can bottle feed your 2.8........................but even if you wanted to double your HP you still wouldnt even be able to smell my exhaust

I'll probably get flamed for this but calculating the #'s and comparing other "similar" Fiero's & weight etc, it should run a 10.5 with no N.O.S.

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